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Recently bought a new PA and a CBA

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frankt

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Dec 11, 2007, 5:12:55 PM12/11/07
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Hello,
I used to follow and occasionally post to this group in the late
1990's and for a few years after and was checking out some recent
discussions and decided to post again. I recognize a few names one of
which, Len Killick I have always appreciated his information on things
accordion. A lot of different accordions have passed through my hands
in the last 15 years. It has taken a long time to learn exactly what
kind of box I wanted to have and play. I have tried many brands old
and new. I also have done quite a bit of repair work but prefer
playing them to repairing or restoring. Anyway in the last few months
I sold the couple of of boxes I had and took delivery on a new
Fisitalia 53,35 TC "a C system CBA with French basses" and a Brandoni
model 68, a 34/72 PA with a natural wood finish. Both have hand made
reeds and are very high quality accordions and function as well as any
accordions I have played. Beautifully crafted accordions are still
being made in Italy although the currency exchange rates are really
brutal these days. I purchased the Fisitalia factory direct and the
Brandoni from Music Magic in NJ. I like dealing direct with the
company but Music Magic had this Brandoni in stock and at what seemed
like a fair price so I went for it. The 2 accordions have completely
different personalities but they are used for very different things.
The little PA is for Blues and Zydeco and general jamming and the CBA
is set up to play modern French musette like on the "paris musette"
cd's. Those 3 cd's just blow me away and my goal is to play that style
of music as best as I can. I am now broke but very happy. Well thats
all for now. This group remains is a great resource for squeezebox
info.
My best to all,
Frank Tabor

GINO

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Dec 13, 2007, 8:55:36 PM12/13/07
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Its very nice to hear from someone that has talent to play both PA an
CBA, I am actually thinking of buying a PA, now that I am only a CBA
player, thanyou for sharing Frank.

frankt

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Dec 13, 2007, 11:09:18 PM12/13/07
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Hi Gino,
Thank you for your response. I don't know if it is talent that I have
or just a desire and determination to play both systems.
I am better at reading music and also increasing my knowledge of
scales, chords and chord inversions on the PA keyboard.
I then try to transfer what I learn to the CBA. I guess that is
natural since I started out on PA. Also I only speak English and here
in USA
there is much more educational material based on a piano style
keyboard. I really love the range of notes available within the span
of my hand
on the CBA though and that is part of its attraction for me.
I am curious of why you are interested in playing the PA in addition
to your CBA?
Best regards,
Frank

I would be interested to know what types of music you play on your CBA
and

GINO

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Dec 14, 2007, 11:42:06 AM12/14/07
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Frank, I completely switched from the Diatonic to the CBA, so, I have
done some changes myself, I learned how to read music about 1 year ago
an it has been a large step in my life, seeing you can play both, mabe
I will use a B system also? I play a C-systm, but I think I can do
both mabe, however. The reason I would also like to try the PA is
because I want to have the have the same feeling Beethoven had when he
was sitting in front of th Piano, I have a lot of Beethoven, Mozart,
an Chopin, that I think would fit more better on a PA
accordion.......Chopin, "prelude". I want to try an play the music
exactly the way it is written with the most feeling..

ike milligan

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Dec 15, 2007, 2:38:44 PM12/15/07
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"GINO" <hardcorec...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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ANything like that, you would be better off with a CBA converter, maybe a
bayan. The only way you would get the same feeling as Beethoven or Chopin is
probably with and actual piano. The Right hand on a PA is so much more
limited than either a piano or a CBA. The long reach possible on a CBA, if
you use the thumb, can somewhat make up for the limits of the left hand on a
Stradella system, and with a free bass CBA you could make a stab at the
classical piano repertoire.


Alan Sharkis

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Dec 15, 2007, 5:41:19 PM12/15/07
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This discussion makes me think of Lidia Kaminska. She plays a Zero
Sette B-system CBA (she's known as a bayanist, although she uses the
term "accordion" when speaking about it.) That instrument, with its
converter bass and seven chin switches, in addition to fifteen treble
switches on the grille, weighs thirty-five pounds! But she plays a
lot of transcriptions of Bach and other Baroque music as well as
pieces written for the accordion -- all seated.

Take care.

Alan
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Dec 16, 2007, 12:34:27 AM12/16/07
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Oh hey, I think I remember you, Frank. Didn't you have a Cavagnolo
chromatic for sale on Ebay at one time? I remember because those
appear so rarely here in the U.S. and I've been wanting one for ages.

ike milligan

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Dec 16, 2007, 12:36:27 PM12/16/07
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Take care.

Alan

That's what I would do, if I had a heavuy accordion. or use a stand. Trying
to save my knee until I qualify for Medicaid, then will try to see about an
artificial one. I play some classical stuff using the Stradella and a PA
keyboard, which the more I have attempted it, the more I find possible.


GINO

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Dec 17, 2007, 11:20:31 AM12/17/07
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Freebass? The layout is different from the stradella, so I would have
to learn it all over agin right? Or does the convertor drop the chords
with the same layout??

Alan Sharkis

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Dec 17, 2007, 1:01:43 PM12/17/07
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There are several free bass layouts -- Bassetti and Quint come to
mind. Converters usually switch between one free bass layout or
another and Stradella.

Take care.

Alan

ike milligan

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Dec 17, 2007, 3:34:25 PM12/17/07
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"Alan Sharkis" <cartilagi...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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There are several free bass layouts -- Bassetti and Quint come to
mind. Converters usually switch between one free bass layout or
another and Stradella.

I don't know these different free bass layouts, but I think they are similar
to the right-hand CBA layout. I never yet played the converter or
single-note bass. I have found it possible to play a lot of classical
repertoire using Stradella, some of which seemed impossible until I got
better at it. there is a lot of stuff that just should be p[layed on piano
and organ, though. Organ is more adpatable, but how, for instance would you
play the Beethoven "Hammerklavier" sonata on the accordion? Few people can
even do it on th piano. OTOH "sonata" problem to play a waltz. I won't tell
you the classical repertoire I play because it is Haydn's "Surprise
Symphony".


Russ Gray

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Dec 17, 2007, 5:56:57 PM12/17/07
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gino not to worry - you can get your freebass set up to mirror your C
system so your left hand is a mirror of the right. You already know
where everything is. If I had the money I would get a freebass.
russ

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