Shania Twain
CJ Smith
personal opinions about Shania. Personnaly, I like her, her music, her
stage presence, her determination, courage, etc......Country music is
like any other type of music today in that it is constantly changing. I
think she has added a positive change. One opinion earlier was that she
used her looks to help her along......what's the old saying - If ya got
it....flaunt it - I kind of like it when she flaunts it!! ;-Ş
Chris
Findlay
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Sonic1
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CJ Smith wrote in message <36D5AA58...@mosquitonet.com>...
CJ Smith
Findlay wrote:
> >it....flaunt it - I kind of like it when she flaunts it!! ;-Ž
> >
> >Chris
> >
Findlay
house, blah, blah, blah. Let's just say she was a star before she was a
star.
CJ Smith wrote in message <36D5CB03...@mosquitonet.com>...
Findlay
famous and did!
STRATQUEEN wrote in message
<19990225210010...@ngol03.aol.com>...
>In article <bQmB2.3033$jf2.8...@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, "Findlay"
><fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>
>>I grew in the same town and used to hang out with her brother, sleep at
her
>>house, blah, blah, blah. Let's just say she was a star before she was a
>>star.
>>
>
>What town was that? Which years? Which brother? She's been singing and
>playing guitar since she was five. Big deal. Even then they all knew
she'd be
>a star, and both parents worked hard to help her make that happen.
>
>--Sharon
>
><A HREF="http://members.aol.com/STRATQUEEN/index.html">Stratqueen's
Page</A>
>
Findlay
Cinderella crap do you. HELLO!!! It's called a nice ass. It's called a
marketable ass! Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be
where she is today?
Michael Sheehan
Findlay wrote in message ...
>Huntsville Ontario Mark Twain 19?? You don't actually believe all that
>Cinderella crap do you. HELLO!!! It's called a nice ass.
Well, he is right about the ass.
nighthawk
> I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to be
> famous and did!
So?!? The music ain't too bad, and she's lookin' mighty fine while
making the music, so I'm not complaining...
darius
"Hick pride! It's kinda like gay pride, except we have shotguns!"
---dw
~*Freebird*~
SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990225231611...@ng-fv1.aol.com>...
>>>I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to
be
>>>famous and did!
>>>
>>
>>
>>--Sharon
>>
>
>No, she obviously slept with all those MILLIONS of people who buy her
records!
>
Excuse me while I go buy a Shania Twain record....
Rob
~*Freebird*~
SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990225231517...@ng-fv1.aol.com>...
>>I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to be
>>famous and did!
>>Sonic1
>
>You're not really as stupid as you seem, are you?
>
Nah, it was just a publicity stunt.
Rob
Findlay
1. Honest Real With Integrity
Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they stick
to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty $$$$$.
Deserve respect.
(ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
--
Sonic1
Sonic Revival Homepage
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SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990225231517...@ng-fv1.aol.com>...
>>I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to be
>>famous and did!
>>--
>>Sonic1
>
>You're not really as stupid as you seem, are you?
>
>
>SEFSTRAT
>
>(remove "nospam" from address for return email)
>
>webpage: http://members.aol.com/sefstrat/index.html/sefpage.html
STRATQUEEN
<fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>
>She's as fake as a 3 dollar bill. I'm saying this from personal experience.
>
You mean the experiences in your dreams?
STRATQUEEN
>I grew in the same town and used to hang out with her brother, sleep at her
>house, blah, blah, blah. Let's just say she was a star before she was a
>star.
>
What town was that? Which years? Which brother? She's been singing and
playing guitar since she was five. Big deal. Even then they all knew she'd be
a star, and both parents worked hard to help her make that happen.
--Sharon
Mike
booted up the computer, cracked their knuckles and uttered...:
> I would have never thought that so many people would have so many
>personal opinions about Shania. Personnaly, I like her, her music, her
>stage presence, her determination, courage, etc......Country music is
>like any other type of music today in that it is constantly changing. I
>think she has added a positive change. One opinion earlier was that she
>used her looks to help her along......what's the old saying - If ya got
>it....flaunt it - I kind of like it when she flaunts it!! ;-Ž
>
>Chris
>
Music schmoozic....She looked AWESOME on the Grammys last night.
Mike
micha...@NOSPAMmindspring.com
remove NOSPAM to reply by email...
My 1909
band w all goggles on their heads..what is that about...w/5 guitarists it still
was not very exciting...she married her producer like celine or mariah and
shania looked like a whore..sorry but you cant play the goody goody country
part and then look like a whore....but hey we all know sex sells and its who
you blow as well as who you know....come on people..would u let your daufghters
dress like her? and if u say hey for that much $$ i would then you are lame
too......
STRATQUEEN
1909) writes:
I thought she looked very sexy, but her outfit was over the top for that
performance. And the way she stood with her legs spread was a little
much...but the audience loved it. Oh well.
STRATQUEEN
<fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>
>I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to be
>famous and did!
>
Are you saying she slept with YOU to make it to the top?
--Sharon
SEFSTRAT
>famous and did!
SEFSTRAT
>>famous and did!
>>
>
>
>--Sharon
>
No, she obviously slept with all those MILLIONS of people who buy her records!
SEFSTRAT
>marketable ass! Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be
>where she is today?
>--
>Sonic1
Neither would a lot of rock bands, who hire people with "the look" they want.
Doesn;t mean that millions don';t buy her records, and listen to them, and her
stuff's aired onthe radio.
Boy, you ARE bitter.
STRATQUEEN
<fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>There are two kinds of musicians in MY world.>
What world is that? "La La Land"???
>1. Honest Real With Integrity
>Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they stick
>to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty $$$$$.
>Deserve respect.
>(ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
>
>2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
>Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
>companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
You can't possibly be as ignorant as your posts make you out to be. You're
either very young, or you're a single, lonely bitter adult male. If you'd
grown up hungry or had kids or a wife to support, you'd not be singing this
tune.
AuralFeast
Yeah, she's got butt, she's got boobs, but everytime I see her, I think Garth
Brooks in drag!
Sexy? Only for the lonely - those who get turned on by watching thighs and
cleavage on TV, and judging by her album sales, there are a lotof you. The
Playboy generation, or in Shania's case, the Hustler generation. Shania's sex
appeal is calculation to the Nth degree.
Art, obviously, is not for the masses.
Re the Grammys, I'm still wondering, who had more sex appeal, Shania or Rosie?
DJMangin
>Brooks in drag!
ROTFLMAO! you hit it right on the head there
>Re the Grammys, I'm still wondering, who had more sex appeal, Shania or
>Rosie?
Rosie, IMHO, but then again, like Dave Letterman, I like big girls!
SEFSTRAT
>
>Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they stick
>to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty $$$$$.
>Deserve respect.
>(ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
>
>2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
>Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
>companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
>Sonic1
Oh, yeah. Morrisette really "sold out".
You ARE nuts.
What color is the sky on "your world"?
Steve
My 1909
much...but the audience loved it. Oh well.
politically correct for them to like it....i would bet that on the drive home
that a great deal of them joked about not only her attire and talent but
madonnas as well
i mean speak of over the top......madonna looked like shit and sounded
lame...selling is not the issue here its how far one will go to sell......i
have way more respect for the older singers(some r dead) like billie
holliday/vaughn/shirly horn/ella fitzgerald...now those woman had talent( and
problems too....) but this new wave of women musicians....i just dont like all
the pushy sexual stuff.....dress s. twain in normal (non-stripper ) attire and
she wouldnt sell nearly as much..sure but she would have her dignity...and
less$$$ but mutt would take care of that.....at least madonna doesnt rely on a
man to put her on top...or put her even in the arena......again
mareiah.celine.shania...all did and do....just my opinion
My 1909
much
...but the audience loved it. Oh well.
about it.....
SEFSTRAT
Yeah, she's got butt, she's got boobs, but everytime I see her, I think Garth
Brooks in drag!
Sexy? Only for the lonely - those who get turned on by watching thighs and
cleavage on TV, and judging by her album sales, there are a lotof you. The
Playboy generation, or in Shania's case, the Hustler generation. Shania's sex
appeal is calculation to the Nth degree.
>>
She wrote "still the one". Pretty damn good tune, IMHO.
RJClayton
>
>1. Honest Real With Integrity
>Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they stick
>to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty $$$$$.
>Deserve respect.
>(ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
>
>2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
>Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
>companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
What does writing your own material have to do with it? Hell, damn few jazz
musicians write their own stuff -- what do you think "standards" are? And in
country, till recently, the "artist-writer" wasn't the whole enchilada, so the
best songs (in the eyes and ears of the artist and his agents & producers) were
used, no matter who wrote 'em. The only decent place for "outside" writers to
make a living these days, and even that's drying up.
I am not much for the "manufactured" groups, like the Spice Girls, etc., but at
least they are a market for songs by outside writers (how we reach 'em, that's
another rant).
And how about session musicians? They in group one or two? Hard put to have a
music industry without 'em, I'd say.
Bob (group one -- in MY world) Clayton, S.R.
Quality music since 1963.
Ron Thompson
>
> Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be where she is today?
Dan Stanley is a chubby, plain looking, big plastic mouse and he's in Dokken.
--
rct
The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
STRATQUEEN
(RJClayton) writes:
>And how about session musicians? They in group one or two? Hard put to have
>a
>music industry without 'em, I'd say.
>
Absolutely. In country music the normal path seems to be that a group of
songwriters churn out the hits, the stars perform them, session artists are
hired just for the studio work, and others are hired to go on the road -- thus
being put to the test (i.e., can I live up to Brent Mason's studio chops!).
STRATQUEEN
sefs...@aol.comnospam (SEFSTRAT) writes:
>
>She wrote "still the one". Pretty damn good tune, IMHO.
>
It's a very good song, and a beautifully filmed video. Have you ever seen her
perform it acoustically with her band? I did, and it sounds even more
romantic.
mc...@vms.cis.pitt.edu
> Findlay wrote:
>>
>> Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be where she is today?
>
> Dan Stanley is a chubby, plain looking, big plastic mouse and he's in Dokken.
> --
> rct
Are you saying that if Shania were plain looking and chubby that
she would be Stevie Dan?
Mickey
Andrew P. Mullhaupt
mc...@vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote in message
<7b6heh$346$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>...
>In article <36D6BF...@admin.tc.faa.gov>, Ron Thompson
<thom...@admin.tc.faa.gov> writes:
>> Findlay wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be where she is
today?
>>
>> Dan Stanley is a chubby, plain looking, big plastic mouse and he's in
Dokken.
>
>she would be Stevie Dan?
No, he's saying if she was plain looking and chubby that she'd be in Dokken.
Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
STRATQUEEN
writes:
>Are you saying that if Shania were plain looking and chubby that
>she would be Stevie Dan?
>
Nope. She's too tall.
Brian Rost
>
> There are two kinds of musicians in MY world.
>
> 1. Honest Real With Integrity
>
> material.
Why is writing a song such a big deal to everyone?
Is this just some sort of creeping disease amongst the general
population, to believe that the ability to write a song is what
separates REAL musicians from the wannabes?
Gimme a break....
Please go read "Mansion on the Hill" by Fred Goodman.
--
Brian Rost
3Com Corp.
978-264-1550
br...@synnet.com
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Dave
STRATQUEEN wrote:
> In article <zwiB2.2066$jf2.7...@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, "Findlay"
> <fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>
> >
> >She's as fake as a 3 dollar bill. I'm saying this from personal experience.
> >
>
> You mean the experiences in your dreams?
>
> --Sharon
>
> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/STRATQUEEN/index.html">Stratqueen's Page</A>
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likes a nice ass. Shania can't help what she looks like.
Dave
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Findlay wrote:
> Huntsville Ontario Mark Twain 19?? You don't actually believe all that
> Cinderella crap do you. HELLO!!! It's called a nice ass. It's called a
> marketable ass! Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be
> where she is today?
> --
>
Findlay
albums! I guess you two are too old to appreciate integrity and would
gladly (or already have) sold your soul for a $1.00. Hell your a lawyer
aren't you Sef. I rest my case your honor. No soul there.
All I'm saying is this:
Shania Twain is a sham. A plastic created star. She lied about being
Native. Her name is Eileen. When her parents died she got scads of money.
She moved bought a fancy house, fancy ride. Sang show tunes at a Vegas
resort. (I've seen her do "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" Made a demo of
Allanah Myhles rock/pop songs. Got discovered by Mutt (They don't call him
Mutt for nothing) Lange. Dumped her boyfriend. Changed her name. Changed
her style of music. (I never heard her listen to country) Married
aforementioned ugly rich connected guy. And sold out.
She's never toured. The only live she ever does is strategically planned
showcases, TV specials and awards shows. You can see the planning of her
career it's so obvious. What's the easiest market to break into - Country-
Who has the most loyal fans - Country - As soon as she started getting
famous she started going more pop. Christ there's dance remixes of her
songs. She's done duets with the Backstreet Boys. Next thing you know
she'll be acting in movies and dueting with Bryan Adams on the Titanic 2
soundtrack. Mark my words!
The closest comparison I can make to her type of musician is a politician.
They'll do anything to stay in power.
The reson I say all this is because I knew her and she was a stuck up bitch.
If you believe all this "I feel so guilty eating well when there's so many
less fortunate people in the world" CRAP then you are a grade-A-
sucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Sonic1
Sonic Revival Homepage
www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990226094449...@ng115.aol.com>...
>>There are two kinds of musicians in MY world.
>>
>>1. Honest Real With Integrity
>>Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they stick
>>to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty
$$$$$.
>>Deserve respect.
>>(ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
>>
>>2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
>>Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
>>companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
>>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
>>--
>>Sonic1
>
>Oh, yeah. Morrisette really "sold out".
>
>You ARE nuts.
>
>What color is the sky on "your world"?
>
CJ Smith
you'd have rather been hanging with her and not her brother?
Findlay wrote:
> Huntsville Ontario Mark Twain 19?? You don't actually believe all that
> Cinderella crap do you. HELLO!!! It's called a nice ass. It's called a
> marketable ass! Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd be
> where she is today?
> --
> Sonic1
> Sonic Revival Homepage
> www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
>
> STRATQUEEN wrote in message
> <19990225210010...@ngol03.aol.com>...
> >In article <bQmB2.3033$jf2.8...@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>, "Findlay"
> ><fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
> >
> >>I grew in the same town and used to hang out with her brother, sleep at
> her
> >>house, blah, blah, blah. Let's just say she was a star before she was a
> >>star.
> >>
> >
> >What town was that? Which years? Which brother? She's been singing and
> >playing guitar since she was five. Big deal. Even then they all knew
> she'd be
> >a star, and both parents worked hard to help her make that happen.
CJ Smith
SEFSTRAT wrote:
> >I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to be
> >famous and did!
> >--
> >Sonic1
>
> You're not really as stupid as you seem, are you?
>
CJ Smith
voice and can sing. I think talent had a lot to do with where she is today.
CJ Smith
~*Freebird*~ wrote:
> SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990225231611...@ng-fv1.aol.com>...
> >>>I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to
> be
> >>>famous and did!
> >>>
> >>
> >>Are you saying she slept with YOU to make it to the top?
> >>
> >>--Sharon
> >>
> >
> >No, she obviously slept with all those MILLIONS of people who buy her
> records!
> >
>
> Excuse me while I go buy a Shania Twain record....
>
> Rob
CJ Smith
There's dance remixes of MANY country songs.
I guarantee she shot you down in your youth and made you go home alone and that
has caused all of this useless, bitter energy towards her.
You're a classic Freud study! Grow up.
J...
> And the way she stood with her legs spread was a little
> much
The whole band was doing that stance thing... She looked like she thinking
about holding that stance more than thinking about singing the song.
Outt..
Jeff.
My 1909
you all act like she is a GOD ..maybe he turned her down...jez....and y is it
about sex and dating? hell if this guy knew her growing up could be she is a 2
faced lying spoiled bitch....i mean come-on....just because a person is a star
doesnt mean they are or were a decent person in their life......MAN....sure he
could be lying as well...but remember there are 2 sides to every story....and
besides...if what he says is even 1/4 true this shania or eileen or whatever
her name is ,is a trypical pompous ass.....what if any of you were this
boyfriend who got dumped for fame? what a shit ass thing to do...everyone has
a past people...there are no saints
STRATQUEEN
<fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>The reson I say all this is because I knew her and she was a stuck up bitch.
>If you believe all this "I feel so guilty eating well when there's so many
>less fortunate people in the world" CRAP then you are a grade-A-
>sucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
Who cares? It's her life and she's making the most out of it. If she's a
phony SHE has to live with that, not me. I just enjoy her music.
Hell, I love SRV's music and he was a wife beater! BB King neglected most of
his children, by his own admission, and met one of his daughters at a jail
where she's incarcerated. Jerry Lee Lewis was practically an incestuous
pedophile. Jaco was an aggressive bastard who got himself killed. So what? I
try not to make it a practice of judging an artist by his/her "bad habits" or
bad reputation.
STRATQUEEN
1909) writes:
>hell if this guy knew her growing up could be she is a 2
>faced lying spoiled bitch....i mean come-on....just because a person is a
>star
>doesnt mean they are or were a decent person in their life......MAN....sure
>he
>could be lying as well...but remember there are 2 sides to every story....and
>besides...if what he says is even 1/4 true this shania or eileen or whatever
>her name is ,is a trypical pompous ass.....what if any of you were this
>boyfriend who got dumped for fame? what a shit ass thing to do...everyone
>has
>a past people...there are no saints
Well, she's been up front about the fact her parents spoiled her and pushed her
career from the time she was 5 or so. She's also been up front about the fact
she was born with the name "Eileen", but the record company wanted her to
change her name. She refused to change her last name because she felt it would
be disrespectful to her adoptive dad, so she changed her first name to Shania
(in her dad's Native tongue means, "on my way". I agree with her; "Shania
Twain" is a cool name. My kids are Native American, too. ;-)
STRATQUEEN
>why does every one think this findley guy was turned down by shania? i mean
>you all act like she is a GOD ..maybe he turned her down...jez
Because he's obviously so bitter, he would have let us all know he'd scored so
he could try to make her look even more like a "whore."
Donald Put
> What color is the sky on "your world"?
Sky? Sky? You mean there's something on the other side of those clouds?
Cheers,
--
Don
Idyllwild Brewing Company (home-brewed beer and tube guitar amps)
Donald Put
> Are you saying that if Shania were plain looking and chubby that
> she would be Stevie Dan?
No, but she might have to get off using a Steely Dan.
Janice Brodowsky
read this stuff I had to join in. I completely agree with Sharon. Isn't it
interesting that men can get away with all sorts of crap, and women have to be the
Virgin Mary in order to not be judged. It's that old double standard again...when
men are successful, they are admired. This holds true even if they have a
questionable past. When a woman is successful, then people try to find all sorts of
reasons why she is a "slut," "bitch," and "she had to have slept with someone to
get where she is." Of course, then there has to be commentary on a woman's anatomy.
This infuriates me, and I'd better stop before I blow a gasket.
STRATQUEEN wrote:
> Who cares? It's her life and she's making the most out of it. If she's a
> phony SHE has to live with that, not me. I just enjoy her music.
>
> Hell, I love SRV's music and he was a wife beater! BB King neglected most of
> his children, by his own admission, and met one of his daughters at a jail
> where she's incarcerated. Jerry Lee Lewis was practically an incestuous
> pedophile. Jaco was an aggressive bastard who got himself killed. So what? I
> try not to make it a practice of judging an artist by his/her "bad habits" or
> bad reputation.
>
SEFSTRAT
>it
>2
>faced lying spoiled bitch....i mean come-on....just because a person is a
>star
>doesnt mean they are or were a decent person in their life......MAN....sure
>he
>could be lying as well...but remember there are 2 sides to every story....and
>besides...if what he says is even 1/4 true this shania or eileen or whatever
>her name is ,is a trypical pompous ass.....what if any of you were this
>boyfriend who got dumped for fame? what a shit ass thing to do...everyone
>has
>a past people...there are no saints
>
>From: my1...@aol.com (My 1909)
And your point would be.........?
Steve
STRATQUEEN
<jbrod...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> Isn't it interesting that men can get away with all sorts of crap,
> and women have to be the Virgin Mary in order to not be judged.
> It's that old double standard again.
You said it, Janice. A lot of men are intimidated by beautiful, sexy,
confident, successful and/or ambitious women. Findlay is just a bitter
reminder of the sour grapes syndrome.
SEFSTRAT
Native. Her name is Eileen. When her parents died she got scads of money.
She moved bought a fancy house, fancy ride. Sang show tunes at a Vegas
resort. (I've seen her do "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" Made a demo of
Allanah Myhles rock/pop songs. Got discovered by Mutt (They don't call him
Mutt for nothing) Lange. Dumped her boyfriend. Changed her name. Changed
her style of music. (I never heard her listen to country) Married
aforementioned ugly rich connected guy. And sold out.
She's never toured. The only live she ever does is strategically planned
showcases, TV specials and awards shows. You can see the planning of her
career it's so obvious. What's the easiest market to break into - Country-
Who has the most loyal fans - Country - As soon as she started getting
famous she started going more pop. Christ there's dance remixes of her
songs. She's done duets with the Backstreet Boys. Next thing you know
she'll be acting in movies and dueting with Bryan Adams on the Titanic 2
soundtrack. Mark my words!>>>
Your envy is palpable.
How sad.
Anthony Robinson
D.H. wrote in message <36D6E4E...@flash.net>...
> Everyone likes a nice ass.
Is this where the smooth buttocks of RMMG comes in to play?
-Anthony
Findlay
Findlay wrote in message ...
>Sorry I'll just let you two go back to your Celine Dion and Rod Stewart
>albums! I guess you two are too old to appreciate integrity and would
>gladly (or already have) sold your soul for a $1.00. Hell your a lawyer
>aren't you Sef. I rest my case your honor. No soul there.
>All I'm saying is this:
>Shania Twain is a sham. A plastic created star. She lied about being
>Native. Her name is Eileen. When her parents died she got scads of money.
>She moved bought a fancy house, fancy ride. Sang show tunes at a Vegas
>resort. (I've seen her do "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" Made a demo of
>Allanah Myhles rock/pop songs. Got discovered by Mutt (They don't call him
>Mutt for nothing) Lange. Dumped her boyfriend. Changed her name. Changed
>her style of music. (I never heard her listen to country) Married
>aforementioned ugly rich connected guy. And sold out.
>She's never toured. The only live she ever does is strategically planned
>showcases, TV specials and awards shows. You can see the planning of her
>career it's so obvious. What's the easiest market to break into - Country-
>Who has the most loyal fans - Country - As soon as she started getting
>famous she started going more pop. Christ there's dance remixes of her
>songs. She's done duets with the Backstreet Boys. Next thing you know
>she'll be acting in movies and dueting with Bryan Adams on the Titanic 2
>soundtrack. Mark my words!
>The closest comparison I can make to her type of musician is a politician.
>They'll do anything to stay in power.
>The reson I say all this is because I knew her and she was a stuck up
bitch.
>If you believe all this "I feel so guilty eating well when there's so many
>less fortunate people in the world" CRAP then you are a grade-A-
>sucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>--
>Sonic1
>Sonic Revival Homepage
>www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
>
>SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990226094449...@ng115.aol.com>...
>>>There are two kinds of musicians in MY world.
>>>
>>>1. Honest Real With Integrity
>>>Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they
stick
>>>to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty
>$$$$$.
>>>Deserve respect.
>>>(ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
>>>
>>>2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
>>>Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
>>>companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
>>>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>>>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
>>>--
>>>Sonic1
>>
>>Oh, yeah. Morrisette really "sold out".
>>
>>You ARE nuts.
>>
>>What color is the sky on "your world"?
>>
>>Steve
Findlay
is whether I "scored" or not? Grow up. I'm 25 how old are you. Have you
been watching too much Beavis and Butthead?
CJ Smith wrote in message <36D71E73...@mosquitonet.com>...
>> Christ there's dance remixes of her songs.
>
Findlay
used to steal her truck with her brother though.
CJ Smith wrote in message <36D71A23...@mosquitonet.com>...
>I'll have to disagree with you. It even sounds like you're a bit jealous.
Maybe
>you'd have rather been hanging with her and not her brother?
>
>Findlay wrote:
>
>> Huntsville Ontario Mark Twain 19?? You don't actually believe all that
>> Cinderella crap do you. HELLO!!! It's called a nice ass. It's called a
>> marketable ass! Do you think if she was plain looking and chubby she'd
be
>> where she is today?
>> --
>> Sonic1
>> Sonic Revival Homepage
>> www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
>>
>> STRATQUEEN wrote in message
>> <19990225210010...@ngol03.aol.com>...
>> >In article <bQmB2.3033$jf2.8...@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>,
"Findlay"
>> ><fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>> >
>> >>I grew in the same town and used to hang out with her brother, sleep at
>> her
>> >>house, blah, blah, blah. Let's just say she was a star before she was
a
>> >>star.
>> >>
>> >
>> >What town was that? Which years? Which brother? She's been singing
and
>> >playing guitar since she was five. Big deal. Even then they all knew
>> she'd be
>> >a star, and both parents worked hard to help her make that happen.
>> >
Findlay
whore as in good to go.
CJ Smith wrote in message <36D71A9C...@mosquitonet.com>...
The Wilsons
(ughhhhhhh!)
AuralFeast wrote in message
<19990226083458...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
>Shania? The IceQueen.
>
>Yeah, she's got butt, she's got boobs, but everytime I see her, I think
Garth
>Brooks in drag!
>
>Sexy? Only for the lonely - those who get turned on by watching thighs and
>cleavage on TV, and judging by her album sales, there are a lotof you. The
>Playboy generation, or in Shania's case, the Hustler generation. Shania's
sex
>appeal is calculation to the Nth degree.
>
>Art, obviously, is not for the masses.
>
>Re the Grammys, I'm still wondering, who had more sex appeal, Shania or
Rosie?
Scott M Smith
Findlay wrote in message ...
>famous and did!
You sound extremely jealous!!!! I would have been sleeping with her, and
not her brother , when I was over...
Scotty
Scott M Smith
Findlay wrote in message ...
Yeah!!!! But I'd still F@#K her...
Scotty
Scott M Smith
>
>Who cares? It's her life and she's making the most out of it. If she's a
>phony SHE has to live with that, not me. I just enjoy her music.
>
>Hell, I love SRV's music and he was a wife beater! BB King neglected most
of
>his children, by his own admission, and met one of his daughters at a jail
>where she's incarcerated. Jerry Lee Lewis was practically an incestuous
>pedophile. Jaco was an aggressive bastard who got himself killed. So
what? I
>try not to make it a practice of judging an artist by his/her "bad habits"
or
>bad reputation.
>
>
>--Sharon
>
Alleged, wife beater. BTW, he didn't do those kinds of things anymore after
he was clean and sober. He was a very nice and engaging person once all the
booze and drugs were long gone from his system. No more alcohol to be the
accelerant to violence, so I guess he learned from his mistakes...
Scotty
evil twinŽ
(STRATQUEEN) wrote:
>In article <36D77899...@worldnet.att.net>, Janice Brodowsky
><jbrod...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>> Isn't it interesting that men can get away with all sorts of crap,
>> and women have to be the Virgin Mary in order to not be judged.
>> It's that old double standard again.
>
>You said it, Janice. A lot of men are intimidated by beautiful, sexy,
>confident, successful and/or ambitious women. Findlay is just a bitter
>reminder of the sour grapes syndrome.
Well, you seem to want to have it both ways. You want us to
believe all of the above, but then you also want us to
believe that she's struggled and suffered, and that we
should empathize with her plight, and that she's somehow a
rebel.
Sorry. She's not rebellious. She hasn't suffered. There's no
double standard involved, because she's mostly boring and
only becomes irritating enough to post about when people try
to pass her calculated pose off as reality.
You made her lifestyle the topic of conversation here,
ostensibly because her music is too shallow for discussion
by itself, and then you got pissed when somebody else judged
her.
Will Borgeson
: You said it, Janice. A lot of men are intimidated by beautiful, sexy,
: confident, successful and/or ambitious women. Findlay is just a bitter
: reminder of the sour grapes syndrome.
:
: --Sharon
Everyone needs to remember that most aspects of the entertainment
business...music, movies...can be considered these very tall, very narrow
pyramids; the people who get to the top aren't necessarily the most
talented. It certainly helps to be what's generally perceived as
good-looking. But often they are merely the most driven, bordering on
obsessive. Once they get to the top, they want to stay there. Usually,
in every facet of entertainment, there are legions of very talented folks
who aspire to success but can't get a foothold because the few slots at
the top are already taken, and the occupants are figuratively stomping on
their fingers. For example, it is virtually impossible to get a movie
screenplay read by a top producer, unless you're already a successful
screenwriter. Very hard to even get a good agent. People go through some
amazing, James Bond-style efforts to get a script to certain producers and
actors. This works on rare occasions, for example the Redford flick
"Horse Whisperer" was penned by an unknown, but for the most part until
you have a track record, no one wants to hear from you. The same is true
of the music industry. For every successful but not vastly talented
artist or group...Hanson for example, or Courtney Love...there are
hundreds of more talented people and groups who are beating their heads
and demo tapes against the glass ceiling. A few will get lucky but most
won't.
My take is that most guys aren't at all intimidated by beautiful, sexy
and/or confident women. Most guys relish that kind of woman. What guys
are (intelligently) intimidated by are women who are ambitious to the
point of obsession, who will do anything, be anything, walk over anyone to
grab the gold ring. I admire persistence, but some go beyond that to get
to the top.
Will
Paul Brannon
TOURING band, so yes, she had played live before all the mega-hype started.
Paul
Will Borgeson
: Hell, I love SRV's music and he was a wife beater! BB King neglected most of
: his children, by his own admission, and met one of his daughters at a jail
: where she's incarcerated. Jerry Lee Lewis was practically an incestuous
: pedophile. Jaco was an aggressive bastard who got himself killed. So what? I
: try not to make it a practice of judging an artist by his/her "bad habits" or
: bad reputation.
Yes, when we start rejecting artists for their past or present
personal habits, we end up with a pretty small playlist!
Will
Polfus
>From: "Scott M Smith"
>Yeah!!!! But I'd still F@#K her...
>
>Scotty
Me too!
BYE!
STRATQUEEN
Borgeson) writes:
>My take is that most guys aren't at all intimidated by beautiful, sexy
>and/or confident women. Most guys relish that kind of woman. What guys
>are (intelligently) intimidated by are women who are ambitious to the
>point of obsession, who will do anything, be anything, walk over anyone to
>grab the gold ring. I admire persistence, but some go beyond that to get
>to the top.
>
Well, I'm talking from personal experience and from the experience of my two
best friends, who are both 6' or taller, and highly respected professionals in
their fields. We all possess most of the qualities I listed, and men often find
us unapproachable.
But I agree with you that those who are driven to the point of obsession by
their ambitions are a HUGE turn-off to me -- whether they're male *or* female.
STRATQUEEN
writes:
>
>Well, you seem to want to have it both ways. You want us to
>believe all of the above, but then you also want us to
>believe that she's struggled and suffered, and that we
>should empathize with her plight, and that she's somehow a
>rebel.
I believe she *did* struggle when she was younger. But the fact she survived
through it all and came out shining just goes to prove my point. She's
ambitious, driven, and a survivor.
>Sorry. She's not rebellious. She hasn't suffered. There's no
>double standard involved, because she's mostly boring and
>only becomes irritating enough to post about when people try
>to pass her calculated pose off as reality.
Taking into county Nashville standards, she is a rebel of sorts.
Be honest, Sean. You don't know whether she's suffered or not.
If my parents had died when I was her age, I'd be devastated.
Then having to raise siblings as young as hers; a HUGE
responsibility...I'd have done it, but it wouldn't be easy.
>You made her lifestyle the topic of conversation here,
>ostensibly because her music is too shallow for discussion
>by itself, and then you got pissed when somebody else judged
>her.
>
Bullshit, Sean. I commented on her performance and then others proceeded to
immediately jump on that, personally attacking her lifestyle and business
methods.
I don't think she's an excellent songwriter or singer, but I think she's a GOOD
one, and I enjoy her music a lot. I am most impressed with the overall package
as "entertainer." If you don't like her, that's your choice. I'm sure she's
not going to lose any sleep over some people here boycotting her records.
STRATQUEEN
<sco...@stratoman.com> writes:
>
>Alleged, wife beater. BTW, he didn't do those kinds of things anymore after
>he was clean and sober. He was a very nice and engaging person once all the
>booze and drugs were long gone from his system. No more alcohol to be the
>accelerant to violence, so I guess he learned from his mistakes...
>
Absolutely. Everyone said the beatings stopped once he cleaned up. I loved
SRV and seeing video of his funeral still causes me to tear up. Remember that
old saying: "Instant Asshole: Just add alcohol." My ex had a t-shirt when
he was young.
STRATQUEEN
writes:
>
>Hey , if you've got it , flaunt it ! Imagine if Rosie had done it
>(ughhhhhhh!)
>
Hey, Rosie may not be a "visual feast" but she's funny as hell and she always
makes me laugh when she makes up those stupid songs and does her impressions
(e.g., Elvis' mother tucking him in, Alanis Morissette).
STRATQUEEN
<fin...@sprint.ca> writes:
>I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion here and all you can talk about
>is whether I "scored" or not? Grow up. I'm 25 how old are you. Have you
>been watching too much Beavis and Butthead?
>
No wonder you thought she was stuck up, then. You are several years younger
than she, so she probably didn't even know you were alive in those days.
That's normal, dude. I wouldn't take it so personally.
Of course, this is all based upon the assumption that you were telling the
truth when you said you knew her growing up. Hey, but I've seen stranger
things happen here.
STRATQUEEN
strat...@aol.comNOSPAM (STRATQUEEN) writes:
>Well, I'm talking from personal experience and from the experience of my two
>best friends, who are both 6' or taller, and highly respected professionals
>in
>their fields. We all possess most of the qualities I listed, and men often
>find
>us unapproachable.
>But I agree with you that those who are driven to the point of obsession by
>their ambitions are a HUGE turn-off to me -- whether they're male *or*
>female.
>
I forgot to add something to that post. To prove my point, ask SEF or anyone
in his band their first impression the first time I walked through the door at
one of their gigs. First impressions can be killer.
Chip of Known Space
wrote:
>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
I think there's a bit more integrity with Morrisette than the rest; a
reluctant artist, perhaps.
Chip McDonald
]]] Chip McDonald - ch...@mindspring.com
]]] "Try to be reasonable whenever possible"
]]] http://www.mindspring.com/~chipm/chip.htm
]]] I teach guitar - check out http://www.mindspring.com/~chipm/lessons.htm
]]] Musician, voracious reader, overly contemplative thinker, punching bag for fate.
]]] "People think I'm in my own world; that's ok, they know me there" - J. Hodgson
Chip of Known Space
wrote:
>You're all on glue!
I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue...
The point you should be positing, though is: "would she be as popular
if she looked like k.d. lang?"
Polfus
>From: ch...@mindspring.com (Chip of Known Space)
>
>>You're all on glue!
>
>I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue...
LOL! I say that kinda thing all the time..I loved "Airplane!" like crazy !
Polfus
My 1909
be disrespectful to her adoptive dad, so she changed her first name to Shania
(in her dad's Native tongue means, "on my way". I agree with her; "Shania
Twain" is a cool name. My kids are Native American, too.
yea..its trendy/hip to have native american names.....i am 50% cherokee and i
am sick of all the bs surrounding people who really dont know jack about their
culture or others culture but who steal and use these trendy names to make
themselves seem more connected to the earth or spiritual or some other
crap...it sickens me to hear so and so name their kid morning star or whatever
cause they have this image that their kid will be special then or more
spirituAl....well its bassically just the PARENTS ego and dilluted fantasys
which lead to this trendy bullshit fad....believe it or not it is a huge
disrespect to native americans everywhere....now the white nam takes our
names...first our land then our spirit whats left? our names...which
carry our essence and yes they will take those as well...for their own
selfserving purposes......face it its using native americans...AGAIN!!!! OF
COURSE MOST WONT SEE THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.... their egos r tooo big and
their hearts too small
STRATQUEEN
of Known Space) writes:
>
>The point you should be positing, though is: "would she be as popular
>if she looked like k.d. lang?"
>
Are you saying Shania Twain is a L-E-S-B-I-A-N?? <G>
Janice Brodowsky
-janice
STRATQUEEN
1909) writes:
>i am 50% cherokee and i
>am sick of all the bs surrounding people who really dont know jack about
>their
>culture or others culture but who steal and use these trendy names to make
>themselves seem more connected to the earth or spiritual or some other
>crap...it sickens me to hear so and so name their kid morning star or
>whatever
>cause they have this image that their kid will be special then or more
>spirituAl....well its bassically just the PARENTS ego and dilluted fantasys
>which lead to this trendy bullshit fad.
My kids are Passamaquoddy, from a northern Maine tribe. They don't have Native
American names, but we were invited up to Maine for their HUGE inter-tribal
powwow this summer for a special "rite of passage" ritual where they would be
given traditional Passamaquoddy names. The only reason I'm even considering
this is because my daughter is intent on discovering and researching her
heritage, and my son has a growing interest.
I went to undergrad with the son of that tribe's Governor, and he convinced me
that the kids should be exposed to their culture and then have the right to
make the decision themselves (i.e., whether they want to pursue discovery of
their heritage, etc.). My kids are not into it for the "being Native American
makes me cool" factor. They have always been interested. Probably because my
youngest sister is considered an expert on tribal culture, so they've been
exposed to all this on a regular basis.
BTW, to keep this even barely on topic, my friend from that tribe (Jake) is an
awesome acoustic guitarist.
evil twinŽ
(STRATQUEEN) wrote:
> ha...@primary.net (evil twin®) writes:
>
>>Well, you seem to want to have it both ways. You want us to
>>believe all of the above, but then you also want us to
>>believe that she's struggled and suffered, and that we
>>should empathize with her plight, and that she's somehow a
>>rebel.
>
>I believe she *did* struggle when she was younger.
Then you're her target audience.
>But the fact she survived
>through it all and came out shining just goes to prove my point. She's
>ambitious, driven, and a survivor.
She's phony.
>>Sorry. She's not rebellious. She hasn't suffered. There's no
>>double standard involved, because she's mostly boring and
>>only becomes irritating enough to post about when people try
>>to pass her calculated pose off as reality.
>
>Taking into county Nashville standards, she is a rebel of sorts.
Not really. Nashville's always had its share of people who
make her life, if you accept the official version of it,
look like Leave It To Beaver.
>Be honest, Sean. You don't know whether she's suffered or not.
And I really don't care. All the suffering in the world
isn't going to make me admire her mediocrity.
>If my parents had died when I was her age, I'd be devastated.
>Then having to raise siblings as young as hers; a HUGE
>responsibility...I'd have done it, but it wouldn't be easy.
I'm sorry... How does this bear on her talents as a musical
performer?
>>You made her lifestyle the topic of conversation here,
>>ostensibly because her music is too shallow for discussion
>>by itself, and then you got pissed when somebody else judged
>>her.
>
>Bullshit, Sean. I commented on her performance and then others proceeded to
>immediately jump on that, personally attacking her lifestyle and business
>methods.
No, I seem to remember you making some kind of point about
her supposedly shocking lifestyle, and how it inspired envy
and anger in the traditional Nashvillites. On the other
hand, I find everything about her to be calculated, tame,
and unoriginal - even by Nashville standards.
I have no doubt that she has a team of publicists dreaming
this bio stuff up and feeding it to the Entertainment
Tonight culture, and when it comes back to bite her on the
ass, I don't feel the least bit sorry for her.
>I don't think she's an excellent songwriter or singer,
Me either.
Bye.
Will Borgeson
: The point you should be positing, though is: "would she be as popular
: if she looked like k.d. lang?"
kd lang may well have the best voice in the biz, with the possible
exception of L. Ronstadt...but I think the problem with kd isn't her
looks, it's her material. The breathless lesbo stuff leaves most folks
cold. With the exception of "Big Boned Gal", "Absolute Torch & Twang" is
one of the very best records ever made, imo, but since then - while the
voice is still everything it ever was - the material is the pits. No
offense intended, but a lot of gay folks have this tendency to view
everything through a sexual haze - this is off-putting, even for the
perpetually horny.
Will
Will Borgeson
: I think there's a bit more integrity with Morrisette than the rest; a
: reluctant artist, perhaps.
Integrity - perhaps. Reluctant - perhaps. Artist? Not to my ear and
brain. Talent? Ditto. imo, of course.
Will
Will Borgeson
: In article <7b950q$egm$1...@mark.ucdavis.edu>, szbo...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Will
: Borgeson) writes:
:
: >My take is that most guys aren't at all intimidated by beautiful, sexy
: >and/or confident women. Most guys relish that kind of woman. What guys
: >are (intelligently) intimidated by are women who are ambitious to the
: >point of obsession, who will do anything, be anything, walk over anyone to
: >grab the gold ring. I admire persistence, but some go beyond that to get
: >to the top.
: >
:
: Well, I'm talking from personal experience and from the experience of my two
: best friends, who are both 6' or taller, and highly respected professionals in
: their fields. We all possess most of the qualities I listed, and men often find
: us unapproachable.
I thought we were talking about beautiful, sexy and/or confident.
I don't remember the tallness thing. Guys may well feel intimidated by
women that tower over them. But not, in my experience, by any combination
of beautiful, sexy and/or confident. Those are all major turn-ons, as is
having a functional brain, being fun to talk with. Highly respected
professionals? I'd call that pretty neutral re: attractiveness.
Will
evil twinŽ
of Known Space) wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:09:03 -0800, "Findlay" <fin...@sprint.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>You're all on glue!
>
>I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue...
>
>The point you should be positing, though is: "would she be as popular
>if she looked like k.d. lang?"
No. k.d. lang looks like k.d. lang and look at her career.
evil twinŽ
(Will Borgeson) wrote:
>Chip of Known Space (ch...@mindspring.com) wrote:
>
>: The point you should be positing, though is: "would she be as popular
>: if she looked like k.d. lang?"
>
> kd lang may well have the best voice in the biz, with the possible
>exception of L. Ronstadt...but I think the problem with kd isn't her
>looks, it's her material. The breathless lesbo stuff leaves most folks
>cold.
Speak for yourself. Lebos REWL!
>With the exception of "Big Boned Gal", "Absolute Torch & Twang" is
>one of the very best records ever made, imo, but since then - while the
>voice is still everything it ever was - the material is the pits. No
>offense intended, but a lot of gay folks have this tendency to view
>everything through a sexual haze -
I don't think gay folks are the only ones that do that.
Could just be me though...
M_S_R
Findlay wrote in message
<28qB2.4006$jf2.1...@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>...
(snip)
>2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
>Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
>companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
>material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
>(ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
>--
>Sonic1
>Sonic Revival Homepage
>www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
>
(snip again)
M_S_R
STRATQUEEN wrote in message
<19990226235845...@ngol05.aol.com>...
>In article <36D77899...@worldnet.att.net>, Janice Brodowsky
><jbrod...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>> Isn't it interesting that men can get away with all sorts of crap,
>> and women have to be the Virgin Mary in order to not be judged.
>> It's that old double standard again.
>
>confident, successful and/or ambitious women. Findlay is just a bitter
>reminder of the sour grapes syndrome.
They turn me on...that's why I married one.
IMO the gripe here seems to be related to the fact that record companies
have become soul-less heart-less corporations. The music *business* is no
different than any other business today. It's run by corporations, and
therefore, corporate culture rules. You don't see fat ugly women (or men)
pitching clothes, cars, the news, or anything, except for comic relief.
Don't expect the music *industry* to be any different.
Beautiful music for beautiful people leading beautiful lives.
evil twinŽ
(STRATQUEEN) wrote:
>In article <7b950q$egm$1...@mark.ucdavis.edu>, szbo...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu (Will
>Borgeson) writes:
>
>>My take is that most guys aren't at all intimidated by beautiful, sexy
>>and/or confident women. Most guys relish that kind of woman. What guys
>>are (intelligently) intimidated by are women who are ambitious to the
>>point of obsession, who will do anything, be anything, walk over anyone to
>>grab the gold ring. I admire persistence, but some go beyond that to get
>>to the top.
>>
>
>Well, I'm talking from personal experience and from the experience of my two
>best friends, who are both 6' or taller, and highly respected professionals in
>their fields.
As long as you don't have a hideously protruding vulva, I
don't have a problem.
Dan Stanley
STRATQUEEN wrote in message
<19990227132804...@ngol04.aol.com>...
>In article <36d8340f...@news.mindspring.com>, ch...@mindspring.com
(Chip
>of Known Space) writes:
>
>>
>>The point you should be positing, though is: "would she be as popular
>>if she looked like k.d. lang?"
>>
>
Don't you mean Danny Devito?
SDan
Will Borgeson
: Don't forget the queen of 'em all...Celine Dion.
I dunno...she has a good singing voice; although I don't always like the
material, it's usually pleasant to my ears...unlike, say, Mariah Carey.
She seems to me to be more like the queen of 'em all, with T&A
substituting for musical tastiness. Also has a decent voice, but doesn't
do much with it imo.
Will
Les Cargill
Findlay wrote:
>
> There are two kinds of musicians in MY world.
>
> 1. Honest Real With Integrity
> Do what they want and don't compromise. Have morals and values they stick
> to. Write their own songs ! Won't do "anything" for the all mighty $$$$$.
> Deserve respect.
> (ie. Neil Young, Pearl Jam, Ani DiFranco, Liz Phair)
>
> 2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
> Will do anything for the $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record
> companies, planning their every move. Don't wholly write their own
> material. Diserve scorn and disrespect.
> (ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette, Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams)
Ah, but that it were that simple. Any person who prepares any sort
of product for consumption by the mass market had better be prepared to
either 1) conform to consumer expecations, or 2) do what is
necessary to change those expectations.
> --
> Sonic1
> Sonic Revival Homepage
> www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
>
> SEFSTRAT wrote in message <19990225231517...@ng-fv1.aol.com>...
> >>I'll spell it out for you SHE'S A MEDIA SLUT! She would do ANYTHING to be
> >>famous and did!
> >>--
> >>Sonic1
> >
> >You're not really as stupid as you seem, are you?
> >
> >
> >SEFSTRAT
> >
> >(remove "nospam" from address for return email)
> >
> >webpage: http://members.aol.com/sefstrat/index.html/sefpage.html
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Kamchak Tuchuk
ha...@primary.net (evil twin®) wrote:
>
>Speak for yourself. Lebos REWL!
You misspelled "lego's"....
Will Borgeson
: >looks, it's her material. The breathless lesbo stuff leaves most folks
: >cold.
:
: Speak for yourself. Lebos REWL!
I did speak for myself, and for most of the listeners I hang with.
We all love kd's voice, but hate her current material. What's a lebo?
Some of my best friends are lesbians...I've been described by one of them
as being a "lesbian locked in a man's body"...took it as a compliment.
;=>
: > no offense intended, but a lot of gay folks have this tendency to view
: >everything through a sexual haze -
:
: I don't think gay folks are the only ones that do that.
: Could just be me though...
Could be. The only apparently straight person who comes to mind
who's as obsessed with sex (in the lyrics) as kd is the ever-slimy Michael
Bolton...
Will
Les Cargill
STRATQUEEN wrote:
>
> In article <19990226102600...@ng-cg1.aol.com>, rjcl...@aol.com
> (RJClayton) writes:
>
> >And how about session musicians? They in group one or two? Hard put to have
> >a
> >music industry without 'em, I'd say.
> >
>
> Absolutely. In country music the normal path seems to be that a group of
> songwriters churn out the hits, the stars perform them, session artists are
> hired just for the studio work, and others are hired to go on the road -- thus
> being put to the test (i.e., can I live up to Brent Mason's studio chops!).
>
Correct. It is an industry, after all. Buck Owens and Waylon bucked this by
putting their road bands in the studio, but generally, this is the formula.
> --Sharon
>
> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/STRATQUEEN/index.html">Stratqueen's Page</A>
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Les Cargill
Brian Rost wrote:
>
> Findlay wrote:
> >
> > There are two kinds of musicians in MY world.
> >
> > 1. Honest Real With Integrity
> > Write their own songs !
> >
> > 2. Corporate Whores (Male and female)
> > Don't wholly write their own
> > material.
>
> Why is writing a song such a big deal to everyone?
>
Because of Bob Dylan and the Beatles.
From a business perspective, the real money's in the intellectual
property. Intellectual property causes checks to appear without actually
performing additional work. So from that perspective, it's a good investment in
time. Mailbox money.
> Is this just some sort of creeping disease amongst the general
> population, to believe that the ability to write a song is what
> separates REAL musicians from the wannabes?
>
Creeping for about thirty years.
> Gimme a break....
>
> Please go read "Mansion on the Hill" by Fred Goodman.
I intend to, soon as I find a copy. I ain't been lookin' real hard.
>
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> 3Com Corp.
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> br...@synnet.com
>
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>
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>
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evil twinŽ
(Will Borgeson) wrote:
>evil twinŽ (ha...@primary.net) wrote:
>
>: >looks, it's her material. The breathless lesbo stuff leaves most folks
>: >cold.
>:
>: Speak for yourself. Lebos REWL!
>
> I did speak for myself, and for most of the listeners I hang with.
>We all love kd's voice, but hate her current material. What's a lebo?
A non-breeder, I guess.
>Some of my best friends are lesbians...I've been described by one of them
>as being a "lesbian locked in a man's body"...took it as a compliment.
I'm sure it was.
>: > no offense intended, but a lot of gay folks have this tendency to view
>: >everything through a sexual haze -
>:
>: I don't think gay folks are the only ones that do that.
>: Could just be me though...
>
> Could be. The only apparently straight person who comes to mind
>who's as obsessed with sex (in the lyrics) as kd is the ever-slimy Michael
>Bolton...
You think? I always thought sex was a fairly traditional
topic for RAWK N Roll.
evil twinŽ
Tuchuk) wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 18:57:27 GMT,
>ha...@primary.net (evil twinŽ) wrote:
>>
>>Speak for yourself. Lebos REWL!
>
>
>You misspelled "lego's"....
Damn it! I'll not have my spelling mistakes made fun of.
Ron, fire up the whisper copters...
Stephane Boucher
> Don't forget the queen of 'em all...Celine Dion. Findlay wrote in
> message <28qB2.4006$jf2.1...@hme2.newscontent-01.sprint.ca>...
> (snip)
>> 2. Corporate Whores (Male and female) Will do anything for the
>> $$$$. Puppets on the strings of the record companies, planning
>> their every move. Don't wholly write their own material. Diserve
>> scorn and disrespect. (ie. Shania Twain, Alanis Morrisette,
>> Backstreet Boys, Bryan Adams) -- Sonic1 Sonic Revival Homepage
>> www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Disco/8856/
For the record, I don't like any of the artists mentionned above :-)
But I wonder if the folks who dismiss those who do not write their own
material would dismiss the following:
Buddy Guy: Slippin' In has 3 songs out of 11 credited to buddy.
Eric Clapton: Check out "Unplugged" and "From the Craddle"
Not a lot of EC material there.
Pavarotti
Your favourite classical music orchestra
You'll find plenty of folks like that who don't write their own
material.
I'm also willing to bet that those who bitch about the artists that
don't write would not hesitate a second to catch a "corporate wave"
and cash in big time.
Really, it's quite simple to me. If I don't find a CD worth
purchasing, I don't. The corporate marketing doesn't influence me.
It's like those who complain about pro sport salaries, then go to the
games, or watch it on TV.
I'm happy for those who cash in big time, and I'm a little bit
jealous, but I know I don't contribute to the situation.
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,
stbN...@cisco.com Stephane Boucher
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