Ukelele

[John Sorell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w

Trust me...

John

[Nil]

On 01 May 2013, John Sorell <johnDO...@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w
>
> Trust me...

Hot stuff! Thanks!

I was looking for some information about Benny, and I found this
interesting interview:

http://liveukulele.com/interviews/interview-with-benny-chong/

[Steven Bornfeld]

Outstanding--thanks!

Steve

[Mike Brown]

In article <OvydnRnHDNAjDxzM...@giganews.com>,
John Sorell <johnDO...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w

WOW.
I want a baritone uke. I can't manage the little ones, they keep
escaping as I change chords.
MJRB

[Tony Done]

<g> Couldn't help thinking he would have benefited from a couple more
strings.

--
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[Alan D.]

Thanks John, very sweet! So is there a baratone uke in your future? I'll be
finishing up the Serenade I'm on now in the next month or so, how about a
koa/engelman with a double top, could be fun project. I think I have enough
off-cuts to do it w/o cost. Let's chat.
Alan D.


"You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment". - Francis Urquhart

[Steve Freides]

I have a tenor uke, and it came with the standard strings for a standard
tuning - the 4th string is a high G, not low.

I'm having trouble hearing what his tuning is - the bass doesn't help.
Anyone care to comment on whether bari ukes are usually tuned with a
lower G or any other way, or what this tuning seems to be?

Thanks.

-S-

[Tony Done]

Tenors are normally tuned with a low 4th (G), same overall pitch as
soprano and concert:

http://www.ukuleles.com/SetupnCare/TenorTune.html

There seems to be a growing trend to also tune a concert uke the same
way - I do.

A little research showed that baris are normally tuned the same as the
top 4 guitar strings.

[Tony Done]

On 3/05/2013 5:18 AM, Steve Freides wrote:

That reminds me of a story from the time I lived in Darwin.

The city centre was rebuilt after cyclone Tracy, including a new Town
Hall with a concert chamber. The city fathers decided to celebrate the
rebuilding of Darwin by buying a fancy piano and getting someone famous
into to play it - Roger Woodward as it happens. However, no-one had
known that a piano needs tuning when it has been moved, and there wasn't
a sufficiently competent piano tuning in Darwin to do. So with just a
few hours to spare they had to fly someone up from Adelaide to do the
job, not much short of 2000 miles. The concert went very well, but I
wonder if that represents some kind of record.

Saw Leo Kottke at the same venue. The sound was shit, worse than a banjo.

[Tony Done]

Oops, wrong thread. Nothing to see here.

[Steve Freides]

Tony Done wrote:
>
> Tenors are normally tuned with a low 4th (G), same overall pitch as
> soprano and concert:
>
> http://www.ukuleles.com/SetupnCare/TenorTune.html
>
> There seems to be a growing trend to also tune a concert uke the same
> way - I do.
>
> A little research showed that baris are normally tuned the same as
> the top 4 guitar strings.

I think I'm going to replace the 4th string on mine and tune it down an
octave.

Thanks.

-S-

[Steve Daniels]

On Wed, 01 May 2013 17:10:06 -0500, against all advice, something
compelled John Sorell <johnDO...@gmail.com>, to say:

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w
>
>Trust me...


https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=pLgJ7pk0X-s

[David Raleigh Arnold]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:45:24 +1000, Tony Done wrote:

> On 2/05/2013 8:10 AM, John Sorell wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w
>>
>> Trust me...
>>
>> John
>>
>>
> <g> Couldn't help thinking he would have benefited from a couple more
> strings.

Maybe, but it's pure showmanship to call a 4 string guitar a
ukulele rather than a musical decision. When bass strings are
added to a guitar they still call it a guitar if the original
strings are tuned the same as before, but if strings are removed,
they usually call it something else, even though the word
"guitar", or in Indoeuropean (according to linguists) "ketar",
meant "four string". Similarly, "sitar" meant "six string" four thousand
or so years ago.

The guy is a damn good player, but he needs a drummer to keep
him honest. ;-)

Regards, daveA

--
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Technique" which has the best scale set, triads, and
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[Tony Done]

On 6/05/2013 3:51 AM, David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:45:24 +1000, Tony Done wrote:
>
>> On 2/05/2013 8:10 AM, John Sorell wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w
>>>
>>> Trust me...
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>> <g> Couldn't help thinking he would have benefited from a couple more
>> strings.
>
> Maybe, but it's pure showmanship to call a 4 string guitar a
> ukulele rather than a musical decision. When bass strings are
> added to a guitar they still call it a guitar if the original
> strings are tuned the same as before, but if strings are removed,
> they usually call it something else, even though the word
> "guitar", or in Indoeuropean (according to linguists) "ketar",
> meant "four string". Similarly, "sitar" meant "six string" four thousand
> or so years ago.
>
> The guy is a damn good player, but he needs a drummer to keep
> him honest. ;-)
>
> Regards, daveA
>

True enough, the number of strings isn't so important.The your
interpretation of the six bit in the name is new to me. IIRC, "tar"
comes from the "string" in one of the indo-european languages. I thought
that six was a relatively recent innovation in guitars - ie that the
origin of the name predated the current number of strings.

[Tony Done]

Did you look at that one of Jason Vieaux playing Jobim in rmcg? I really
liked that, and I thought the guitar tone was outstanding. Just what I
would want if a ever spent big $ on a nylon string.

[Mike Brown]

In article <klujb0$cku$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> On 3/05/2013 5:18 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> > John Sorell wrote:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tNYRBwBK0w
> >>
> >> Trust me...
> >>
> >> John
> >
> > I have a tenor uke, and it came with the standard strings for a standard
> > tuning - the 4th string is a high G, not low.
> >
> > I'm having trouble hearing what his tuning is - the bass doesn't help.
> > Anyone care to comment on whether bari ukes are usually tuned with a
> > lower G or any other way, or what this tuning seems to be?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -S-
> >
> >
>
> Tenors are normally tuned with a low 4th (G), same overall pitch as
> soprano and concert:
>
> http://www.ukuleles.com/SetupnCare/TenorTune.html
>
> There seems to be a growing trend to also tune a concert uke the same
> way - I do.
>
> A little research showed that baris are normally tuned the same as the
> top 4 guitar strings.

One one of his other videos it tells you just that, but with a high D.
MJRB

[Tony Done]

Interesting that he is using a high D - <g> which (for DRA) makes it a
uke not a 4-string guitar.

Replaced the cheap pegs with tuning machines on my reso uke at the w/e.
Bigger job than I thought, because the headstock was too thick and I had
to take over 2 mm off the back of it. It worked out well in the end
though, and I spent most of the remainder of the w/e working up some
arrangements for it. Buddy Holly's "Heartbeat" is coming along nicely
from a cold start, lotsa little double stops.

[gtr]

On 2013-05-06 02:18:50 +0000, Tony Done said:

>> One one of his other videos it tells you just that, but with a high D.
>

> Interesting that he is using a high D - <g> which (for DRA) makes it a
> uke not a 4-string guitar.

That's not the traditional tuning for a bari, but if you've played
ukulele (and/or banjo and or cavaquinho) for a number of years, it
makes sense that you'd drop the high string a whole step to get
comfortable.

Wiki tells us that sitar came from the Persian instrument named "setar"
meaning three strings.

I was thinkning about buyin a sitar after listening to a lot of Indian
music for a couple of years. Then I was diverted by the sarod. Trying
to sort it out between the two I then got enthralled with the sarangi,
which sounded great too. It's bowed, but I was jerking around with the
erhu at the time so that was coo. Too many options: I rolled over and
went to sleep. Lucky me.

[Les Cargill]

gtr wrote:
> On 2013-05-06 02:18:50 +0000, Tony Done said:
>
>>> One one of his other videos it tells you just that, but with a high D.
>>
>> Interesting that he is using a high D - <g> which (for DRA) makes it a
>> uke not a 4-string guitar.
>
> That's not the traditional tuning for a bari, but if you've played
> ukulele (and/or banjo and or cavaquinho) for a number of years, it makes
> sense that you'd drop the high string a whole step to get comfortable.
>
> Wiki tells us that sitar came from the Persian instrument named "setar"
> meaning three strings.
>

Makes me wonder if the balalaika also came from there...

> I was thinkning about buyin a sitar after listening to a lot of Indian
> music for a couple of years. Then I was diverted by the sarod. Trying to
> sort it out between the two I then got enthralled with the sarangi,
> which sounded great too. It's bowed, but I was jerking around with the
> erhu at the time so that was coo. Too many options: I rolled over and
> went to sleep. Lucky me.
>
>

--
Les Cargill

[Tony Done]

On 7/05/2013 3:20 AM, Les Cargill wrote:
> gtr wrote:
>> On 2013-05-06 02:18:50 +0000, Tony Done said:
>>
>>>> One one of his other videos it tells you just that, but with a high D.
>>>
>>> Interesting that he is using a high D - <g> which (for DRA) makes it a
>>> uke not a 4-string guitar.
>>
>> That's not the traditional tuning for a bari, but if you've played
>> ukulele (and/or banjo and or cavaquinho) for a number of years, it makes
>> sense that you'd drop the high string a whole step to get comfortable.
>>
>> Wiki tells us that sitar came from the Persian instrument named "setar"
>> meaning three strings.
>>
>
> Makes me wonder if the balalaika also came from there...
>

Good question. I wonder whether the family tree of all string
instruments has a common trunk? The branches would also be interesting
to know.

[John Sorell]

Alan D. <SPAMN...@dunwellguitar.com> wrote in
news:part1of1.1.C...@ue.ph:

Nope, no uke for me. I did see a youtube of a guy playing a 4 string
archtop that has stuck in my gaseous mind...

John

[John Sorell]

Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote in
news:km6fvt$o4g$1...@speranza.aioe.org:

Tony, Would you post the Jason Vieaux link? I missed it over there...

Thanks,

John

[David Raleigh Arnold]

Exactly. Four courses were standard from the neolithic to the
fifteenth century. The ukulele is not a stripped down guitar; it
is a guitar that didn't change. A low fourth string had to wait
for the technology to make wound strings, or ancient instruments
had to have limited range.

And the ancient Greeks got it backwards. A "four string lyre" with
a turtle back, mentioned in the Argosy (?), was a guitar and the
"kithara" was a lyre. Name confusion also happened with the Banjo,
named for the "banjar" which is a harp and which does not resemble
a banjo.

[Tony Done]

> Tony, Would you post the Jason Vieaux link? I missed it over there...
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>

here ya go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2LhIsO2THM

[Steve Freides]

Tony Done wrote:

> Good question. I wonder whether the family tree of all string
> instruments has a common trunk? The branches would also be interesting
> to know.

Everything I've read suggests not, but rather that the idea is universal
and developed independently in several areas of the world more or less
simultaneously, or at least without one culture being introduced to it
by another.

-S-

[hank alrich]

You're trusted. Nice.

--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://hankandshaidrimusic.com/
http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic

[Mike Brown]

In article <km9pjj$adf$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

Well played but a little straight IMHO (in spite of other comments on
Youtube that he swings).

Here's a song that should swing, but doesn't really. Again well played,
but it sounds like a classical player trying to play jazz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Kw0wAru8U

MJRB

[hank alrich]

Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> > Tony, Would you post the Jason Vieaux link? I missed it over there...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
> >
> here ya go:
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2LhIsO2THM

Fine technique; academically played, IMO. Didn't bother to listen all
the way through. Precisely boring to me.

[Tony Done]

On 11/05/2013 12:26 AM, hank alrich wrote:
> Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>> Tony, Would you post the Jason Vieaux link? I missed it over there...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> here ya go:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2LhIsO2THM
>
> Fine technique; academically played, IMO. Didn't bother to listen all
> the way through. Precisely boring to me.
>

And Mike. I liked it because of the complex arrangement that was clever
without being so for the sake of it, and things like string bends in
Mike's example. Very relaxing and introspective, good for midnight. The
tonal quality also got me in my example.

FWIW, I've been thinking about getting a nylon string recently, the
fusion type with slightly narrower neck and radiused board. I don't
aspire to that kind of playing, but I've got to like the tone.

<g> If ya want rhythm, list to RL Burnside.

[dsi1]

On 5/10/2013 4:26 AM, hank alrich wrote:
> Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>> Tony, Would you post the Jason Vieaux link? I missed it over there...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> here ya go:
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2LhIsO2THM
>
> Fine technique; academically played, IMO. Didn't bother to listen all
> the way through. Precisely boring to me.

Precisely boring is the way we learned it and by gosh, that's the way we
classical guitarists like it! Go Jason! BTW, the arrangement was by
Roland Dyens, not Vieaux.

Here's a guy that could use some training in the correct classical style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC_x28ti2hk


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