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RickH

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:42:58 PM12/21/09
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Maj6th

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:55:29 AM12/22/09
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Rick you have too much time on your hands:)

Maj6th


"RickH" <pass...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bui1NgxEqJQ
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oasysco

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Dec 22, 2009, 5:00:49 AM12/22/09
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On Dec 21, 11:42 pm, RickH <passp...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bui1NgxEqJQ

Kinda like the Peewee Herman of jazz, eh? :)

Greg

RickH

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Dec 22, 2009, 10:43:06 AM12/22/09
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In looks alone, but if you check out his other videos he's got 10
times the talent (as an actor, dancer and musician) and a great sense
of rhythm, as a lot of tappers just tap and dont swing.

guitarannie

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Dec 22, 2009, 11:17:36 AM12/22/09
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Thank you for that.
Beautifully done. Like right out of 1936.

guitarannie

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Dec 22, 2009, 11:21:59 AM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 9:17 am, guitarannie <guitaran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for that.
> Beautifully done. Like right out of 1936.

And I agree with Maj6th LOL

jimmybruno

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:55:48 PM12/22/09
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Can't stop laughing. MAkes me want to leave the music biz and burn my
guitar. Can you imagine playing that music 6 nights a week. No
wonder everyone got high in those days. I'd rather shovel elephant
shit at the zoo

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RickH

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:42:16 PM12/22/09
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From this jazz culture and era came Irving Berlin, George Gershwin,
Fred Astaire and many other greats, and it nurtured great arrangers
like Lyle (Spud) Murphy who moved from this style to the hot jazz of
Benny Goodman. Jazz is a continuum, it moved on I guess, but there
are at least 200 tunes I can list from this age that you just dont
find in any jazz fakebooks, but I think deserve to be there. Murphy's
monumental System of Horizontal Composition (Equal Interval System)
came from his work playing, writing and arranging just this same
music. I think Oscar Peterson was one of Murphys composition
students. I'm sure the people then loved it, as I do.

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drthoma...@gmail.com

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Dec 22, 2009, 10:19:15 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 1:55 pm, jimmybruno <ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote:

There only real stylistic difference between this and what Louis
Armstrong was doing in the early 30s is this band doesn't have a
genius in front.


Joe Finn

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:37:25 AM12/23/09
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"jimmybruno" <ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
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Elephants!!??

Rabbits, maybe.

lmao!! 8-) ......joe

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Johnny Asia

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:15:26 AM12/23/09
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>"jimmybruno" <ji...@jimmybruno.com> wrote in message
>news:bac5be82-3a16-426d...@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>On Dec 21, 11:42 pm, RickH <passp...@windcrestsoftware.com> wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bui1NgxEqJQ
>
>>>>Can't stop laughing. MAkes me want to leave the music biz and burn my
>>>>guitar. Can you imagine playing that music 6 nights a week. No
>>>>wonder everyone got high in those days. I'd rather shovel elephant
>>>>shit at the zoo
>

I think it's cute. I'd like to see them add a tight-rope walker
above the band, dancing poodles, a bear riding a unicycle, acrobats
tumbling across the stage and some dancing munchkins.

nqbqbep

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:39:14 AM12/23/09
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On Dec 23, 5:19 am, "tombr...@jhu.edu" <drthomasfbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

The same could be said for 99.99% of contemporary saxophonists copying
Coltrane, Coleman and Brecker. Or 99.99% of contemporary pianists
copying Tyner, Hancock, Corea, Jarrett and Mehldau. Or 99.99% of....
you get the idea.

nqbqbep

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:48:08 AM12/23/09
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I guess cats like Ken Peplowski, Kenny Davern, Howard Alden and Bucky
Pizzarelli must all be complete idiots for still playing this kind of
music. They would be well advised to take the elephant shit gig
instead.

RickH

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:55:56 PM12/23/09
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I detect sarcasm, but entertainment is allowed to be fun sometimes.
Fact is, I'm kind of tired of no-fun jazz and narcissistic "arteests"
who take themselves way too seriously. Gimme a loud big band with
energy, a Basie-like pocket, and comprehendable solos any day; and
yeah maybe a few entertainers singing or dancing too. If the pocket
is being generated by a tuba and banjo, as opposed to bass and guitar,
so be it, it will simply sound more New Orleans-like. God forbid
someone should actually want to go out and hear fun jazz these days,
they must the unwashed masses not refined enough for the more elite
jazz.

The fact is I dance to 20's, 30's, 40's music three times a week, it
typically pulls in 200 or more people on a Sunday night. And 100 or
so on a Wednesday night. I know of NO other venue where I can go hear
Basie, Ellington, Goodman, Jordan, James, Armstrong, Calloway, Ella,
Herman, Dorsey, Astaire, Kenton, Adderly, Crosby, Van Eps, Lunceford,
Tatum, Nat, Shaw, Miller, Krupa, Carter, and 20's house bands, sweets,
etc. -like bands so consistently as in the dance community.

IMHO this is jazz too often forgotten, somehow I knew it would
generate ridicule and belittlement.

nqbqbep

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Dec 23, 2009, 6:25:12 PM12/23/09
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True art is timeless. But this music is so honest and unpretentious
and so full of love and joy that some miserable souls here just can't
bear it. They'd probably much rather be listening to some arty-farty
kid blowing weird, unmusical lines over some dissonant, unrelated
chords in 17/16.

Johnny Asia

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Dec 23, 2009, 7:14:39 PM12/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:25:12 -0800 (PST), nqbqbep
<isle.o...@gmail.com> wrote:

> some miserable souls here just can't
>bear it. They'd probably much rather be listening to some arty-farty
>kid blowing weird, unmusical lines over some dissonant, unrelated
>chords in 17/16.


Yes, the weirder the better, and I like to sob, scream and slash away
at my wrists with a razor blade while I listen to it. Better yet,
when I'm feeling truly miserable, I do a self-trepanation, after I
numb myself thoroughly with absinthe and ether. We miserable
wretches have a right to enjoy our music, our way, too!

Really though, I think that video is adorable. It's very well done.
I admire them for what they do, but I wouldn't want to listen to it
for very long. It might make me too happy, and I'm trying to get up
the nerve to commit suicide.

Maj6th

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Dec 23, 2009, 8:11:32 PM12/23/09
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Even though I told you, "you have too much time on your hands," I listened
to all his YouTube clips and enjoyed them; I even called my wife in to
listen to a couple. She didn't share my delight; what can you expect from a
woman that has a Disco station programmed into her car radio.

Thanks for the clips and, for what it's worth, I think the "elephant thing"
was way over the top.

Maj6th

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Ric

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Dec 23, 2009, 8:39:05 PM12/23/09
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I thought it was fun as a novelty.

But, I'll take the "arty-farty kid blowing weird, unmusical lines over
some dissonant, unrelated
chords in 17/16.".

Peter Huggins

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:08:16 AM12/24/09
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<<< Can't stop laughing. MAkes me want to leave the music biz and burn
my guitar.

I don't see any guitar in this orchestra, but there is a banjo....

<<< Can you imagine playing that music 6 nights a week. No wonder
everyone got high in those days.

" ... When I think of that music, with that horrible Twenties beat
(EXCEPT WHEN EDDIE LANG WAS ON GUITAR), It's no wonder to me that Bix
Biederbecke drank himself to death."

<<< I'd rather shovel elephant shit at the zoo >>>

Hey, how about the circus? You could play in the pit and then get to
clean up the elephant shit afterwards . . .

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lukejazz

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:01:20 AM12/24/09
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Here, here, I'm with you. In fact I'd rather take some day gig with a
phone company and play music on the side...oh yeah, now I remember why
I did that! I don't have the dedication, drive, and talent to a
career as an artist.

Apparently that's entertaining for some people. I could (and do)
listen/watch JB for hours. I couldn't even make it all the way
through that one clip.

Also that may have been the state of the art at the beginning of Louis
Armstrong's career, but certainly he moved on from there and broke
much needed ground for all of us.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and best wishes to all.
Lukejazz

Graham

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Dec 24, 2009, 6:37:55 AM12/24/09
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In its day, wouldn't that also be the 'pop music' of the time? At
least it was played by a real band.

Now you get Britney Spears and a computer...


Graham

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tom walls

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:16:13 AM12/24/09
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On Dec 23, 11:15 am, Johnny Asia <baying46...@mypacks.net> wrote:

>   I think it's cute. I'd like to see them add a tight-rope walker
> above the band, dancing poodles, a bear riding a unicycle, acrobats
> tumbling across the stage and some dancing munchkins.

I was waiting for the dancing bear when the band began to solo. It was
a big letdown.

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