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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
From: thomas <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:42:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 10:42 am
Subject: Re: Jordu bridge
On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:35:52 AM UTC-4, jimmybruno wrote:
It's the human condition.
> You guys are all hopelessly lost.
> Who said Clifford had no ear.
No one said that, not seriously anyway.
> I haven't heard that solo in awhile but I would bet what you think are
You may be correct, but you're being condescending nonetheless.
> sequences are not. Here's what I don't understand: your argument. If I read you correctly, you said that only ear development is necessary. But I have known a number of classical musicians with amazing ears -- solfege out the wazoo, playing back anything they hear -- but who can't play jazz or improvise. Why? Because they lack a jazz vocabulary. I think that having a good ear is not enough to become a competent jazz improviser.
Traditionally people learned to play jazz by copping tunes and licks by ear, and more ambitious musicians supplemented that by playing patterns and sequences. These methods combine ear training with vocabulary acquisition.
What I don't understand is why you are arguing (if I understand you correctly) that only an ear is necessary, and arguing against some common modes of vocabulary acquisition that were recommended above.
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