Re: 'Donna Lee' Joe Giglio-new video on youtube...
Gerry
> Hi All,
> I thought you might enjoy these recently uploaded videos:
> 'Donna Lee' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
By recording HD/widescreen and then transferring to regulah, you
managed to lose about 15 pounds. Sweet!
--
Dogmatism kills jazz. Iconoclasm kills rock. Rock dulls scissors.
Joe Giglio
I thought you might enjoy these recently uploaded videos:
'Donna Lee' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
My other videos can be found at: www.youtube.com/joegig
Pace e Amore,
Joe Giglio
Joe Finn
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"Joe Giglio" <joeg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I thought you might enjoy these recently updloaded videos:
>
> 'Donna Lee' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
>
> 'Stompin' At The Savoy' http://youtube.com/watch?v=pqcevIOOtz8
>
> My other videos can be found at www.youtube.com/joegig
>
> Pace e Amore!
>
> Joe Giglio
>
Joe Giglio
> Very nice! thanks for posting, Joe! .................joe
>
> --
>
> news:57743db4-0bb2-44c2...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > I thought you might enjoy these recently updloaded videos:
>
> > 'Donna Lee'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
>
> > 'Stompin' At The Savoy'http://youtube.com/watch?v=pqcevIOOtz8
>
> > My other videos can be found atwww.youtube.com/joegig
>
> > Pace e Amore!
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks Joe-glad you liked 'em.
335p...@gmail.com
Great playing...that inspired me to practice. I wish there was a way
to dial down the volume on the talking, though. Thanks for posting.
Steven Bornfeld
> Hi All,
>
>
> 'Donna Lee' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
>
> 'Stompin' At The Savoy' http://youtube.com/watch?v=pqcevIOOtz8
>
> My other videos can be found at www.youtube.com/joegig
>
>
> Joe Giglio
>
Terrific. I wanted to throttle that loud woman talking over "Donna
Lee" though.
Steve
Joe Giglio
thanks!
me too re: the talking, unfortunately it's the reality of playing jazz
in restaurants-at least in NYC-it boggles my mind...
JG
dubyadubyasmit
> Hi All,
>
>
> 'Donna Lee' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
That's the most unlistenable song ever written and yours is the most
incoherent version ever publicized. Why does anybody ever attempt this song?
wws
rpguitar
I dug the tune and the tone! Thanks for the links.
Roger
Kid Kool
Great, just killer, but it reminds me of Charles Mingus annoyed by a
couple of tarts talking over the music. So Chas take his mic and stand
and positions it carefully at the table to pick up their chatter. They
keep chattering, natch. So Chas leaves the stage. Found music. I wa
reading [just to digress mildly] in the New Yorker about an LA club
that ejects customers for talking whil musicians are playing. Why
can't more club owners have such balls? Or ovaries, as the case may
be.
Max Leggett
wrote:
Uh.... why do you post to a jazz newsgroup? If you think that Indiana
is unlistenable .... uh .............
cl...@claymoore.com
It's not just NYC, it's everywhere in the US anymore, at least in my
experience. But heaven forbid WE should be heard. "Um, some customers
have complained - could you bring it down a bit?"
Clay
Another Cleveland Guy
> I was
> reading [just to digress mildly] in the New Yorker about an LA club
> that ejects customers for talking whil musicians are playing. Why
> can't more club owners have such balls? Or ovaries, as the case may
> be.
The Cleveland Bop Stop has a quiet policy while the musicians are
playing. There are tabletop signs all over and they will come over and
ask you to keep it down if your conversation gets too spirited.
Of course, they don't do the kind of business that the noisy,
obnoxious joints do.
BTW, great video and great playing, but next time tell that woman to
shut the f**k up.
Nice Dan from UK
> thanks!
> me too re: the talking, unfortunately it's the reality of playing jazz
> in restaurants-at least in NYC-it boggles my mind...
>
> JG
Incredible Joe!! Burnin'!
I think the talking in Restaurants thing is international I'm
afraid........!!
:-)
Keep it real Joe
Gerry
> On May 17, 2:14 pm, Gerry <somewh...@sunny.calif> wrote:
>> On 2008-05-17 10:44:40 -0700, Joe Giglio <joegig...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I thought you might enjoy these recently uploaded videos:
>>> 'Donna Lee'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
>>
>> By recording HD/widescreen and then transferring to regulah, you
>> managed to lose about 15 pounds. Sweet!
>
> Thanks-I lost them for you Gerry...it means so much that you noticed!
> BTW, what did you think of the f'...ing music?
You sounded fine Joe. Your clearly a dedicated player. Though I always
long for a slower tempo on Donna Lee. It's certainly an acid-test for
bop skills though.
Gerry
Jeez, Roger, I was just kidding with. Every post isn't filled with
malicious vitriol, unless that's what you wnat to find. Try to relax a
little bit.
Gerry
If you think that is an inherently unlistenable song, you have a lot of
disappointment waiting for you in life.
Gregg L
"Gerry" <some...@sunny.calif> wrote in message
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> On 2008-05-17 14:51:27 -0700, dubyadubyasmit <craw...@pond.org> said:
>
>> Joe Giglio wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I thought you might enjoy these recently updloaded videos:
>>>
>>> 'Donna Lee' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVtTHC8-NU
>>
>> That's the most unlistenable song ever written and yours is the most
>> incoherent version ever publicized. Why does anybody ever attempt this
>> song?
>
> If you think that is an inherently unlistenable song, you have a lot of
> disappointment waiting for you in life.
> --
ignore the troll
gregg
Gregg L
On May 17, 6:05 pm, Kid Kool <kidkoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was
> reading [just to digress mildly] in the New Yorker about an LA club
> that ejects customers for talking whil musicians are playing. Why
> can't more club owners have such balls? Or ovaries, as the case may
> be.
I frequent Catalina's in Hollywood, and apparently mgmt there is willing to
do it. Ironically, I took out a dude who wouldn't shut his yap during a
Kenny Garrett gig after escalating polite to non-polite requests. I offered
not to return to the club, having been such an awhole, treating it like a
Bakersfield beer-and-shots C&W bar with a net across the stage, but was
assured I was welcomed back. Where the guy was sitting the mgr couldn't see
or hear him. All I had to do was ask the and it would've been taken care
of. Mgr. told me he tries to be proactive with that kind of patron. When
I'm not there, it's a great place!
Gregg
rpguitar
But there is much more distracting unpleasantness in the group these
days, and I am not sure why...
Play on though.
RP
Gerry
> Wasn't you I was responding to Gerry - it was the "dubya" guy.
I figured that out eventually. The thread has bifurcated. I think
that's the word I've been waiting a lifetime to use.
> But there is much more distracting unpleasantness in the group these
> days, and I am not sure why...
You might need to up your vitamin C. Didn't help me, but you might be
different.
> Play on though.
Done.
Joe Finn
"dubyadubyasmit" <craw...@pond.org> wrote
>
> That's the most unlistenable song ever written and yours is the most
> incoherent version ever publicized. Why does anybody ever attempt this
> song?
>
> wws
WWS: Let this be a lesson to you in how to deal with disillusionment, dashed
hopes, dissatisfaction, vexation, etc. We play this song specifically to
multiply your mortification and compound your agony.
Suffer. .......joe
dubyadubyasmit
>
> thanks-finally i've found the perfect quote for my resume-may i use it?
No. No until you put up a "clean" version on YouTube and I can see if
the unintelligibility is a consequence of the way you play. "Donna Lee"
is bebop at its lowest; however, some people can interpret it
tastefully. "Donna Lee" in some crowded bar, drowned out by patrons who
aren't even interested in trying to guess the name of the song might as
well be "Giant Steps," backwards, with all the thirds flatted.
wws
Joe Finn
> "Donna Lee" is bebop at its lowest;
And you, Miss Smit, are a beetle-headed, flap-ear'd wench.
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries.
Take that! ...joe
Five Sharp
> But there is much more distracting unpleasantness in the group these
> days, and I am not sure why...
Because it's not a real group, just like any newsgroup isn't a real group.
Any random by-passer is just as much part of it as the long standing
regular. There is hardly any "we" feeling which is usually there in a real
(non-virtual) group. You know, something that bonds. This is just a random
encounter of individuals who may or may not have something in common.
I'm convinced that these days there are quite a few posters here that do not
play or even like jazz. They just like participating for some weird reason.
#####
Rick Stone
From: "Gerry" <some...@sunny.calif>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: 'Donna Lee' Joe Giglio-new video on youtube...
> On 2008-05-17 19:28:15 -0700, rpguitar <rpgu...@gmail.com> said:
>
>> Wasn't you I was responding to Gerry - it was the "dubya" guy.
>
> I figured that out eventually. The thread has bifurcated. I think that's
> the word I've been waiting a lifetime to use.
Damn, now I've got to get a dictionary out just to read usenet?
Main Entry: bi·fur·cate
Pronunciation: \'bi-(?)f?r-?kat, bi-'f?r-\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): bi·fur·cat·ed; bi·fur·cat·ing
Etymology: Medieval Latin bifurcatus, past participle of bifurcare, from
Latin bifurcus two-pronged, from bi- + furca fork
Date: 1615
transitive verb : to cause to divide into two branches or parts intransitive
verb : to divide into two branches or parts
- bi·fur·cate \(?)bi-'f?r-k?t, -?kat; 'bi-(?)f?r-?kat\ adjective
Rick Stone
well observed. I mean, if people are paying between $20-45 cover per
person, per set, and then a minimum, they don't want to hear some idiot at
the next table yacking during the show. But at the smaller places and
restaurants, it's a different story. Some enlightened few like The Bar Next
Door at La Lanterna do institute a quiet policy during the music.
I think that Bradley's was the first one I ever remember actually having
signs on the table asking people not to talk during the sets.
Musically Yours,
Rick Stone
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"Another Cleveland Guy" <jgi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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pmfan57
> The major jazz clubs in NYC all seem to have a quiet policy which is pretty
> well observed. I mean, if people are paying between $20-45 cover per
> person, per set, and then a minimum, they don't want to hear some idiot at
> the next table yacking during the show. But at the smaller places and
> restaurants, it's a different story. Some enlightened few like The Bar Next
> Door at La Lanterna do institute a quiet policy during the music.
>
> I think that Bradley's was the first one I ever remember actually having
> signs on the table asking people not to talk during the sets.
>
> Musically Yours,
> Rick Stone
> website:http://www.rickstone.com
> Visit me on MySpace at:http://www.myspace.com/rickstonemusic
> Check out my Electronic Press-Kit online at:http://www.sonicbids.com/rickstone
> On May 17, 6:05 pm, Kid Kool <kidkoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was
> > reading [just to digress mildly] in the New Yorker about an LA club
> > that ejects customers for talking whil musicians are playing. Why
> > can't more club owners have such balls? Or ovaries, as the case may
> > be.
>
> The Cleveland Bop Stop has a quiet policy while the musicians are
> playing. There are tabletop signs all over and they will come over and
> ask you to keep it down if your conversation gets too spirited.
>
> Of course, they don't do the kind of business that the noisy,
> obnoxious joints do.
>
> BTW, great video and great playing, but next time tell that woman to
> shut the f**k up.
In some non-pro recordings from clubs, you get the feeling that maybe
the "loud" person just happened to be sitting near the microphone.
But this woman does seem loud enough to have projected even to the
stage.
pmfan57
Right. If you don't even like jazz guitar, you have no business
posting here at all. I don't go over and post at the retro disco
newsgroup. BUT, I think a really good thing to do is for the regulars
to completely ignore the occasional nitwit. It seems like they bait
the usually more sensible regulars into defending things that don't
need defending.
Then there are the posters that used to make sense years ago, but now,
under a different name, post mostly really strange comments.
Gerry
> "Donna Lee" is bebop at its lowest; however, some people can interpret
> it tastefully.
This assumes there must be a "bebop at its highest". What would that
be? You're certainly entitled to a viewpoint, but I assume it has no
reasoned foundation. If so, you'd have to explain to me why Donna Lee
is "low" while, say, "Confirmation", "Ornithology" or something else is
deemed "high". What separates them fundamentally?
> "Donna Lee" in some crowded bar, drowned out by patrons who aren't even
> interested in trying to guess the name of the song might as well be
> "Giant Steps," backwards, with all the thirds flatted.
This logic would have us discarding early Louis Armstrong as it was
recorded poorly, technologically, via the acoustic system. As such,
there are a lot of inhibiting audio artifacts. Good music, honestly
played, is what is is, whether it's done in a subway station, or in a
public restroom, whether people are trying to hustle ass or crack.
Honestly, you think that hanging Picasso's "Guernica" in a rowdy
backyard BBQ changes the art itself?
Now Joe's performance may not be high art, low art or even art, and
people talking loud may be a real distraction. But unless Joe was
concerned with it, it doesn't change the art.
Five Sharp
> BUT, I think a really good thing to do is for the regulars
> to completely ignore the occasional nitwit. It seems like they bait
> the usually more sensible regulars into defending things that don't
> need defending.
Yeah, these days it's perfectly possible here that you will start a heated
debate with a 16-year-old metallica fan who thinks the Dire Straits play
jazz. You have to bear that in mind before you invest in something like
this.
#####
Rick Stone
Go Joe!
"Joe Giglio" <joeg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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dear mr. dubya
i'm sorry for willing those people to talk-what was i thinking?!
just thought you should know-i'm cancelling everything & from now on
will be practicing my technique, expression, interpretation, etc, to
work up a 'clean' version of donna lee just for You-or better yet-let
me know what tune, be-bop or otherwise, you like & i will work on
that.
oh mr. dubya, i just want you to like me & my music-if you are in the
ny/metropolitan area, can i study with you?!
i'm signing off now to resume meditating on you & your greatness...
with reverence,
Joe G.
Rick Stone
around at the bar having a beer sharing stories about the profession. Every
once in a while some little twerp who obviously isn't a player comes around
and insults the regulars. Very bad form, and I can't imagine who they're
trying to impress.
That said, it does stir up the group, and while I don't really give a damn
what the troll said, it does generate some funny responses (Joe's had me in
stitches a few minutes ago).
For my part, I'm not that witty, so I just refuse to address these morons
directly.
"pmfan57" <jwra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Derek
> I kind of think of rmmgj as the equivalent to a bunch of musicians standing
> around at the bar having a beer sharing stories about the profession. Every
> once in a while some little twerp who obviously isn't a player comes around
> and insults the regulars. Very bad form, and I can't imagine who they're
> trying to impress.
>
> That said, it does stir up the group, and while I don't really give a damn
> what the troll said, it does generate some funny responses (Joe's had me in
> stitches a few minutes ago).
>
> For my part, I'm not that witty, so I just refuse to address these morons
> directly.
Right. The only bad part is I am not physically present to smack them
upside the head when they do so.
Probably would be more like me pulling Max off of them before he kills
again. :-)
Another Cleveland Guy
> I'm convinced that these days there are quite a few posters here that do not
> play or even like jazz. They just like participating for some weird reason.
Oh yeah, that's for sure. It's apparent to me that the reason has a
lot to do with provoking a strong reaction from otherwise sensible
people.
For trolls looking for sensible people to bait into an outrageous
response, this newsgroup is pretty low hanging fruit.
Jonathan
Gerry
> On May 18, 7:39 am, "Five Sharp" <hjgonst...@onsbrabantnet.nl> wrote:
>>> But there is much more distracting unpleasantness in the group these
>>> days, and I am not sure why...
>>
>> Because it's not a real group, just like any newsgroup isn't a real group.
>> Any random by-passer is just as much part of it as the long standing
>> regular. There is hardly any "we" feeling which is usually there in a real
>> (non-virtual) group. You know, something that bonds. This is just a random
>> encounter of individuals who may or may not have something in common.
>>
>> I'm convinced that these days there are quite a few posters here that do not
>> play or even like jazz. They just like participating for some weird reason.
>>
>> #####
>
> Right. If you don't even like jazz guitar, you have no business
> posting here at all. I don't go over and post at the retro disco
> newsgroup.
But there is no such group! I think guitarists, jazz and otherwise
read and notice this group because there is so little content in other
music, jazz, guitar newsgroups. They are noise 85% or more. Here we
certainly have noise, but we generally retain a civil crew that
generally stays on point. So they come here even when their interests
only overlap at 10%.
> BUT, I think a really good thing to do is for the regulars
> to completely ignore the occasional nitwit. It seems like they bait
> the usually more sensible regulars into defending things that don't
> need defending.
True enough, but when somebody badraps a confrere it's just damned
difficult to not come to their defense.
Gerry
You're exaggerating, of course. That's exactly what will NOT produce a
heated discussion. Bad rapping Scofield will, though.
Joe Finn
>
> I'm convinced that these days there are quite a few posters here that do
> not play or even like jazz. They just like participating for some weird
> reason.
I think that's been true for some time as well. ....joe
Joe Finn
>
> Yeah, these days it's perfectly possible here that you will start a heated
> debate with a 16-year-old metallica fan who thinks the Dire Straits play
> jazz. You have to bear that in mind before you invest in something like
> this.
That's too funny!!! 8-) .....joe
Joe Finn
"Rick Stone" <rick...@rickstone.com> wrote in message
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>I kind of think of rmmgj as the equivalent to a bunch of musicians standing
>around at the bar having a beer sharing stories about the profession.
>Every once in a while some little twerp who obviously isn't a player comes
>around and insults the regulars. Very bad form, and I can't imagine who
>they're trying to impress.
That's pretty much it in general. There are insiders and outsiders. It's
easy to tell who's who. ....joe--
Joe Finn
"Gerry" <some...@sunny.calif> wrote
>
> But there is no such group! I think guitarists, jazz and otherwise read
> and notice this group because there is so little content in other music,
> jazz, guitar newsgroups. They are noise 85% or more. Here we certainly
> have noise, but we generally retain a civil crew that generally stays on
> point. So they come here even when their interests only overlap at 10%.
Ah, yes. It's just another day on the ramparts, standing firm in the face of
incivility, noise, and the dreaded latent effects of bifurcated overlap.
8-) ....joe
Rick Stone
newsgroup. . .
"Joe Finn" <J...@JoeFinn.net> wrote in message
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Joe Finn
"Rick Stone" <rick...@rickstone.com> wrote
> There you go, bifurcating again. And I always thought this was a clean
> newsgroup. . .
I'd love to hang around and discuss that but I've got to split. <g> ....joe