advice on bearing edge work?
Larry Will
Hi.
I've got some drums that need to have the bearing edges re-cut. Can
anyone recommend someone who does great work?
In the past I've had Pork Pie and J&J Drum Restoration do some bearing
edge work for me, and I wasn't satisfied with the results. Neither
bothered to make sure the edges were level before shipping the drums back
to me, and J&J didn't even sand the edges smooth after re-cutting them.
I guess finding a good drum repair guy is as hard as finding a good auto
mechanic.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
- Larold Will
Paul Marshall
recently about their guy doing a spiffing job. I would have thought that
finishing off & QA-ing the cut would be obligatory?
Paul
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Larry Will wrote in message ...
Tom betka
<lar...@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us> wrote:
>
>Hi.
>
>I've got some drums that need to have the bearing edges re-cut. Can
>anyone recommend someone who does great work?
>
>In the past I've had Pork Pie and J&J Drum Restoration do some bearing
>edge work for me, and I wasn't satisfied with the results. Neither
>bothered to make sure the edges were level before shipping the drums back
>to me, and J&J didn't even sand the edges smooth after re-cutting them.
>
>I guess finding a good drum repair guy is as hard as finding a good auto
>mechanic.
>
>Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
Two words.... BERNIE STONE. Check the classifieds at the back of
Modern Drummer. He advertises under Custom Drum. I have had work done
by him in the past--awesome. His finishes are as good as, or better
than the factory in my experience. His bearing edges are done on a
mill--not with a router. This means that if your shells have any sflat
spots in them, the actual edge will not migrate outward or inward as
the router passes the flat spot. It's a big deal, believe
me--especially if the shell is very thin.
For example, I had a 16" Gretsch tom that I recovered to match a kit I
owned, but the edges needed to be recut. I had a local guy recut them
with a router kit bought from Stewart McDonald. Most of the edge
turned out great--except that there was a small flat spot that the
router table couldn't handle. The result was that the actual bearing
'edge' (the point of the bevel) came to about 1 mm or so from the edge
of the shell. I sent this drum to Bernie, and he ran it through his
milling machine...came back perfect. Drum sounded incredible.
BTW, Tell him hello for me...
Tom
Mike
with a table base bigger than the diameter of the drum. That way the whole
edge supports the drum as it is being cut.
I also sand a perfectly flat edge, before cutting. I make sure the drum is
true and flat, before cutting an edge. I also make sure both edges are
parallel to each other before cutting.
-MIKE-
Russell Lane
I recommend Sam Bacco. He did some work for me earlier this year, and his
work was absolutely flawless. Some of the other folks on RMMP can also vouch
for his work.
Sam's in Nashville, so you would need to ship your kit east. I'm sure there
are some folks closer to home, but if you decide to use Sam I can assure you
you will be pleased.
You can reach Sam at (615) 385-0305.
Good luck!
Larry Will wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've got some drums that need to have the bearing edges re-cut. Can
> anyone recommend someone who does great work?
>
> In the past I've had Pork Pie and J&J Drum Restoration do some bearing
> edge work for me, and I wasn't satisfied with the results. Neither
> bothered to make sure the edges were level before shipping the drums back
> to me, and J&J didn't even sand the edges smooth after re-cutting them.
>
> I guess finding a good drum repair guy is as hard as finding a good auto
> mechanic.
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> - Larold Will
--
Russell Lane
rus...@mediaone.net
B. Jacoby
Mike wrote:
> I don't like the set-up from Stew-Mac. I use a conventional router table
> with a table base bigger than the diameter of the drum. That way the whole
> edge supports the drum as it is being cut.
> I also sand a perfectly flat edge, before cutting. I make sure the drum is
> true and flat, before cutting an edge. I also make sure both edges are
> parallel to each other before cutting.
>
> -MIKE-
I use my own router setup and it works pretty good but Yeah, bumps or uneven
cuts or even the overlap in wrap (if you are cutting an already wrapped drum)
can cause unevenness in the cut. Obviously a skilled operator is aware of
these shortcomings and you compensate as you cut and then finish that area
slowly by hand. So it's not that a router *can't* work, but clearly a mill
setup is much better ... well except for the part about having to pay for the
investment in machinery out of what the person charges!
But my guess would be that in either case, the mill or the added hand work with
a router is gonna cost more for a first rate job.
Benj
tko
in many ways including his awesome work.
A visit to his shop is explaination enough. He has even aquired some of the
old machinery and tooling from extinct drum companies and uses it regularly,
(and he KNOWS how to use them!). Sam's work is second to none! His wraps and
custom sprays are done on site by Sam personally. It might take a little
longer than some, but it's well worth it!
He's done custom kits for local players as well as Gretsch, Pearl, and his
own line of drums that consistently blows anyone elses work out of the
water.
Tell him Rolff told you to call. He'll know exactly who you're talking
about.
Sam Bacco (pronounced bak' ko)
Advanced Percussion
615 385 0305
Good Luck!
tko
Russell Lane <rus...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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Shawn Martin
100...@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>,
Larry Will <lar...@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I've got some drums that need to have the bearing edges re-cut. Can
> anyone recommend someone who does great work?
>
> In the past I've had Pork Pie and J&J Drum Restoration do some bearing
> edge work for me, and I wasn't satisfied with the results. Neither
> bothered to make sure the edges were level before shipping the drums
back
> to me, and J&J didn't even sand the edges smooth after re-cutting
them.
>
> I guess finding a good drum repair guy is as hard as finding a good
auto
> mechanic.
Hi Larry,
I've never had Jeff Rowekamp (J&J) do edges before but he does great re-
covering work. Jim Petty at JP2 Creations does excellent edge
recutting and his prices are reasonable. He used to work for Brook
Mays in Austin. His website address is http://www.jp2creations.com/
--
Shawn Martin
America's Ace Drummer Man Gene Krupa!
http://crash.simplenet.com
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Before you buy.
jeff rowekamp
these replies, this is Jeff Rowekamp from J&J CUSTOM DRUMS. This is in
rebutle to our company's name in this newsgroup. We did exactly what the
customer instructed to do. For everyone's information, the work was done
nearly 3 months ago and I was never contacted by the customer after the job
was completed. I base my company on customer satisfaction and going above
and beyond the call of duty to make any wrong, right. The drums were shipped
to me with an edge so flat, there was not even an edge. We were instructed
to cut double 45's, sand and seal. I did all of these things, yes we even
sanded and sealed them after cutting them. I just wanted to clear my
company's name. I would expect any unhappy customer to notify me
immediately. Not 3 months after the fact and on a newsgroup for everyone to
see. Thank you for your time and thanks to all drummers who support and work
with J&J CUSTOM DRUMS.
Larry Will wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've got some drums that need to have the bearing edges re-cut. Can
> anyone recommend someone who does great work?
>
> In the past I've had Pork Pie and J&J Drum Restoration do some bearing
> edge work for me, and I wasn't satisfied with the results. Neither
> bothered to make sure the edges were level before shipping the drums back
> to me, and J&J didn't even sand the edges smooth after re-cutting them.
>
> I guess finding a good drum repair guy is as hard as finding a good auto
> mechanic.
>
Ian Anderson
look great.
Cheer's Ian
Tom Betka wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:12:14 -0500, jeff rowekamp <jjd...@fuse.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Greetings to all fellow drummers. In case anyone may get this far and read
> >these replies, this is Jeff Rowekamp from J&J CUSTOM DRUMS. This is in
> >rebutle to our company's name in this newsgroup. We did exactly what the
> >customer instructed to do. For everyone's information, the work was done
> >nearly 3 months ago and I was never contacted by the customer after the job
> >was completed. I base my company on customer satisfaction and going above
> >and beyond the call of duty to make any wrong, right. The drums were shipped
> >to me with an edge so flat, there was not even an edge. We were instructed
> >to cut double 45's, sand and seal. I did all of these things, yes we even
> >sanded and sealed them after cutting them. I just wanted to clear my
> >company's name. I would expect any unhappy customer to notify me
> >immediately. Not 3 months after the fact and on a newsgroup for everyone to
> >see. Thank you for your time and thanks to all drummers who support and work
> >with J&J CUSTOM DRUMS.
> >
>
> Hi Jeff...
>
> I would back this statement up 150%. I have had J&J do some work for
> me in the past. Jeff is professional, honest and stands behind his
> work.
>
> For example, I had him refinish some Yamaha drums for me, in Hot Red
> finish. The drums were a Cobalt Blue 10x10 tom and a Piano Black 10x12
> tom, both new from Yamaha. He matched them as close as he could, given
> the EPA laws of available materials in the state he was in. However,
> when the finish wasn't perfect (to my expectations) he *drove* to
> another state and purchased the correct material and refinished the
> drums a second time. Then shipped them to me--never charged me a dime
> above the original quote!!! I would not hesitate one second about
> having him do ANY other work for me.
>
> BTW, to view the drums check out this URL:
>
> http://www.discover-net.net/~tcbetka/drums1.jpg
>
> Now...tell me what drums he painted???
>
> Tom
Tom Betka
Mike
Excellent work, Jeff!
-MIKE-