Is this John McLaughlin's first official recording?
Mike C.
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Keith Freeman
> which Johnny Mac plays. It's interesting, a bit pedestrian, but I find
> it more interesting than Emergency, anyway.
I don't find it pedestrian. The only bad thing about it is the twee title -
Experiments With Pops!
> Did
> McLaughlin do any sessions before this time?
The earliest I have is 1963 with Graham Bond (on alto, not organ), Jack
Bruce on bass (acoustic!) and Ginger Baker. It was an LP twofer, don't know
if it's been rereleased.
There's a recording by Mike Carr, Bebop from the East Coast (1962), where
he apparently plays on one track.
From 1967 there's the Danny Thompson Quartet Live.
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pmfan57
> I just got a copy of the Gordon Beck Quartet's Experiments With Pop on which Johnny Mac plays. It's interesting, a bit pedestrian, but I find it more interesting than Emergency, anyway. The tunes are These Boots Are Made For Walking, Norwegian Wood, Sunny, Up Up And Away, Michelle, I Can See For Miles, Good Vibrations, and Monday Monday. The recording was apparently made in August 1967 (a month before I was born). Did McLaughlin do any sessions before this time?
>
> --
> "A great percentage of people don't want a challenge. They want
> something done to them, they don't want to participate. But there'll
> always be maybe 15% that desire something more, and they'll search it
> out. And maybe that's where art is."
> - Bill Evans
I like that "Pops" album and everything, but more interesting that
Emergency!? Even if Tony Williams' drum parts were all that was on
that Emergency! album, it would be a great album. Then add some of
the most amazing guitar ever recorded and the great Larry Young. That
album is so great that DeJohnette and Sco made a two CD tribute to it.
Of course, I could have done without Tony's "vocals". Great lyrics
like: "Why don't you say what you mean; and mean what you say." Or:
"They say that everything is said in the bed..." etc.
I have a recording of JM with a sax player playing pretty straight
ahead material that is earlier than the Beck album. I love that early
JM. No one played anything like that before, or even after.
Mike C.
"spoken word" vibe and the lack of structure really throws me. I think it's
pretty self-indulgent and I can't find anything interesting about it. I'm
much happier with the Trio Of Doom disc, as well as just about anything else
of McLaughlin's.
The Gordon Beck disc is pretty cool, though. Trying to breathe jazz life
into "Good Vibrations" is, er, interesting, but not necessarily in a bad
way.
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Mike C.
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"A great percentage of people don't want a challenge. They want
something done to them, they don't want to participate. But there'll
always be maybe 15% that desire something more, and they'll search it
out. And maybe that's where art is."
- Bill Evans
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pmfan57
> I was ready for the Emergency disc to be something great, but the hippie
> "spoken word" vibe and the lack of structure really throws me. I think it's
> pretty self-indulgent and I can't find anything interesting about it. I'm
> much happier with the Trio Of Doom disc, as well as just about anything else
> of McLaughlin's.
>
> The Gordon Beck disc is pretty cool, though. Trying to breathe jazz life
> into "Good Vibrations" is, er, interesting, but not necessarily in a bad
> way.
>
> --
> "A great percentage of people don't want a challenge. They want
> something done to them, they don't want to participate. But there'll
> always be maybe 15% that desire something more, and they'll search it
> out. And maybe that's where art is."
> - Bill Evans
>
Maybe you don't want a challenge?
george4908
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vlaA-H-dU
He's somewhat evident in the first piece, much more on display in the
second. You might recognize one or two other players as well ...
pmfan57
He was in that group for sure with Bond, Bruce and Baker. But I have
never been able to spot JM in this video (it has been cited in the
group previously).
This is an absolute classic video, that's for sure.
Funkallero
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't think that's the issue. I like just about all of McLaughlin's
output, as well as much avant garde, such as 70's Miles, Ornette,
Shorter, etc. I just can't get myself into Emergency. I don't find
that amazing guitar in light of McLaughlin's overall body of work,
including Live At Albert Hall, Shakti, and even the newest disc, which
I'm loving.
Funkallero
> > I just got a copy of the Gordon Beck Quartet's Experiments With Pop on
> > which Johnny Mac plays. It's interesting, a bit pedestrian, but I find
> > it more interesting than Emergency, anyway.
>
> I don't find it pedestrian. The only bad thing about it is the twee title -
> Experiments With Pops!
>
> > Did
> > McLaughlin do any sessions before this time?
>
> The earliest I have is 1963 with Graham Bond (on alto, not organ), Jack
> Bruce on bass (acoustic!) and Ginger Baker. It was an LP twofer, don't know
> if it's been rereleased.
>
> There's a recording by Mike Carr, Bebop from the East Coast (1962), where
> he apparently plays on one track.
>
> From 1967 there's the Danny Thompson Quartet Live.
>
> -Keith
Maybe "pedestrian" was a bad word. I think I like McLaughlin better as
a leader than a sideman. Of course, with Miles is a different story,
but I just don't hear McLaughlin as really ripping when given the
confines of "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'". Not that complex is
necessarily always better, but the tunes here are a bit too steeped in
the pop tradition to really be a vehicle for jazz interpretation,
excepting "Sunny", which would have been nice to hear McLaughlin blow
over.
Hmmm, I think I'd like to hear McLaughlin teamed with Martino. *That*
would be some blowing!
Al
verify that?
george4908
> I read that he played the guitar part on Winchester Cathedral. Can anyone
> verify that?
I'd heard that and also that he played on the Stone's "Heart of
Stone."
andy...@mailinator.com
there is an archives page here for his session work, the links used to
work too,