instrumentals

[Gill Smith]

I wonder if there's a reason why some things stay as instrumentals

writing lyrics for an extended tune is a real bind....

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[Louise]

Gill Smith <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in news:018caa8d-daa9-
415f-b1b6-5...@g7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com:

Depends on how extended the tune is...10 minutes? 20? How about something
as long as Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick"? around 45 minutes ;)

Ouisie

[Gill Smith]

On 15 May, 12:21, Louise <oui...@ouisie.com> wrote:
> Gill Smith <gill.smith....@googlemail.com> wrote in news:018caa8d-daa9-
> 415f-b1b6-5a9c14bc2...@g7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com:

>
> > I wonder if there's a reason why some things stay as instrumentals
>
> > writing lyrics for an extended tune is a real bind....
>
> > --
> >http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>
> Depends on how extended the tune is...10 minutes? 20? How about something
> as long as Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick"? around 45 minutes ;)
>
> Ouisie

16 bars verse, 8 bars build, 16 bars chorus (x2)

16 bars bridge

final chorus

I'm having a go at being Cole Porter.....

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[Tom Hendricks]

I heard Walk Don't Run, the instrumental by the Venutures on the radio
the other day and wondered how it would sound with lyrics. Kinda
strange but it might work.

[Gill Smith]

give it a go

someone in the 1920s put words to a long-forgotten music-hall
interlude

and called it "The Teddy Bears Picnic"....

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[Gill Smith]

maybe I should prepare a couple of "mixes"

but rather than a 12" dub mix and a "radio mix" and whatever

I'd have one with classic 1930s orchestration - and which keeps the
extended melody lines

(and which appeals to the folks who buy Cara Emerald/Michael Buble
albums)

the other a pop version using modern synths slotted into the tracks

but the melody would have to broken up into more bite-sized chunks and
shared among different voices/instruments

with more repeats of the verse

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[Louise]

Gill Smith <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in

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> 16 bars verse, 8 bars build, 16 bars chorus (x2)
>
> 16 bars bridge
>
> final chorus
>
> I'm having a go at being Cole Porter.....
>
> --
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

Only with song length or does that include chords too? ;)

Ouisie

[Gill Smith]

On 16 May, 14:07, Louise <oui...@ouisie.com> wrote:

> Gill Smith <gill.smith....@googlemail.com> wrote innews:ea35854f-ec2a-4cae...@m7g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > 16 bars verse, 8 bars build, 16 bars chorus (x2)
>
> > 16 bars bridge
>
> > final chorus
>
> > I'm having a go at being Cole Porter.....
>
> > --
> >http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>
> Only with song length or does that include chords too? ;)

I pride myself on bringing a touch of soffistication to the harmonies

that said, having spent the morning listening to Demi Lovato, Avril
Lavigne etc.
I see they, by and large, follow the 16, 8, 16 format

so no need for melodic surgery

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[Louise]

Gill Smith <gill.sm...@googlemail.com> wrote in

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> I pride myself on bringing a touch of soffistication to the harmonies
>
> that said, having spent the morning listening to Demi Lovato, Avril
> Lavigne etc.
> I see they, by and large, follow the 16, 8, 16 format
>
> so no need for melodic surgery
>
> --
> http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
>

I like what I've heard from Demi and Avril - but if I ever liked it
enough to want to cover it, I'd still rock & roll it ;)

Ouisie

[Pepe Papon]

TIAB (one of my all-time favorite rock albums) is really a series of
songs interconnected with instrumental transitions.

[Louise]

Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:kcdqp898cct9l85ds...@4ax.com:

> TIAB (one of my all-time favorite rock albums) is really a series of
> songs interconnected with instrumental transitions.

I think it' so Cool how they put that one long multi-part tune together.
First one person starts working on a groove and builds in into something,
then the next person takes it from there and does a similar thing with
it, and it keeps growing longer and longer, until there was almost no
more room for one LP, and to go with it, attributed to Ian Anderson's
fictional, or hallucinatory "Gerald Bostock", is a cute little story
about how Gerald aka "Little Milton" was disqualified from a poetry
contest for the anti-establishment tone of his poem "Thick As A Brick",
but Jethro Tull saved the day by immortalizing "Little Milton's" poem in
one long 43 minute 46 second song that took an entire LP to hold it ;)
Now THAT'S Innovation! And it's a JAM too!

Ouisie

[Pepe Papon]

TIAB actually gets my vote for greatest rock album ever. Not only
that, it's the greatest album cover ever, but only if you're lucky
enough to have a copy from the first printing.

[Louise]

Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in

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> TIAB actually gets my vote for greatest rock album ever.

There was simply so much great Rock & Roll back then in 1972, to have only
one greatest album ;)

> Not only
> that, it's the greatest album cover ever, but only if you're lucky
> enough to have a copy from the first printing.

I wasn't that lucky ;) But I heard about it, that it was actually designed
to look like a newspaper - once again, along with the Awesome Music of
course, Innovative Creativity, something Very Sorely Missing today!

Ouisie

[Pepe Papon]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 05:06:31 -0500, Louise <oui...@ouisie.com> wrote:

>Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in
>news:ukfrp8t9mf4b5st6d...@4ax.com:
>
>> TIAB actually gets my vote for greatest rock album ever.
>
>There was simply so much great Rock & Roll back then in 1972, to have only
>one greatest album ;)

Assuming I only get one vote.

>> Not only
>> that, it's the greatest album cover ever, but only if you're lucky
>> enough to have a copy from the first printing.
>
>I wasn't that lucky ;) But I heard about it, that it was actually designed
>to look like a newspaper - once again, along with the Awesome Music of
>course, Innovative Creativity, something Very Sorely Missing today!

I'm lucky enough (old enough?) to have the original album. It's 14
pages (might be 12, but I'm too lazy to get up and look), and it's
really quite cleverly humorous.

[Louise]

Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in

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> Assuming I only get one vote.

I'd have to vote for ALL the Rock & Roll ;)

> I'm lucky enough (old enough?) to have the original album. It's 14
> pages (might be 12, but I'm too lazy to get up and look), and it's
> really quite cleverly humorous.

I only thought it was a full size paper dimensionally, not content-wise
too! Wow, was I Cheated! If Ian Anderson put it together, it had to be a
trip ;)

Ouisie

[Pepe Papon]

I'm thinking it's probably 14 pages (still haven't looked) because
there's a running joke throughout with the number 4. I'm not sure if
the number has any special meaning, but every place in the newspaper
where numbers appear, the number is either 4, 44, or 14. So, 14
pages would fit with the whole scheme.

[Louise]

Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in

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> I'm thinking it's probably 14 pages (still haven't looked) because
> there's a running joke throughout with the number 4. I'm not sure if
> the number has any special meaning, but every place in the newspaper
> where numbers appear, the number is either 4, 44, or 14. So, 14
> pages would fit with the whole scheme.

I've never seen that. Maybe someone has scanned it and put it online.

Ouisie

[Pepe Papon]

I suppose I could do that, assuming the pages will fit on the scanner.

[Louise]

Pepe Papon <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in

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> I suppose I could do that, assuming the pages will fit on the scanner.

It probably already exists, I just didn't bother looking for it.

Ouisie