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hawvl

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Jan 5, 2013, 5:53:30 AM1/5/13

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My list of favorite new school jazzguitarists (whose technique I can match
but who have a far better output than me) is now extended with the
inimitable Chuck Loeb. The list is now:

Pat Metheny, Pat Martino, John Scofield, Adam Rogers, Jonathan Kreisberg,
Dave Stryker, Gilad Hekselman, Jesse van Ruller, Martijn van Iterson,
Kurt Rosenwinkel, Chuck Loeb

There must be 100s more. What's your list?

Hans van Leeuwen www.hansvanleeuwen.ontheweb.nl

terrasbeest

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Jan 5, 2013, 7:27:52 AM1/5/13

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Op zaterdag 5 januari 2013 11:53:30 UTC+1 schreef hawvl het volgende:

Eddy Palermo, Philip Catherine, Bireli Lagrene, Sylvain Luc......

charlieguitar

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Jan 5, 2013, 9:22:26 AM1/5/13

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Jim Hall. All that any of this proves is that chops alone aren't the answer.Also,some of those mentioned might fool you as many guys don't pull out everything that they have every time.
Charlie

TD

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Jan 5, 2013, 9:29:18 AM1/5/13

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It's all too usually easy to tell who has good ears and who doesn't behind chops, but most of the audience is in the dark to it all. It is not so far away from the legal system where the gray area displays how lack of actual proof walks around undismayed.

Bill Williams

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Jan 5, 2013, 9:58:29 AM1/5/13

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Hans did specify "new school" though, which suggested to me at least 80's onwards players with certain things in common as we can hear perhaps from the output of those on the list.

To my way of looking at things, players Jim Hall or even Peter Bernstein or Jim Mullen, all personal favourites, might not be new school.

Still playing and listening are more important than classifying, I guess, and Hans I imagine your request has more to do with wanting to listen.

Bill Williams

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Jan 5, 2013, 10:00:52 AM1/5/13

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Lionel Loueke
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charlieguitar

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Jan 5, 2013, 11:12:55 AM1/5/13

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Well Jim Hall was teaching at the New School if that counts for anything. But seriously it does bring up the question "What is new school?". To me players like Joe DiOrio and at times Jim Hall ( he seems to come from a lot of different places) were doing things that were more modern sounding than many of the guys who came after them.
Charlie

Paul K

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Jan 5, 2013, 11:20:01 AM1/5/13

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Well, if Pat Martino and Martijn van Iterson are "new school", then so
is Bernstein ;-) Maybe Hans meant "younger than he is".

My list would include (in addition to
martino/metheny/scofield/hall/goodrick/bickert/benson and everybody
great that preceded them) bernstein, Kreisberg, rosenwinkel, loueke,
a.rogers, Monder, Sylvain Luc, JVR. There are also tons of more obscure
players I like who play at a super high level but whose names don't
always show up on lists like this: Hans mentioned Stryker, I'd (for
players in the USA) add S. Bailey, S. Masakowski, Rodney Jones, larry
koonse, peter sprague, bruce forman.....

And since I'm never quite sure what jazz is, I'd have to add Marc
Ducret, bill Frisell, Mary Halvorsen to my list.

but then, What if the list included Brazilians..... I can never complete
such lists. So many great players with so many different conceptions.

--
Paul K
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Paul K

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Jan 5, 2013, 11:22:22 AM1/5/13

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On 1/5/13 11:12 AM, charlieguitar wrote:

To me players like Joe DiOrio and at times Jim Hall ( he
> seems to come from a lot of different places) were doing things that
> were more modern sounding than many of the guys who came after them.
> Charlie

+1
also goodrick.

GuyB

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Jan 5, 2013, 11:34:02 AM1/5/13

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One of the top British Jazz guitarists has to be Mike Walker, he has incredible chops and a good pair of ears, he must be 50, so he's probably not been to a "New School" or an "Old School" for a quite a while.

Here he is in action:
http://mupa.hu/multimedia/?mid=1566

Listening.
Guy

hawvl

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Jan 5, 2013, 12:24:00 PM1/5/13

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"charlieguitar" <robins...@comcast.net> schreef in bericht
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You don't understand: mentioned the *new school jazzguitarists. My list of
the old boppers is large as well!

hawvl

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Jan 5, 2013, 3:04:49 PM1/5/13

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"GuyB" <Recordi...@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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Great chops indeed, that is what I mean with "there must be 100s more".
He even has a (autobiographic) Wikipedia page so he is to be taken serious.

HP

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Jan 6, 2013, 11:31:47 AM1/6/13

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On 5 jan, 21:04, "hawvl" <ha...@jazzcity.nl> wrote:
> "GuyB" <RecordingMu...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:a03e76dc-1251-406d...@googlegroups.com...

Wes Montgomery , Jim Hall , Ed Bickert ,Pat Martino , Pat Metheny ,
George Benson , Mordy Ferber , Genil Castro , Nelson Veras , Lorne
Lofsky , Joe Diorio , Joe Pass ,Jimmy Raney ...