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The music all sounds the same for a reason - it is the same
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Tom Hendricks
Jul 29, 2012, 11:26:53 PM7/29/12
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Patrick Simonelli sent me this science report on recent mainstream music - it really does all sound the same - not opinion - fact. And the story brings forward what I have found in comparing my recordings with the majors. Mine are recorded at normal volume, the majors have their volumes ramped up to way in the 'red'. Take a look.
http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html
What do you think? My music is at hunkasaurus.com.
Tom Hendricks
(editor of the 20 year old zine Musea)
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Patrick Simonelli sent me this science report on recent mainstream music - it really does all sound the same - not opinion - fact. And the story brings forward what I have found in comparing my recordings with the majors. Mine are recorded at normal volume, the majors have their volumes ramped up to way in the 'red'. Take a look.
http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html
What do you think? My music is at hunkasaurus.com.
Tom Hendricks
(editor of the 20 year old zine Musea)
ZINE, Named one of the best ZINES by UTNE magazine. Featured on ROCKETBOOM)
http://www.Musea.us
MUSIC, 6 full CD's of free Post-Bands Music)
http://www.Hunkasaurus.com
BLOG for Musea, Art Contests, Weekly E-mail Messages)
http://www.Musea.wordpress.com
rakman
Jul 30, 2012, 12:52:08 PM7/30/12
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On Monday, July 30, 2012 4:26:53 AM UTC+1, Tom Hendricks wrote:
> Patrick Simonelli sent me this science report on recent mainstream music - it really does all sound the same - not opinion - fact. And the story brings forward what I have found in comparing my recordings with the majors. Mine are recorded at normal volume, the majors have their volumes ramped up to way in the 'red'. Take a look.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html
>
> What do you think? My music is at hunkasaurus.com.
It's true.
> Patrick Simonelli sent me this science report on recent mainstream music - it really does all sound the same - not opinion - fact. And the story brings forward what I have found in comparing my recordings with the majors. Mine are recorded at normal volume, the majors have their volumes ramped up to way in the 'red'. Take a look.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/pop-music-sounds-same-nowadays-171714762.html
>
> What do you think? My music is at hunkasaurus.com.
A lot of people using the same equipment and
chasing that loud, bright mixdown.
Less geographical variation due to the internet
and everything being available everywhere.
Everybody chasing the perfect pop formula that works
on the radio, in a club, at home, at the gym, in the car,
at work, at a gig, and across all demographics.
A global ban on diminished chords and other
ugly-sounding rubbish. A partial ban on maj7 chords.
Keeping it as pop as pos.
I usually feel more proud of my songwriting when I manage to
write a song that sounds mainstream though, than when I write
something really weird and individual.
Tom Hendricks
Jul 30, 2012, 2:35:41 PM7/30/12
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I agree with all you say except that last line. Being weird is not the same as being good. Writing a great song will stand out - not fit in. Cause for the sameness may be the consolidation of thousands of record companies that wanted to stand out - to the Big Four that control 80% of the music industry, and want to manufacture songs -
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/05/137530847/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-hit-song?sc=nl&cc=brk-20110630-2317&ps=brk-mp
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/07/05/137530847/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-hit-song?sc=nl&cc=brk-20110630-2317&ps=brk-mp
Gill Smith
Jul 30, 2012, 4:00:08 PM7/30/12
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"rakman" <rakma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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about things sound samey because of far fewer studios/producers/etc.
and d-i-y bedroom rockers never get out of musical diapers before they run
dry/self destruct
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>
>A lot of people using the same equipment and
>chasing that loud, bright mixdown.
similar thought occurred to me recently
>A lot of people using the same equipment and
>chasing that loud, bright mixdown.
about things sound samey because of far fewer studios/producers/etc.
and d-i-y bedroom rockers never get out of musical diapers before they run
dry/self destruct
--
http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
Louise
Jul 30, 2012, 9:18:28 PM7/30/12
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rakman <rakma...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:3170401b-c458-435c...@googlegroups.com:
> It's true.
>
> A lot of people using the same equipment and
> chasing that loud, bright mixdown.
The "Me-Too" format can only make things their very worst!
> Less geographical variation due to the internet
> and everything being available everywhere.
That should only enhance the uniqueness as it would give artists more
exposure to different styles, and even forms...a bigger marketplace of
ideas - at least in theory anyway ;)
> Everybody chasing the perfect pop formula that works
> on the radio, in a club, at home, at the gym, in the car,
> at work, at a gig, and across all demographics.
That's a guaranteed formula for pure me-too Crap - and that's exactly
what's happening.
My attitude about songwriting is that my songs are not everyone, only
those who like them ;)
> A global ban on diminished chords and other
> ugly-sounding rubbish. A partial ban on maj7 chords.
> Keeping it as pop as pos.
NO!!!
I LOVE Lots of chords, augmented, diminished, added, 6ths maj7ths,
min7ths, dominant 7ths, sus2s, sus4s, and of course, slash chords - makes
playing keyboards all that much more FUN ;)
> I usually feel more proud of my songwriting when I manage to
> write a song that sounds mainstream though, than when I write
> something really weird and individual.
I've found that mainstream is often more weird than the Unique Individual
variety.
Ouisie
news:3170401b-c458-435c...@googlegroups.com:
> It's true.
>
> A lot of people using the same equipment and
> chasing that loud, bright mixdown.
> Less geographical variation due to the internet
> and everything being available everywhere.
exposure to different styles, and even forms...a bigger marketplace of
ideas - at least in theory anyway ;)
> Everybody chasing the perfect pop formula that works
> on the radio, in a club, at home, at the gym, in the car,
> at work, at a gig, and across all demographics.
what's happening.
My attitude about songwriting is that my songs are not everyone, only
those who like them ;)
> A global ban on diminished chords and other
> ugly-sounding rubbish. A partial ban on maj7 chords.
> Keeping it as pop as pos.
I LOVE Lots of chords, augmented, diminished, added, 6ths maj7ths,
min7ths, dominant 7ths, sus2s, sus4s, and of course, slash chords - makes
playing keyboards all that much more FUN ;)
> I usually feel more proud of my songwriting when I manage to
> write a song that sounds mainstream though, than when I write
> something really weird and individual.
variety.
Ouisie
Gill Smith
Jul 31, 2012, 8:50:55 AM7/31/12
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"Tom Hendricks" <tom-he...@att.net> wrote in message
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hey
I said that
this is clearly GROSS VIOLATION OF COPYRIGHT
my chance to get my hands on the Hendricks millions
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I said that
this is clearly GROSS VIOLATION OF COPYRIGHT
my chance to get my hands on the Hendricks millions
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Gill Smith
Jul 31, 2012, 8:56:29 AM7/31/12
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"Louise" <oui...@ouisie.com> wrote in message
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apropos
heard some bigwig talking about Adele's Someone Like You (or whatever it's
called)
the solo piano was because it was supposed to be the demo
the bigwig said you could tell it was the demo because the piano was too
loud! - relative to the vocals
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news:L5idnUk8yrz5r4rN...@earthlink.com...
heard some bigwig talking about Adele's Someone Like You (or whatever it's
called)
the solo piano was because it was supposed to be the demo
the bigwig said you could tell it was the demo because the piano was too
loud! - relative to the vocals
--
http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
Louise
Jul 31, 2012, 1:17:47 PM7/31/12
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"Gill Smith" <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:C4-dnccAg7aWS4rN...@brightview.co.uk:
> apropos
>
> heard some bigwig talking about Adele's Someone Like You (or whatever
> it's called)
>
> the solo piano was because it was supposed to be the demo
>
> the bigwig said you could tell it was the demo because the piano was
> too loud! - relative to the vocals
>
> --
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
The piano is not too loud! It goes with the vocals fine. If I ever cover
that song, along with "Rolling In The Deep", and "I'll Be Waiting", I'll be
sure to play the piano at around the same relative volume. Musicians tend
to like their instruments to be clearly heard rather than subdued into the
background. Ever hear Paul McCartney's bass blasting through loud and clear
in his songs, whether he's singing at the time or not? Well, it's the same
for me as well - whether I'm singing or not, I want my keys to be heard
clearly ;)
Ouisie
news:C4-dnccAg7aWS4rN...@brightview.co.uk:
> apropos
>
> heard some bigwig talking about Adele's Someone Like You (or whatever
> it's called)
>
> the solo piano was because it was supposed to be the demo
>
> the bigwig said you could tell it was the demo because the piano was
> too loud! - relative to the vocals
>
> --
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
that song, along with "Rolling In The Deep", and "I'll Be Waiting", I'll be
sure to play the piano at around the same relative volume. Musicians tend
to like their instruments to be clearly heard rather than subdued into the
background. Ever hear Paul McCartney's bass blasting through loud and clear
in his songs, whether he's singing at the time or not? Well, it's the same
for me as well - whether I'm singing or not, I want my keys to be heard
clearly ;)
Ouisie
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