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BEST 61-KEY SYNTH FOR PIANO AND ORGANS?

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Paul

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May 23, 2009, 6:06:53 PM5/23/09
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Hi,

I'm looking for something light and portable for gigging, hence
the
61 (or maybe 76) key scale. I find that for most music, you just
don't need
the 88 keys.

Also, mostly i use piano and organ sounds, so these patches
have
to be very good (or at least fully editable). Think Farfisa Compact
Duo (Pink Floyd), and Hammond organ voices. Also, some great church
pipe-organs would be great.All the other synth sounds are secondary.

I've played the Korg Triton LE and the Korg Karma, and they
both have
very nice organ sounds, to my ears. But the piano samples on these
are
a bit weak and tinny, especially at the higher notes, where they start
sounding
a bit toy-like (maybe the reason is that they sample in the mid-
range?). Also,
I mainly need this for playing live, so the sequencing and MIDI stuff
is not
too important to me, although i do plan on recording a bit in the
future.

Someone recommended the Nord C2, but this doesn't appear to
have any piano sounds.....

Danny T

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May 23, 2009, 9:11:03 PM5/23/09
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I realize you feel you don't need 88 keys (I feel all out of
proportion with a short board) but there is a great board in 88 that
is light weight and has good action. Its the Yamaha So8. I have one
and love it..... It does have some things I don't like: There are
actually too many sounds so they are buried in those have to push a
bunch of buttons to get them system. And as I stated, its light so if
you bang hard is moves a little more then a old school monster. The
sounds are great and the action is good while still letting you play
all night.

You can buy one used on ebay for less then 1/2 the new price I paid of
1000. I've seen good ones go for 4-500. Well worth it for a gig board
you gamble with each time you go out.

Paul

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May 24, 2009, 12:15:03 AM5/24/09
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Well, according to my research, the S-08 is 45 lbs, where
my P-85 is 26lbs. So my back doesn't like it so far!

Danny T

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May 24, 2009, 1:01:39 AM5/24/09
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I don't know how the P-85 plays but I do like the mine. If the P85 has
good action then rock on and save the back. For me its the fingers.
Drag a heavy rack or keyboard from truck to stage I can kiss my
playing good-bye for a few hours!

Gary R. Hook

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May 24, 2009, 9:49:01 AM5/24/09
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Paul wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for something light and portable for gigging, hence
>>> the
>>> 61 (or maybe 76) key scale. I find that for most music, you just
>>> don't need
>>> the 88 keys.
>>> Also, mostly i use piano and organ sounds, so these patches
>>> have
>>> to be very good (or at least fully editable). Think Farfisa Compact
>>> Duo (Pink Floyd), and Hammond organ voices. Also, some great church
>>> pipe-organs would be great.All the other synth sounds are secondary.

Find a used Alesis QS7. Semiweighted, 76 keys, excellent sounds
in your mix. (Not necessarily by themselves, but the mix is what
matters in a band context.)

--
Gary R. Hook
________________________________________________________________________
Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit

Danny T

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May 24, 2009, 2:31:38 PM5/24/09
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HEY - I forgot about those. I had a QS6 that was a dinky keyboard but
the sounds were most excellent. I couldn't stand the feel of that
little thing but I had it controlled by my Roland RD300 (a tank - you
don't want one even though I have one for sale) He's right about the
board though. It QS7 would be a good choice.

I just looked in ebay - there is one for sale. If you think you might
buy it, let me know. If you don't, I think I'm going to bid on it -

Jack Deckard

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May 24, 2009, 6:29:39 PM5/24/09
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Check out the Kurzweil PC361. I sure want one.

http://www.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/Product.php?product=196

---
Jack Deckard (aka klockwerk)


henrik

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May 26, 2009, 3:45:02 AM5/26/09
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yup, i hear favourable reviews of new PC3 series, even from motif xs
owners.
the older PC2 also had good rhodes, pianos
Alesis' piano will cut thru OK, but for solo, it's a terribly
overrated piano

Ian Chard

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May 26, 2009, 9:26:48 AM5/26/09
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I'd agree with that; I use an Alesis Fusion 8HD for live work, and while
all the piano sounds (electric and acoustic) are generally excellent for
live purposes (even solo), when recorded you can really hear the sample
crossover points, especially when it comes to velocity. Lovely feel to
the fully-weighted keyboard though. Organ sounds are not really to my
taste; I use an Oberheim OB3^2 for that, as I like to have one hand on
the drawbars :)

- Ian

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KGT

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May 26, 2009, 12:04:19 PM5/26/09
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If the Korg was your benchmark for good organs and you want "best" you
really need to hear the Nord Electro 2 or New 3 ( ~15lbs) My current
piano/organ rig is Roland Fantom FA76 ( expanded w/ Classic keyboards
card)and an EMU B3 organ module

PS I have a very used QS7 gathering dust:)

Paul

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May 26, 2009, 3:05:37 PM5/26/09
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Wow dude. This might be a perfect fit!

http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=Products&clpm=Nord_Electro_3


Even the 73 key version is only 18.2 lbs? Wow.

And check out this guy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbyQ-qGEpU0&feature=related


Just killer! Plus you can add your own samples, and
download the latest samples from the web.

The 73-key version is over $2000, but it might be worth it.


Thanks much.

Andrew Koenig

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May 28, 2009, 3:21:03 PM5/28/09
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"Paul" <Quill...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dd868ba8-9a65-401d...@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

> Someone recommended the Nord C2, but this doesn't appear to
> have any piano sounds.....

Indeed... but the Nord Electro 3 does. It may well be worth checking out.


Nick's Picks

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May 29, 2009, 7:23:33 AM5/29/09
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the Nords are great boards, and sound pretty good. can't beat the <
20lbs action.
I'm picky though, and I need real drawbars on my organ, so the Hammond
XK-1 fits the bill (best clonewheel ever, imo).
I just cant handle the Nord "digital button drawbars".
for straight up piano samples, the Kurzweil boards always sounded
right to me.

Paul

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May 29, 2009, 4:14:38 PM5/29/09
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On May 28, 12:21 pm, "Andrew Koenig" <a...@acm.org> wrote:
> "Paul" <Quiller...@gmail.com> wrote in message


yes, see my other post here.

However, they are a small company, and i have read
that customer support and repair services are very limited
and take forever.

Also, where the hell can i try one out? Very limited
distribution. Certainly not Guitar Center!!!

unfrostedpoptart

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May 30, 2009, 2:24:03 PM5/30/09
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All the Guitar Centers I've been to in Southern California carry many
of the Nord keyboards, including the Electro and Stage models. I think
the only one where I've seen the C1 (months ago, before the C2 came
out) was the big store on Sunset in Hollywood. I think they had every
single Nord and Moog keyboard on display.

The MAN

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May 30, 2009, 8:01:34 PM5/30/09
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Ok, well my local GC said that they would have to
order it for me, and that i would have to buy it first. The
30 day return policy would still hold, but i'd like to test
drive it first.....i'll look around more.

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