OT (but of poss. interest) Doug Wamble at home
Steven Bornfeld
tom walls
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
Hey, check out Charles! Getting all growed up. I think Doug was about
that age when he first appeared on rec.bluenote.com.
Phil
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
Good article. Its nice to see someone, especially a musician, who is
happy... for a change.
drthoma...@gmail.com
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
Sweet crib. At that price, I'm assuming he's gentrifying in a slum
neighborhood, which is a brave thing to do.
DougW
wrote:
> Sweet crib. At that price, I'm assuming he's gentrifying in a slum
> neighborhood, which is a brave thing to do.
As usual, you assume incorrectly.
Rick Stone
Don't know about the "for a change" part. LOTS of musicians are happy.
If you can actually spend your life doing something you LOVE to do,
then that's a pretty good basis for happiness. You DON'T need a lot a
money. You DO need to DO something you love. It's amazing how many
people don't get that, but I guess it just comes from our society's
emphasis on the "rich" and the "famous."
--
Rick Stone
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Mark Guest
> Phil wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 8:52 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
>
> > Good article. Its nice to see someone, especially a musician, who is
> > happy... for a change.
>
> Don't know about the "for a change" part. LOTS of musicians are happy.
> If you can actually spend your life doing something you LOVE to do,
> then that's a pretty good basis for happiness. You DON'T need a lot a
> money. You DO need to DO something you love. It's amazing how many
> people don't get that, but I guess it just comes from our society's
> emphasis on the "rich" and the "famous."
>
> --
> Rick Stone
> website:www.rickstone.com
> epk:www.sonicbids.com/rickstone
> Other sites:www.myspace.com/rickstonemusicwww.facebook.com/rickstonemusicwww.reverbnation.com/rickstonewww.youtube.com/jazzandwww.cdbaby.com/all/jazzand jazzguitarny.ning.com
Hi Rick,
I agree with your sentiment, and wish it always worked for me. I'm
currently NOT happy, because I may have to spend 1/2 of every year in
Canada, as our health insurance premiums are going up to just under
$1000/month *and it's a CRAPPY policy/company!* OK, I'm not trying to
hijack a thread, or anything heinous. And I *like* Canada. I resent
having to look at moving just for health insurance.
All the best,
Mark Guest
Jazz Guitar
www.markguest.net
www.cdbaby.com/cd/markguest
Music produces a kind of pleasure which human nature cannot do
without."
Confucius (c.551-479 BC)
Steven Bornfeld
Sweet article. Somehow didn't know youze was in da Bronx.
Steve
Phil
> > On Nov 16, 8:52 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
>
> > Good article. Its nice to see someone, especially a musician, who is
> > happy... for a change.
>
> Don't know about the "for a change" part. LOTS of musicians are happy.
> If you can actually spend your life doing something you LOVE to do,
> then that's a pretty good basis for happiness. You DON'T need a lot a
> money. You DO need to DO something you love. It's amazing how many
> people don't get that, but I guess it just comes from our society's
> emphasis on the "rich" and the "famous."
>
> --
> Rick Stone
> website:www.rickstone.com
> epk:www.sonicbids.com/rickstone
> Other sites:www.myspace.com/rickstonemusicwww.facebook.com/rickstonemusicwww.reverbnation.com/rickstonewww.youtube.com/jazzandwww.cdbaby.com/all/jazzand jazzguitarny.ning.com
Hey Rick,
"for a change" : My sentiment was that, in general, the media is full
of problems, horror stories, fear and unhappy people. I'm glad a
great musician like Doug has a swell pad and a nice family, and he
didn't have to become an accountant to make it happen.
drthoma...@gmail.com
"For decades Highbridge has been one of the poorest communities in
America. Over half the population lives below the poverty line and
receives public assistance (AFDC, Home Relief, Supplemental Security
Income, and Medicaid). [...]
Many social problems associated with poverty from crime to drug
addiction have plagued the area for some time. Despite crime declines
versus their peaks during the crack and heroin epidemics violent crime
continues to be a serious problem in the community. Highbridge has
significantly higher drop out rates and incidents of violence in its
schools. Students must pass through metal detectors and swipe ID cards
to enter the buildings. Reminiscent a prison environment which many
feel encourages bad behavior. Other problems in local schools include
low test scores and high truancy rates. Drug addiction is also a
serious problem in the community. Due to the lucrative drug trade in
the area many addicted reside in the community. Peer pressure among
children who come from broken homes contributes to the high rate of
usage. Many households in the area are headed by a single mother which
contributes to the high poverty rate. Many of whom had their children
at a very young age and unfortunately could not provide for their
children. Many of the families living in Highbridge have been in
poverty for generations. The incarceration rate in the area is also
very high."
paul
wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
sweet pad, looks like it was a good deal also. 180k for a place that
size anywhere in nyc is unreal.
--paul
Steven Bornfeld
In gentrifying areas of NYC, conditions are very often block-to-block.
Lack of good schools is one of the factors that discourage young
families from moving into otherwise attractive areas with good housing
stock.
I don't know the Bronx well (except for the zoo and botanic gardens,
and that a boulevard is named after one of my professors), so I don't
know the specifics of Highbridge. But there are similar neighborhoods
in Brooklyn, with a mix of grit and style. The mixing doesn't always go
smoothly, as people in (for example) some parts of Brooklyn's
Williamsburg can attest. In any case, I'd take Doug's word on the state
of his neighborhood here--at least ahead of wiki.
Steve
drthoma...@gmail.com
wrote:
Good points. Doug's tract has a lower poverty rate than Highbridge as
a whole, although still about 50% higher than the national average.
His major challenge will be finding safe schools for his offspring.
Steven Bornfeld
That's a traditional NYC sport. We're looking at high schools right
now for our daughter.
S.
DougW
wrote:
Yeah, people like Tom use books to inform them. Remember the old
"black people didn't invent jazz" conversation? How sad he feels it
necessary to shit on something good.
At any rate, despite his ignorance, I'd never live in a place with my
wife and son that wasn't safe. Price be damned. I'll spend whatever or
live wherever as long as they are taken care of. When we saw this
place, I was curious about it. I'd lived in other Bronx neighborhoods
before. We were still in Connecticut and when I'd come in for gigs,
I'd hang out in the hood at night and check it out. People were
hanging out, having fun, talking to everyone on the block. It just
felt right. We were looking at Harlem and places around Columbia that
were a lot more expensive. None had this much space. So we snagged it
for under market value due to the fact that the seller's had already
bought a house and wanted to sell quickly.
As for Tom's dig about schools, he also doesn't know of what he
speaks. We have some amazing options up here for schools. There's two
new charters, and several places in Upper Manhattan and the Upper East
Side that we're looking into. His concern, as always, is moving.
Steven Bornfeld
>
> Yeah, people like Tom use books to inform them. Remember the old
> "black people didn't invent jazz" conversation? How sad he feels it
> necessary to shit on something good.
>
> At any rate, despite his ignorance, I'd never live in a place with my
> wife and son that wasn't safe. Price be damned. I'll spend whatever or
> live wherever as long as they are taken care of. When we saw this
> place, I was curious about it. I'd lived in other Bronx neighborhoods
> before. We were still in Connecticut and when I'd come in for gigs,
> I'd hang out in the hood at night and check it out. People were
> hanging out, having fun, talking to everyone on the block. It just
> felt right. We were looking at Harlem and places around Columbia that
> were a lot more expensive. None had this much space. So we snagged it
> for under market value due to the fact that the seller's had already
> bought a house and wanted to sell quickly.
>
> As for Tom's dig about schools, he also doesn't know of what he
> speaks. We have some amazing options up here for schools. There's two
> new charters, and several places in Upper Manhattan and the Upper East
> Side that we're looking into. His concern, as always, is moving.
>
Thanks for setting me straight. :-)
Steve
drthoma...@gmail.com
>
> Yeah, people like Tom use books to inform them.
Demographic market research is my business. I use census data and
various other govt and proprietary products.
Joe Finn
news:he10b1$sg3$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Phil wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 8:52 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/realestate/15habi.html?_r=1&scp=1&s...
>>
>> Good article. Its nice to see someone, especially a musician, who is
>> happy... for a change.
>
> Don't know about the "for a change" part. LOTS of musicians are happy. If
> you can actually spend your life doing something you LOVE to do, then
> that's a pretty good basis for happiness. You DON'T need a lot a money.
> You DO need to DO something you love. It's amazing how many people don't
> get that, but I guess it just comes from our society's emphasis on the
> "rich" and the "famous."
Rick's comments are right on. I was sternly warned for many years by my
mother not pursue a career in music. She said it would be a "difficult
life". I later learned that she had no real basis for that advice and that
she was dead wrong besides. Being involved with a career you love is a big
part of what makes people happy. The musicians I have known are no exception
to the rule. .....joe
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