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Very Early John McLaughlin!

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charlieguitar

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Dec 12, 2012, 11:40:42 AM12/12/12
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This is one of the first sessions that McLaughlin played on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FhryR1QgE
Charlie

Joey Goldstein

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Dec 12, 2012, 5:08:51 PM12/12/12
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Really?

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thomas

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Dec 12, 2012, 5:12:19 PM12/12/12
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On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:40:42 AM UTC-5, charlieguitar wrote:
> This is one of the first sessions that McLaughlin played on!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FhryR1QgE


After all these years, it's still extremely annoying.

charlieguitar

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Dec 12, 2012, 6:07:13 PM12/12/12
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Yes, check the latest issue of DownBeat in which he talks about sessions that he played on as a studio musician in his pre-Miles days.
Charlie

charlieguitar

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Dec 12, 2012, 6:08:32 PM12/12/12
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The worst:) Charlie

Jonathan

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Dec 12, 2012, 6:47:41 PM12/12/12
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On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:40:42 AM UTC-5, charlieguitar wrote:
Oh jeez, thanks.

Now I'll have that tune in my head for the rest of the week!

Gerry

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Dec 12, 2012, 7:06:18 PM12/12/12
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"Intolerable" is the word I'd use to describe it. We had a great deal
of diversity in radio back then, but many of the "novelties" should be
played once and then destroyed.

Re: McLaughlin: When they say it's tough paying your dues--the mean it!
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Music is the best means we have of digesting time. -- W. H. Auden

charlieguitar

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Dec 12, 2012, 11:16:17 PM12/12/12
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If you are lucky! Charlie

Joe Finn

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Dec 12, 2012, 11:32:14 PM12/12/12
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"charlieguitar" wrote in message
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I did a quick search on this just to satisfy my curiosity. McLaughlin had
mentioned this in a Milkowski interview:

http://www.abstractlogix.com/interview_view.php?idno=23

When I saw the subject header I thought you might be alluding to one of my
favorite McLaughlin albums; Time Remembered. He plays Very Early and a bunch
of other Bill Evans tunes. ......joe

patmp...@gmail.com

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Dec 13, 2012, 2:55:26 AM12/13/12
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I remember that. It was a huge hit. I'm pretty sure the radio cut off that long intro.

patmp...@gmail.com

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Dec 13, 2012, 2:59:43 AM12/13/12
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Have you ever heard The Pilgrim by Mahavishnu Orchestra? It's much worse. I wasn't even aware that it existed until this year. I think everyone involved knew it was best not to talk about it. It's a strong candidate for Worst Album Ever by a Famous Person.

David J. Littleboy

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Dec 13, 2012, 6:37:01 AM12/13/12
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"Gerry" wrote:
On 2012-12-12 22:12:19 +0000, thomas said:

> On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:40:42 AM UTC-5, charlieguitar wrote:
>> This is one of the first sessions that McLaughlin played on!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FhryR1QgE
>
> After all these years, it's still extremely annoying.

"Intolerable" is the word I'd use to describe it. We had a great deal
of diversity in radio back then, but many of the "novelties" should be
played once and then destroyed.
<<<<<<<<<<<<

Yes. I remember the first time I heard Alice's Restaurant. "Oh, crap. Folk
radio is going to be useless for months." I thought to myself. And was
right.

Although I really liked Jaime Brockett's "Titanic" back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XFYMjkFYPg

Hmm. OK, Well, it's not all that great.

-- David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan


charlieguitar

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Dec 13, 2012, 10:04:15 AM12/13/12
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That's a great recording. Charlie

charlieguitar

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Dec 13, 2012, 6:09:46 PM12/13/12
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I think thay you are right. If I remember things right you had the guitar intro and then right into the vocal.Thething was so bad that it stays with you for decades. I defy you to try, now that it has been resurrected, to banish it from your memory. Just when you think it's gone that damn guitar comes in again. Charlie

Rick Stone

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Dec 13, 2012, 8:10:26 PM12/13/12
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On 12/12/2012 6:47 PM, Jonathan wrote:
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> Oh jeez, thanks.
>
> Now I'll have that tune in my head for the rest of the week!
>

Do you mean it wasn't there already? I've been thinking about it for
over 40 years! LOL! . . .. that and the f'ing theme from Chitty Chitty
Bang Bang (which my grandparents took me to see when I was a kid).

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Rick Stone

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Dec 13, 2012, 8:13:53 PM12/13/12
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On 12/13/2012 6:09 PM, charlieguitar wrote:

> I think thay you are right. If I remember things right you had the guitar intro and then right into the vocal.Thething was so bad that it stays with you for decades. I defy you to try, now that it has been resurrected, to banish it from your memory. Just when you think it's gone that damn guitar comes in again. Charlie
>

The rule is, the worse the song, the harder it is to forget (you think
that Madison Avenue didn't know this? I STILL remember every bad jingle
that was on tv when I was growing up).

As for the New Vaudeville Band, I do remember that there was some
involvment with the early Bonzo Do Dah Dog Band (later called the Bonzo
Dog Band, and finally just the Bonzo's) and here's a little bit about
them; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Vaudeville_Band

Mike

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Dec 14, 2012, 12:29:02 AM12/14/12
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Listen to Howard Roberts' version

http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Howard+Roberts+Winchester+Cathedral

He does a great job on it.

Mike

AR

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Dec 14, 2012, 1:16:37 AM12/14/12
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On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:40:42 AM UTC-5, charlieguitar wrote:
Ya wanna be in show biz? Expect - somewhere along the way - to be humiliated. Bravo to JM for admitting to this low point in his career (further evidence he's a better man than I).

And on the same topic, this may have been Jim Hall's worst moment: http://youtu.be/iDs8JxxAnlU (warning: painful to watch)

thomas

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Dec 14, 2012, 10:43:43 AM12/14/12
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On Friday, December 14, 2012 1:16:37 AM UTC-5, AR wrote:
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> Ya wanna be in show biz? Expect - somewhere along the way - to be humiliated. Bravo to JM for admitting to this low point in his career (further evidence he's a better man than I).
>
> And on the same topic, this may have been Jim Hall's worst moment: http://youtu.be/iDs8JxxAnlU (warning: painful to watch)>

Being subjected to Merv's "couch audition" after the show was even more painful for Jim.

Nil

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Dec 15, 2012, 4:42:16 PM12/15/12
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On 14 Dec 2012, AR <alexov...@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz:

> And on the same topic, this may have been Jim Hall's worst moment:
> http://youtu.be/iDs8JxxAnlU (warning: painful to watch)

A little painfully show-bizzy, yes, but Jim made the most of it, and
his little solo is quite nice. No matter what the circumstances, he
still sounds like himself.

ott...@hotmail.com

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Dec 15, 2012, 7:14:28 PM12/15/12
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> On 14 Dec A little painfully show-bizzy, yes, but Jim made the most of it, and his little solo is quite nice. No matter what the circumstances, he still sounds like himself.

I believe Jim Hall was a member of the Merv Griffin band for a year or more just after he got married, so that he could stay of the road for a while.

Bg

TD

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Dec 15, 2012, 10:24:56 PM12/15/12
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When I studied with him back in '68, he was on Merv's band along with Chuck Wayne. Two guitarists in the band at the same time.

charlieguitar

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Dec 16, 2012, 6:43:24 PM12/16/12
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Herb Ellis also played in that band for a while. I guess if nothing else can be said Merve had good taste when it came to guitarists. Charlie

TD

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Dec 16, 2012, 7:01:13 PM12/16/12
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Not to mention the rest of the band, east and west coast.

charlieguitar

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Dec 16, 2012, 7:27:21 PM12/16/12
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For sure! Charlie

TD

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Dec 16, 2012, 9:43:01 PM12/16/12
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You just reminded me. That's when I first met Herb. I was performing at Ceasar's Palace with Tom Jones when Merv was filming his show there during the day. I walked in the Green Room with my axe and that's where I met Herb. He said "Let's jam!". So there we were playing the blues together, when Paul Anka walked in and said "You guys sound good." On the same show, I had loaned BB King my Fender Vibrolux. That was a cool time. I met Aretha there too and she wasn't quite yet a star. I got some memories.

SB

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Dec 17, 2012, 12:38:59 AM12/17/12
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> You just reminded me. That's when I first met Herb. I was performing at Ceasar's Palace with Tom Jones when Merv was filming his show there during the day. I walked in the Green Room with my axe and that's where I met Herb. He said "Let's jam!". So there we were playing the blues together, when Paul Anka walked in and said "You guys sound good." On the same show, I had loaned BB King my Fender Vibrolux. That was a cool time. I met Aretha there too and she wasn't quite yet a star. I got some memories.

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TD: Thanks for the great story. You must know just about everyone in music from the Vegas years. You are the best teacher I've ever had. Thanks for spreading your passion for guitar.

Bryce

Bill Williams

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Dec 17, 2012, 5:46:03 AM12/17/12
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>I got some memories.

You sure do.
Tony, are you planning to write your memoirs?

Jonathan

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Dec 17, 2012, 8:25:15 AM12/17/12
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I think it's great!
It's catchy, fun, and has a cool old-timey vibe.
Still, I listened to it once and I'm fixed for the next ten years :)

TD

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Dec 17, 2012, 9:16:40 AM12/17/12
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As soon as the statute of limitations runs out.

Jazzer

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Dec 17, 2012, 9:51:34 AM12/17/12
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On Dec 12, 11:40 am, charlieguitar <robinsonch...@comcast.net> wrote:
> This is one of the first sessions that McLaughlin played on!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FhryR1QgE
> Charlie

Wow, that was about as exciting as this guy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrSlDz0DfTQ

Patrick Powers

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Dec 17, 2012, 9:53:26 AM12/17/12
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Groovy, Pops, groovy!

Steven Bornfeld

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Dec 17, 2012, 1:25:31 PM12/17/12
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I hope Anka gave you a shirt.

thomas

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Dec 17, 2012, 4:35:20 PM12/17/12
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On Monday, December 17, 2012 1:25:31 PM UTC-5, Steven Bornfeld wrote:
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> I hope Anka gave you a shirt.

When Anka moved, did he slice like a fucking hammer?

Bill Williams

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Dec 18, 2012, 7:43:37 AM12/18/12
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> > Tony, are you planning to write your memoirs?
> As soon as the statute of limitations runs out.

Too long for your public to wait!


Bill Williams

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Dec 18, 2012, 7:50:35 AM12/18/12
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> When Anka moved, did he slice like a fucking hammer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LsnW0WZlKQ
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