Bridge Issue on Guild X170

[dwilliams]

A local shop has a nice Guild X170. I like everything about this
guitar, but the action seems a little high. I looked at the bridge and
the adjusters seem to be screwed down as far as they will go. I know
next to nothing about setup issues, so am looking for some advice. Is
there a way to lower the action, or does this sound like something to
stay away from?

Dave Williams

[jim...@rocketmail.com]

Dave,

The fact that the bridge is high by itself really is no indicator
of any problem with the guitar. Adjusting the bridge is also linked
to the adjustment of the truss rod which is something that you will
need to have a guitar tech do for you. Guild X-170's are very nice
guitars with a 24 3/4" scale length. This guitar is not difficult to
get playing nicely with usually a minimum of adjustment as these
guitars are relatively new and not subject to some of the difficulties
of old guitars. Good luck! jim in Maine

[Joe Finn]

"dwilliams" <wwill...@sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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You would have to check the relief. It probably just needs a rod adjustment.
....joe

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[pmfan57]

On Jan 3, 10:32 am, "Joe Finn" <J...@JoeFinn.net> wrote:
> "dwilliams" <wwilliam...@sc.rr.com> wrote in message

Unless it needs a full neck reset for some reason.

[dwilliams]

Thanks for the replies, guys. I need to get better educated. I'll see
if I can dig a little deeper on my next visit.

Dave

[Joe Finn]

"pmfan57" <jwra...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Good point. On used guitars it's always a good idea to have a look at the
general condition of the dovetail. If the finish is cracked or has other
damage it can mean the joint has shifted or been disturbed in some way.

[Chip L]

On Jan 3, 5:00 am, dwilliams <wwilliam...@sc.rr.com> wrote:

The issue is a design/construction flaw inherent to many X170
Manhattans

I love the X170. It is my main gigging guitar. I've owned three of
which 2 developed the issue you describe. I know of others who have
had the same issue.

I believe the neck is moving up at the joint. you can't adjust the
bridge low enough. You can't adjust the relief correctly. The only
way to properly correct this is to reset the neck. Ouch!

The guitar 'can' be made playable by removing some bridge material
from the 'feet' and from the bottom of the top section of the bridge -
effectively lowering the bridge.

I suggest staying away from this guitar.

Chip L
Blue Chip
www.bluechipjazz.com

[Bg]

On Jan 4, 9:31 am, Chip L <chipl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 5:00 am, dwilliams <wwilliam...@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> The issue is a design/construction flaw inherent to many X170
> Manhattans
>
> I love the X170. It is my main gigging guitar. I've owned three of
> which 2 developed the issue you describe. I know of others who have
> had the same issue.
>
> I believe the neck is moving up at the joint. you can't adjust the
> bridge low enough.  You can't adjust the relief correctly.  The only
> way to properly correct this is to reset the neck. Ouch!
>
> The guitar 'can' be made playable by removing some bridge material
> from the 'feet' and from the bottom of the top section of the bridge -
> effectively lowering the bridge.
>
> I suggest staying away from this guitar.
>
> Chip L
> Blue Chipwww.bluechipjazz.com

I seem to have read somewhere that part of this problem was an
improperly fitted case which puts a lot of pressure on the dovetail
when banged as when traveling by air etc.
It's possible they were just using Starfire cases?
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