OK, I added a new song to MySpace
Danny T
years back.
http://www.myspace.com/pianomandanny
I'm interested - what do you think - should I stick to producing and
publishing :-)
aluode
> I just posted a live version of me playing solo, live at show a few
> I'm interested - what do you think - should I stick to producing and
> publishing :-)
Very nice guitar sound.
Good song.
I wish there had been one more mic for the audience and some audience
noise had
been mixed in..
Antti
Danny T
You're kidding - right? I tried as hard as I could to get the noise
out! I still have it where the vocal mic is not flooded with vocals.
There was a noise gate on it that took most out but you can here it
when I am not singing.... Are you being serious? I can't think why I'd
want crowd noise in a recording.
Oh well, I guess next time I'll not worry about it and make a noisy
recording :-)
Actually, the recording was more for evaluation. I always record my
gigs so I can keep cool stuff and not repeat dumb stuff. I use a sony
dat walkman thing. I think its called a TD-7 or something like that -
I'd tell you for sure but its box is being used right now to level out
a speaker until I get my new stands. (its a t-something 7 anyway). I
run a 2 hour dat in it and listen back to everything later on. I just
happened to put that song off to see if I could eq out the background.
I did get a little of it but not much.
aluode
I guess if there were a couple loud inviduals who would stand out on
the
mix it would not be too good or something like that. But I actually
like a
crowd noise mixed in, expecially if it is a large crowd.
Antti
Danny T
I have a few more songs from that gig (only played a few songs there).
I wasn't going to use them because of the background noise but maybe
I'll post them next week when I find my tape again.... yes I am a bit
scattered:-) The sound came out pretty good considering it was live.
BTW, the trick to that sounding good for live was a multi band
compressor. I think its my new favorite toy.
Danny T
PS
I have a bunch of my productions up on my demo site - if anyone wants
to hear those
http://www.demosmasters.com/production.html
Art Farley
mics were you using on the vocal and guitar? Can you also explain more about
what type of multi-band compressor you're using? Is it a Pro-Tools plugin or
a standalone unit? What kind of settings are you using on the compressor to
get that warm of a sound?
That's a lot of questions I know but I'm really interested.
-Matt-
www.livemusiciancentral.com
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Danny T
> Danny, it sounds really good man! Very warm and present. What kind of
> mics were you using on the vocal and guitar? Can you also explain more about
> what type of multi-band compressor you're using? Is it a Pro-Tools plugin or
> a standalone unit? What kind of settings are you using on the compressor to
> get that warm of a sound?
> That's a lot of questions I know but I'm really interested.
>
> -Matt-www.livemusiciancentral.com
>
really -
The guitar is my Koa Yairi with a western mini pickup! Yes that is an
internal pickup on the guitar, I believe I ran it through an Avalon
Pre with a bit of eq and slight compression. My vocals were through a
dynamic mic but I don't remember which one. It was on stage and I used
what was there. I had the sound guy dump the tracks into a DAT and put
the vocals on one side and the guitar on the other.
The multi compression was the Waves C4 in cubase after the fact. I was
able to knock down some of the audience noise and it really made the
track sound a lot better. I used one plug in for the vocal, and on the
other track I stereo simulated the guitar and used another c4 on that.
Then I did it again on the master out. I can't member which settings I
used. I think I started with a preset for a rhythm guitar and then
tweaked it from there. I only tweaked it a little in each track so it
wouldn't mess things up.
The Other Side Of The Door I used an Octava mk012 on the guitar (I
think) and ran it through my avalon 737 again with a little eq and
compression. The Marimbas I used a stereo pair of MXL 603's's and the
same for the shakers. The bass was an Alvarez jumbo acoustic miced up
and compressed to hell with a rode nt2 mic on it. The congas I think I
used MXL 603's but I might have used Octava mk012's. I don't remember
what I used for a vocal mic. I probably used an MXL v67 but I think it
would have been better with a Rode NTV. I need to redo the vocals on
it anyway.....
My EQ is what makes the tracks sound good (besides the compressions).
I never "add", only subtract EQ and the way to do that is to isolate
the worst sounding part of the tone by pushing it way up and using the
q to find the nasty part, then drop that out. There is always a wolf
tone somewhere and if you can take that out of the mix the mix sound
really clean and sweet. Then if you compress stuff so they don't sit
on each other (a little pan helps) your golden.
Matt
Thanks for the info. I'm always fighting to get a decent compression for
my tracks in Pro-Tools. I don't love any of the compressors I have used in
Pro-Tools . I'll have to see if I can get a multi-band compressor. I like
your EQ'ing strategy too. I tend to boost here and cut there until it sounds
good. I mainly fight with getting a good, warm compressed vocal sound.
-Matt-
www.livemusiciancentral.com
Danny T
You'll find that there are a few pitfalls of recording digitally. The
first is that recorded voice just sounded better in the old analog
days and we all got used it that way. The thing that is missing is a
little distortion (not to mention the lose of feel when we sing to a
mic instead of a cute girl). If you use a good mic, in a good room, at
the right distance for the sound you are after, you will still need to
give it some flavor. The first step is to be a cook and taste that
flavor in your mind before you record it. There are intimate, all most
a wet mouth sound you can get from singing close and soft to the mic,
a more balanced sound that you might get by singing further back form
a mic and so on.
Then, you need the signal as hot as you can get it without clipping
BEFORE you go into the digi world. A low signal can be boosted later
but you lose the quality in bits. The best way to do that is push the
signal up a and limit it with a compressor but don't go past about 2:1
OR 3:1 at the most and keep the threshold a bit high. You can squash
things later if you feel you want to.
If you get a good, clean track in of yourself you can send me a copy.
I'll drop it into my setup and play with is a bit to see what I can
come up with and if you like it you can use my settings. I know what I
need from doing it forever so it only takes me a second to get the eq
for myself. I roll the mids off about 2dB at 450 - 460. I expand the
top end, lightly compress the mids and stretch the bass out and it
works for me.
Just keep at it. it takes time to figure out what sounds good. Don't
forget, you spend your life hearing you from inside your head. You'll
want to get someone else's opinion on what sounds good or bad when it
comes to your own voice.