- Tab and standard notation - Amazing Chops (works for Fusion, Metal, Jazz, etc) - Amazing blues scale applications - Sweep Picking to die for - Pick & Finger rolls - Incredible Arpeggios - Pentatonic Madness - 4th and 5th chords and arpeggios - Odd Meter Phrasing - The most comprehensive Chord Sub methodology - Diminished lines like you've never seen before - Endorsed and used some of the best guitarists in the world - 300 pages - Only $29.95!??
Check out www.sheetsofsound.net for more information. __________________ Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument. Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
> - Tab and standard notation > - Amazing Chops (works for Fusion, Metal, Jazz, etc) > - Amazing blues scale applications > - Sweep Picking to die for > - Pick & Finger rolls > - Incredible Arpeggios > - Pentatonic Madness > - 4th and 5th chords and arpeggios > - Odd Meter Phrasing > - The most comprehensive Chord Sub methodology > - Diminished lines like you've never seen before > - Endorsed and used some of the best guitarists in the world > - 300 pages > - Only $29.95!??
> Check out www.sheetsofsound.net for more information. > __________________ > Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument. > Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
> - Tab and standard notation > - Amazing Chops (works for Fusion, Metal, Jazz, etc) > - Amazing blues scale applications > - Sweep Picking to die for > - Pick & Finger rolls > - Incredible Arpeggios > - Pentatonic Madness > - 4th and 5th chords and arpeggios > - Odd Meter Phrasing > - The most comprehensive Chord Sub methodology > - Diminished lines like you've never seen before > - Endorsed and used some of the best guitarists in the world > - 300 pages > - Only $29.95!??
> Check out www.sheetsofsound.net for more information. > __________________ > Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument. > Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:07:39 +0200, Jack A. Zucker wrote (in message <2f33c43f.0405260507.35144...@posting.google.com>):
> Looking for a single source to provide:
[snip]
Please just put a pointer to your book in your sig/footer. I know it's just a one man show in your case and I wish you big sales but this ad's style isn't appropriate for this group IMHO.
Please, nothing personal here, just my 2 Euro cents.
In article <0001HW.BCDAA17C0223EEF8F0284...@News.Individual.DE>, mtueller...@gmx.net says...
> Please just put a pointer to your book in your sig/footer. > I know it's just a one man show in your case and I wish you > big sales but this ad's style isn't appropriate for this > group IMHO.
Dumb opinion IMHO.
Regular participants who create a guitar-oriented product of generic interest to other guitar players are MOST WELCOME to post informational advertisements in these guitar groups as long as they don't get carried away with posting the ad too often.
Even regular participants who happen to release a CD featuring guitar are MOST WELCOME to advertise here, within reason.
Such ads are on topic and entirely appropriate. People who think otherwise are confused.
> In article <0001HW.BCDAA17C0223EEF8F0284...@News.Individual.DE>, > mtueller...@gmx.net says... > > Please just put a pointer to your book in your sig/footer. > > I know it's just a one man show in your case and I wish you > > big sales but this ad's style isn't appropriate for this > > group IMHO.
> Dumb opinion IMHO.
> Regular participants who create a guitar-oriented product of generic > interest to other guitar players are MOST WELCOME to post informational > advertisements in these guitar groups as long as they don't get carried > away with posting the ad too often.
> Even regular participants who happen to release a CD featuring guitar > are MOST WELCOME to advertise here, within reason.
> Such ads are on topic and entirely appropriate. People who think > otherwise are confused.
Michael Tueller wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:07:39 +0200, Jack A. Zucker wrote > (in message <2f33c43f.0405260507.35144...@posting.google.com>):
>>Looking for a single source to provide:
> [snip]
> Please just put a pointer to your book in your sig/footer. > I know it's just a one man show in your case and I wish you > big sales but this ad's style isn't appropriate for this > group IMHO.
> Please, nothing personal here, just my 2 Euro cents.
> Michael
Nah. I could get way more inappropriate than that.
> "NJD" <delo...@NIXSPAMcultv.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1b1ea4fa89bc39159896f4@news.optonline.net... > > In article <0001HW.BCDAA17C0223EEF8F0284...@News.Individual.DE>, > > mtueller...@gmx.net says... > > > Please just put a pointer to your book in your sig/footer. > > > I know it's just a one man show in your case and I wish you > > > big sales but this ad's style isn't appropriate for this > > > group IMHO.
> > Dumb opinion IMHO.
> > Regular participants who create a guitar-oriented product of generic > > interest to other guitar players are MOST WELCOME to post informational > > advertisements in these guitar groups as long as they don't get carried > > away with posting the ad too often.
> > Even regular participants who happen to release a CD featuring guitar > > are MOST WELCOME to advertise here, within reason.
> > Such ads are on topic and entirely appropriate. People who think > > otherwise are confused.
> > --Nick
> Agreed!
And from a non-regular's point of view, I'd agree as well. As long as someone doesn'tget carriedaway with it,and it's on-topic (whihc this is), I don't see a problem with posting this, nor a 'For sale: '57 Strat - all opriginal" ad. I hope Jack does well; he's done something productive with his skill/knowledge/abilities - best of luck to him! --
> > Nah. I could get way more inappropriate than that.
> > Steve
> huh?
Advertise all you want Jack. The problem I have is with these guys that never even read the newsgroups showing up once in a blue moon and advertising. You've been a great contributor to the groups for a long time and IMHO you have every right to advertise your book which is totally on the topic. I think Tueller is out of line, of course you almost never see a helpful post from him.
>>> Nah. I could get way more inappropriate than that.
>>> Steve
>> huh?
> Advertise all you want Jack. The problem I have is with these guys > that never even read the newsgroups showing up once in a blue moon and > advertising. You've been a great contributor to the groups for a > long time and IMHO you have every right to advertise your book which > is totally on the topic. I think Tueller is out of line, of course > you almost never see a helpful post from him.
I would likewise like to add my words of encouragement to Jack, but I wish he would post to each group separately...I subscribe to all these NGs, so I'll let you guess where I was when I wrote this post. To the point...In my eyes, Michael was simply voicing his opinion about acceptable levels of advertising. Jack *is* a contributor, and I think an advert in his signature is a good way to promote his book. It can be a constant feature tailing his other helpful comments, typically included in the message body ;-) I can't think of a better sales technique than to help people pro rata while pointing them to a resources that could help them grow further. In any event, I shall desist from being an apologist and wish Mr. Zucker the best...so, with this last global post, can we now stop the crossposting?
Sincerely, CS
-- --- The opinions, comments, and advice offered by me, are mine alone. As such, they carry as much weight as a feather in a snow storm. Gear Page at: http://www3.sympatico.ca/cybrserf/Gear/Gear.htm
> > Nah. I could get way more inappropriate than that.
> > Steve
> huh?
Jack, I tried to reply to you email message but I got delivery failure. Here's my message below.
Jack, I got this message with a file attached, (info.cpl 27.1KB). Anyway I tried to open it but got a message there was a virus attached to it. Don't know if your computer sent it without your knowlege, or what. Hope it wasn't intentional (I assume it's not).
Thought it might be something from your "Sheets of Sound" info, that's why I tried to open it, thought it might be some material. Anyway, thought you might want to know. I waS ON YOUR WEB SITE. Gee, I guess flaming you about your advertisement has its consequences. (Just kidding !) There was no text from your email, only the file, which I could not open due to my Norton AV(I guess)detecting a virus.
By the way, I think the Sheets of Sound material is interesting and that you've done a wonderful job with the material (from what I can see from your web site). Your promotion of it is a little agressive, but otherwise I wouldn't have known about it. If I became annoyed by it (your promotion) I was was very interested once I looked at the content. From pessimism to optimism, try a new revolutionary approach.
Byron, I did not email you (prior to this), nor do I have a virus on my system. These viruses work by forging headers and making it look like they're coming from someone else.
Jaz
-- Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument. Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar "Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar governing the way you play music!"
> > > Nah. I could get way more inappropriate than that.
> > > Steve
> > huh?
> Jack, I tried to reply to you email message but I got delivery > failure. Here's my message below.
> Jack, > I got this message with a file attached, (info.cpl 27.1KB). > Anyway I tried to open it but got a message there was a virus attached > to it. Don't know if your computer sent it without your knowlege, or > what. Hope it wasn't intentional (I assume it's not).
> Thought it might be something from your "Sheets of Sound" > info, that's why I tried to open it, thought it might be some > material. Anyway, thought you might want to know. I waS ON YOUR WEB > SITE. Gee, I guess flaming you about your advertisement has its > consequences. (Just kidding !) There was no text from your email, only > the file, which I could not open due to my Norton AV(I guess)detecting > a virus.
> By the way, I think the Sheets of Sound material is interesting > and that you've done a wonderful job with the material (from what I > can see from your web site). Your promotion of it is a little > agressive, but otherwise I wouldn't have known about it. If I became > annoyed by it (your promotion) I was was very interested once I looked > at the content. From pessimism to optimism, try a new revolutionary > approach.
> Regards,
> Byron Atkins
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Zuckerjaz > To: Aqqs > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:59 PM
I'm confused by part of your message. What do you mean you were on my website? What does that have to do with the email?
P.P.S.
I did not email a copy of this subject's posting to anyone.
-- Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument. Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar "Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar governing the way you play music!"
> > > Nah. I could get way more inappropriate than that.
> > > Steve
> > huh?
> Jack, I tried to reply to you email message but I got delivery > failure. Here's my message below.
> Jack, > I got this message with a file attached, (info.cpl 27.1KB). > Anyway I tried to open it but got a message there was a virus attached > to it. Don't know if your computer sent it without your knowlege, or > what. Hope it wasn't intentional (I assume it's not).
> Thought it might be something from your "Sheets of Sound" > info, that's why I tried to open it, thought it might be some > material. Anyway, thought you might want to know. I waS ON YOUR WEB > SITE. Gee, I guess flaming you about your advertisement has its > consequences. (Just kidding !) There was no text from your email, only > the file, which I could not open due to my Norton AV(I guess)detecting > a virus.
> By the way, I think the Sheets of Sound material is interesting > and that you've done a wonderful job with the material (from what I > can see from your web site). Your promotion of it is a little > agressive, but otherwise I wouldn't have known about it. If I became > annoyed by it (your promotion) I was was very interested once I looked > at the content. From pessimism to optimism, try a new revolutionary > approach.
> Regards,
> Byron Atkins
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Zuckerjaz > To: Aqqs > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:59 PM
> I'm confused by part of your message. What do you mean you were on my > website? What does that have to do with the email?
> P.P.S.
I meant I was on your www.sheetsofsound.net a few days before I received the email. You know the site you advertise here constantly? As for what that has to do with the email??? Well I don't know, except that I got an email from Zuckerjaz that had an attached file with a virus. Which is what I told you before. I'm only telling you as a courtesy and I also tried to give you a compliment on your material from the web site in my message the other day.
The copy of the email is below, or email that was generated with your name.There was no text in the email message only a file. It's not a big deal, you're a programmer so you may have much more knowledge than me about generated messages. I didn't suffer any harm from the message, which I assume is just a fluke happening.
>> I'm confused by part of your message. What do you mean you were on my >> website? What does that have to do with the email?
>> P.P.S.
> I meant I was on your www.sheetsofsound.net a few days before I > received the email. You know the site you advertise here constantly? > As for what that has to do with the email??? Well I don't know, except > that I got an email from Zuckerjaz that had an attached file with a > virus. Which is what I told you before. I'm only telling you as a > courtesy and I also tried to give you a compliment on your material > from the web site in my message the other day.
> The copy of the email is below, or email that was generated with your > name.There was no text in the email message only a file. It's not a > big deal, you're a programmer so you may have much more knowledge than > me about generated messages. I didn't suffer any harm from the > message, which I assume is just a fluke happening.
Byron, those worms harvest their headers from the computer they're on. The only thing that means is that someone has both your address and Jack's somewhere in their address book, outbox, or inbox, or even in their downloaded usenet posts. I've gotten that say they're from me before, and I know I'm not sending myself viruses.
On 28 May 2004 18:16:41 GMT, James Andrews <mrbig...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Byron, those worms harvest their headers from the computer they're on. >The only thing that means is that someone has both your address and >Jack's somewhere in their address book, outbox, or inbox, or even in >their downloaded usenet posts. I've gotten that say they're from >me before, and I know I'm not sending myself viruses.
Hey Byron, if it makes you feel any better, I know Jack himself learned about this the hard way, too. I once got an e-mail from him complaining about the virus he thought I'd emailed his way...
Now I'm really confused. You say you don't have any problem with me promoting my book but then you say it's inappropriate?
I can't win ! :-)
-- Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument. Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar "Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar governing the way you play music!"
"I say play your own way. Don't play what the public wants. You play what you want and let the public pick up on what you're doing even if it does take them fifteen, twenty years." - Thelonious Monk
