Structuralism/Modernism;Poststructuralism/Postmodernism
LstPuritan
http://www.unisa.ac.za/dept/press/dearte/54/stevens.html
http://carmen.artsci.washington.edu/panop/subject_P.htm
http://www.as.ua.edu/ant/Faculty/murphy/436/pomo.htm
http://www.georgetown.edu/irvinemj/technoculture/pomo.html
to start.
--Justin
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Chris Aher (at home)
You are leading tender young minds down the garden path of intellectual
rigor! The next thing you know they will be engaging in critical thinking!
We can't have that, can we? What would their teachers think? ;)
Regards,
Chris
"LstPuritan" <lstpu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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LstPuritan
>
>You are leading tender young minds down the garden path of intellectual
>rigor! The next thing you know they will be engaging in critical thinking!
>We can't have that, can we? What would their teachers think? ;)
>
>Regards,
>Chris
These "tender young minds" can go into high school English Class and inform
their teachers that all this close reading of the text as a stand alone
document which is somehow to be understood aside from the considering the
author's relation to the text, the text's relation to itself, and the text's
relation to the reader, is giving them a headache.
"Excuse me, Mrs. Johnson. First of all, I'd just like to remind you that
evidently all the New Critics are long dead . . . except you. Only you don't
know enough to know that you would be a New Critic, even if New Criticism were
still a *new* or thriving critical scholarly movement. And you're not so far
from pushing up daisies yourself. Secondly, I need to go to the bathroom.
Thirdly, and for the last time, Postmodernism has *nothing* do do with Star
Wars! It's Space Fiction, not even science fiction--and WHY do you have facial
hair?!?!!!!"
oops... flashback.
*My* students would just chant second declension masculine Latin, all day,
every day.
Dominus
Domini
Domino
Dominum......................
--Justin
David Kernohan
> >Shame on you, Justin!
> >
> >You are leading tender young minds down the garden path of intellectual
> >rigor! The next thing you know they will be engaging in critical thinking!
> >We can't have that, can we? What would their teachers think? ;)
> >
> >Regards,
> >Chris
>
> These "tender young minds" can go into high school English Class and inform
> their teachers that all this close reading of the text as a stand alone
> document which is somehow to be understood aside from the considering the
> author's relation to the text, the text's relation to itself, and the text's
> relation to the reader, is giving them a headache.
If it wasn't for post-modern theory I would have to write critical
papers that people could understand. PM may be great but intellectual
rigour is not the phrase of choice to describe it!
David
Dave Andrews
<< If it wasn't for post-modern theory I would have to write critical
papers that people could understand. >>
;-)
<< PM may be great but intellectual
rigour is not the phrase of choice to describe it! >>
Back in college nearly 30 years ago, I had a very young English teacher for
American Literature. At the time, the terms "modernist" or "post-modernist"
were not in my vocabulary, although she quite obviously embraced a PM
philosophical base. The moral of the story is that I had 6 credits (3 each
semester) and managed a B both times. This was due to my ability to write
creatively ("roll up your pants, it's too late to save your shoes") I split
the cost of the 9 books 3 ways during the first semester. To the best of my
knowledge, I read maybe half of one. The second semester, I did not buy the 11
books, or read anything more than the preface to Moby Dick. But what a
masterpiece my final paper was. Made no sense, but I did my best to exploit
her belief system.
With all due respect,
Dave Andrews
D. W. Andrews Associates
Church Music System Specialists
"Two Hacks Working Out Of A Garage"
Disclaimer: If there are two ways to take my words,
always assume I was after the cheap laugh.
Chris Aher
"LstPuritan" <lstpu...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Excuse me, Mrs. Johnson. First of all, I'd just like to remind you that
> evidently all the New Critics are long dead . . . except you. Only you
don't
> know enough to know that you would be a New Critic, even if New Criticism
were
> still a *new* or thriving critical scholarly movement. And you're not so
far
> from pushing up daisies yourself. Secondly, I need to go to the bathroom.
> Thirdly, and for the last time, Postmodernism has *nothing* do do with
Star
> Wars! It's Space Fiction, not even science fiction--and WHY do you have
facial
> hair?!?!!!!"
>
> oops... flashback.
>
The local HS English teachers here in CT have a hard time spelling things
like "New Criticism" and "Postmodernism" much less being able to discuss
their deficiencies. My son was very pleasantly shocked at U of Chicago at
being able to have intelligent discourse with his profs.
> *My* students would just chant second declension masculine Latin, all day,
> every day.
>
> Dominus
> Domini
> Domino
> Dominum......................
>
> --Justin
Bowing at your feet, I'm sure. ;)
Regards,
Chris
Chris Aher
correctly, (I'm not a scholar, just a former piano tech disguised as a
corporate systems engineering executive) these ideas seem to have originated
in the Department of Silly Walks and border on criminal stupidity, at least
when applied to the sciences.
I think that Justin was trying to get several of our younger and brighter
participants in this newsgroup to apply rigor and critical thinking to their
examination of these ideas. Unfortunately, our education system here in the
US sometimes exposes students to them in a rather insidious manner by
teachers who don't have a clue about the nonsense that they spout. Rigor is
not always encouraged by high school teachers here and more's the pity.
Regards,
Chris
LstPuritan
>> Domini
>> Domino
>> Dominum......................
>>
>> --Justin
>
>Bowing at your feet, I'm sure. ;)
>
>Regards,
>Chris
>
>
Hogtied.
Dave Andrews
I don't understand, Chris. Not one of those guys that Justin listed can make a
decent pizza.
Sincerely,
DWA - Renaissance Man
Chris Aher (at home)
"LstPuritan" <lstpu...@aol.com> wrote :
>
> Hogtied.
>
>
greg presley
> >> Dominus
> >> Domini
> >> Domino
> >> Dominum......................
> >>
> >> --Justin
What dull classes you must have, Justin. How I remember the erudite lessons
of my high school Latin class. Fac me. Dic mihi. Semper ubi sub ubi. Why,
we practically put Catullus to shame. Greg
Radu Focshaner
greg presley wrote:What dull classes you must have, Justin. How I remember the
erudite lessons
> of my high school Latin class. Fac me. Dic mihi. Semper ubi sub ubi. Why,
> we practically put Catullus to shame. Greg
Patria nostra Romania pulchra est. Multe silvae sunt que bestis abundant.
r.
Radu Focshaner
Radu Focshaner
LstPuritan wrote:
>
> Dominus
> Domini
> Domino
> Dominum......................
>
>
Fiat lux !
Mercedes-Benz !
Dwain Lee
"Radu Focshaner" <ra...@writeme.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for sharing one of your bookmarks with us, Radu. The FBI just made an
interesting new entry into my dossier.
Dwain
LstPuritan
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>> >> Dominus
>> >> Domini
>> >> Domino
>> >> Dominum......................
>> >>
>> >> --Justin
>
>What dull classes you must have, Justin. How I remember the erudite lessons
>of my high school Latin class. Fac me.
Watch your mouth!
>Dic mihi.
I'd rather not.
>Semper ubi sub ubi.
I shall.
>Why,
>we practically put Catullus to shame.
Catullus? Any Latin course that includes a required textbook "The Latin Sexual
Vocabulary" is at the least worth of note. Caesar and Horace should be so ...
explicit.
>Greg
--Justin
greg presley
"LstPuritan" <lstpu...@aol.com> wrote in message > Catullus? Any Latin
course that includes a required textbook "The Latin Sexual
> Vocabulary" is at the least worth of note. Caesar and Horace should be so
...
> explicit.
Alas, in my catholic all boys high school, we were left to our own devices -
no Latin Sexual Vocabulary for us. The more enterprising among us discovered
that there were a number of untranslated volumes of various Latin authors in
the library, however, and we discovered that some authors went far beyond
veni,vidi,vinci............
LstPuritan
Past the Eugium all the way to the Landica!?!?
Well, Greg, you know it is never too late to learn. Where do I start? Boys
have p-----argh. Just read the book.
I was not joking.
The Latin Sexual Vocabulary
J.N. Adams
John Hopkins University Press
ISBN: 0-8018-2968-2
--Justin
LstPuritan
Yes, and there is even an a link titled "job opportunities."
Opportunity, here, used highly subjectively.
Midlife crisis?
--Justin