Re: Wichita Lineman / Jimmy Webb
Will Dockery
Wichita Lineman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU
> I am a lineman for the county.
> And I drive the mainroad.
> Lookin' in the sun for another overload.
>
> I hear you singing in the wire. Chorus 1
> I can hear you thru the whine.
> And the Wichita Lineman,
> is still on the line.
>
> I know I need a small vacation.
> But it don't look like rain.
> And if it snows that stretch down south,
> won't ever stand the strain.
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> And I need you more than want you. Chorus 2
> And I want you for all time.
> And the Wichita Lineman,
> is still on the line.
>
> -Jimmy Webb
Ah, must be a carry-over from the "Galveston" thread... another good
one, Chuck. Some Jimmy Webb info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Webb
"...[edit] The singer-songwriter years
Jimmy Webb's solo career got off to a rough start with the 1968
"counterfeit" solo album Jimmy Webb sings Jimmy Webb (Epic), which was
produced, according to Webb, "by a bunch of ruffians from some old
demos of mine and tarted up to sound like 'MacArthur Park.' It was
quite a piece of crap and was received with great anticipation and
crushing disappointment at the radio level."[11]
Beginning in 1970, Jimmy Webb recorded six original albums of his own
songs: Words and Music (1970), And So: On (1971), Letters (1972),
Land's End (1974), El Mirage (1977), and Angel Heart (1982). Despite
the critical reception that followed each of these projects, Webb
would never prove to be as successful a performer as he had been a
songwriter and arranger. Despite his limited singing ability, each
album was noted for its inventive music and memorable lyrics.[5]
Webb's debut album as a performer, Words and Music, was released in
late 1970 to critical acclaim. Rolling Stone writer Jon Landau called
"P.F. Sloan" a "masterpiece [that] could not be improved upon." The
tune and the lyrics were probably allusions to P. F. Sloan, who had
helped Webb early in Webb's career, although a dispute between them
later led Webb to insist that he made up the title, impying that the
title and the name of his former friend were mere coincidences.
[citation needed] Webb's 1971 follow up album And So: On proved
equally appealing to the critics. Rolling Stone declared the album
"another impressive step in the conspiracy to recover his identity
from the housewives of America and rightfully install him at the
forefront of contemporary composers/performers." His 1972 album
Letters met with similar praise. Peter Reilly of Stereo Review wrote,
"Jimmy Webb is the most important pop music figure to emerge since Bob
Dylan."[5]
Throughout the 1970s, he lived in Encino, Los Angeles, California,
fraternizing with Joni Mitchell and Harry Nilsson. He also struck up a
lifelong friendship with actor Michael Douglas. "Campo de Encino"
Webb's song chronicled his adventures and misadventures in his park-
like hacienda..."
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Truck Stop Woman by Dockery & Conley (the video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvtQEf7bnfs
George Dance
As much as I liked Galveston as a teenager, I hated Wichita Lineman. I
enjoyed reading a poem a year or so ago, by "u h" (called "Look into
the eye of the penis" or s/t like that), where fictional president
"Obamma" hears WL on the radio once too often, and dispatches the
Secret Service to assassinate Campbell.
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galveston, galveston
i can see yer blue greens flashing
i can see the dark man crashing
i’ll take a gun
and head to galveston
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i dunno doc...i think roger miller had the shit over webb...
"trailers for sale or rent
rooms to let .50c
no phone no pool no pets
i ain't got no cigarettes"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhApYxZisBI
my dad really dug roger miller, and the kingston trio...
i grew up on that shit man...and love it too...!
Will Dockery
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> i dunno doc...i think roger miller had the shit over webb...
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> "trailers for sale or rent
> rooms to let .50c
> no phone no pool no pets
> i ain't got no cigarettes"...
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhApYxZisBI
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> my dad really dug roger miller, and the kingston trio...
> i grew up on that shit man...and love it too...!
Yeah, like his "Dang me, dang me... they oughta take a rope and hang
me. Hang me from the highest trrrrreeeee-hee-hee!"
Great stuff...
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Tom Hendricks / Musea
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> > i dunno doc...i think roger miller had the shit over webb...
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> > no phone no pool no pets
> > i ain't got no cigarettes"...
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> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhApYxZisBI
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> > my dad really dug roger miller, and the kingston trio...
> > i grew up on that shit man...and love it too...!
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> Yeah, like his "Dang me, dang me... they oughta take a rope and hang
> me. Hang me from the highest trrrrreeeee-hee-hee!"
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> Great stuff...
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> "Red Lipped Stranger & other stories" by Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Jimmy Webb had more sophistication in his music - but his lyrics could
be hard to make sense of.
Roger Miller's lyrics always made sense, though his music was mostly
more simple.
George Dance
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> i dunno doc...i think roger miller had the shit over webb...
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> "trailers for sale or rent
> rooms to let .50c
> no phone no pool no pets
> i ain't got no cigarettes"...
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhApYxZisBI
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> my dad really dug roger miller, and the kingston trio...
> i grew up on that shit man...and love it too...!
You're mixing apples and oranges. Miller was a novelty singer. Webb
was a serious writer and arranger. The best comparison to Webb would
be Burt Bacharach.
Will Dockery
I feel like you're slighting old Miller just a bit there, George... I
feel the big difference between Miller & Webb is more that JW slipped
into some gravely pretentious songwriting, while RM would tend to go
off on a more Jack Kerouac beatnik "goof", as JK described it in
Visions of Cody & other writings. RM's bio clearly documents his
legendary status as a songwriter as well as good-timing roustabout:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Miller
"...Nashville songwriter
After his discharge, Miller traveled to Nashville to begin his musical
career. Once there, he met with Chet Atkins, who asked to hear Miller,
and loaned him his guitar after being notified that he did not own
one. Out of nervousness, Miller played the guitar and sang a song in
two different keys. Atkins advised him to come back at a later date,
after a little more work. Miller remained in Nashville and worked as a
bellhop at the Andrew Jackson Hotel, to make ends meet. He soon became
known as the "singing bellhop." Meanwhile, Miller's musical career was
beginning to progress. He was hired by Minnie Pearl to play fiddle in
her band,[4] and later met up with George Jones, who introduced him to
music executives from the Mercury-Starday label to set up an audition.
The label was impressed with Miller and awarded him with a session in
Houston. Jones accompanied him to the performance, and the two
collaborated, writing the songs, "Tall, Tall Trees" and "Happy Child."
The deal did not work out for Miller, who decided to leave Nashville
and become a fireman in Amarillo.[1]
“ The human mind is a wonderful thing, it starts working from before
you're born and doesn't stop till you sit down to write a song ”
—Roger Miller, [1]
Miller worked as a fireman during the day and spent the nights
performing gigs. He later recounted that as a fireman, he saw only two
fires, a "chicken coop" and another that he "slept through." After the
latter, the department "suggested that...[he] seek other employment."
Miller met with Ray Price, and was hired as a member of his Cherokee
Cowboys. He moved back to Nashville, and penned the song "Invitation
to the Blues," which was covered by Rex Allen and later for Price, for
whom it became a #3 hit on country charts.[5] Miller signed with Tree
Publishing, working for $50.00 a week, and soon began composing a
series of hits including "Half a Mind" for Ernest Tubb, "That's the
Way I Feel" for Faron Young and his first #1 song, "Billy Bayou,"
which along with "Home" were recorded by Jim Reeves. Miller soon
became one of the biggest songwriters of the 1950s. But Bill Anderson
would later remark that "Roger was the most talented, and least
disciplined person that you could imagine" citing the attempts of
Miller's Tree Publishing boss, Buddy Killen to force him to finish a
piece. He was also known to give away lines, inciting many Nashville
songwriters to follow him around since "everything he said was a
potential song." (Killen)..."
[...]
"...Smash Records agreed to the proposal, and Miller performed at his
first session for the company early in 1964. During this session he
recorded the hits "Dang Me" and "Chug-a-Lug," which both were released
as singles, peaking at #1 and #3 respectively on country charts. Both
also fared well on the Billboard Hot 100 reaching #7 and #9.[6] The
songs transformed Miller's career, although the former was penned by
Miller in only four minutes. Later that year, he recorded the #15 hit
"Do-Wacka-Do," and soon after the biggest hit of his career "King of
the Road," which topped Country and Adult Contemporary charts while
peaking at #4 on the Billboard 100. The song took months for Miller to
write and was inspired by a sign in Chicago that read "Trailers for
Sale or Rent" and a hobo happened upon by Miller while at an airport
in Boise. The song was certified gold in May 1965 after selling a
million copies. It won Miller numerous awards, and earned him a
royalty check worth $160,000 that summer.[1] Later in the year Miller
scored hits with "Engine Engine #9", "Kansas City Star" and "England
Swings," an adult contemporary #1. He began 1966 with the hit
"Husbands and Wives."..."
And so on... Dang me...
Will Dockery
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> > > i dunno doc...i think roger miller had the shit over webb...
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> > > "trailers for sale or rent
> > > rooms to let .50c
> > > no phone no pool no pets
> > > i ain't got no cigarettes"...
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> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhApYxZisBI
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> > > my dad really dug roger miller, and the kingston trio...
> > > i grew up on that shit man...and love it too...!
>
> > Yeah, like his "Dang me, dang me... they oughta take a rope and hang
> > me. Hang me from the highest trrrrreeeee-hee-hee!"
>
> > Great stuff...
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> > --
> > "Red Lipped Stranger & other stories" by Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
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> Jimmy Webb had more sophistication in his music - but his lyrics could
> be hard to make sense of.
> Roger Miller's lyrics always made sense, though his music was mostly
> more simple.
That covers it pretty well, I suppose...
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Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:974e84d7-77e0-4278...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
> Jimmy Webb had more sophistication in his music - but his lyrics could
> be hard to make sense of.
> Roger Miller's lyrics always made sense, though his music was mostly
> more simple.
Damn, it's been a long time since I've seen Tom on Usenet. Still working at
the Inwood?
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Will Dockery
"Rob Evans", drooling mouthed non-poet, wrote:
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> 3) It's not my fault that you don't like assertive intelligent woman or
> that they don't like you.
Assertive, intelligent "woman" that I like & who like working with me, I can
name three off the top of my head who I've collaborated with during 2009,
Mushmouth:
"Black Crow's Brother" by Will Dockery & Gini Woolfolk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxO1RAYTIFA
"Red Lipped Stranger":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBhcN1WK144
"She Sleeps Tight" with Sandy Madaris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU
"Waking Up Now":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8_Yp-dIPCY
"Under The Radar" with Eileen d'Esterno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQDFMNcgLA
Meanwhile, you don't seem to have written anything at all during 2009,
unless you consider your drooling & sniffing behind my posts "writing",
Mushmouth.
And, Rob Evans, your attitude towards female poets here over the years is
fully documented, you gunkmouthed, whistle-lisping old misogynist.
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Will Dockery
> On Nov 28, 10:54 am, George Dance <georgedanc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > On Nov 26, 12:09 am, "=z=" <shull...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > i dunno doc...i think roger miller had the shit over webb...
>
> > > "trailers for sale or rent
> > > rooms to let .50c
> > > no phone no pool no pets
> > > i ain't got no cigarettes"...
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhApYxZisBI
>
> > > my dad really dug roger miller, and the kingston trio...
> > > i grew up on that shit man...and love it too...!
>
> > You're mixing apples and oranges. Miller was a novelty singer. Webb
> > was a serious writer and arranger. The best comparison to Webb would
> > be Burt Bacharach.
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