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Alan D.  
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 More options Nov 10, 11:06 am
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From: Alan D. <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com>
Date: 10 Nov 2009 16:06:30 GMT
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
So I crashed around on the Zoom site but never could determine exactly what the
difference is between the H4 and the H4n. Anyone have the details or the URL to
a comparison page?

TIA,
Alan D.


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Misifus  
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From: Misifus <rafseib...@att.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:07:24 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

Alan D. wrote:
> So I crashed around on the Zoom site but never could determine exactly what the
> difference is between the H4 and the H4n. Anyone have the details or the URL to
> a comparison page?

> TIA,
> Alan D.

Apparently, the H4n is a bit more rugged in its construction and has a
larger screen, but the biggie is that it's possible to record 4 tracks
simultaneously. That would be the two external input and the two
built-in mics all together.  The example I saw mentioned using the
built-ins to capture the live sound of a performance (in stereo), and
using the externals to simultaneously record the clean sound coming off
the board.  Thus four independent tracks.

        -Raf

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Alan D.  
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From: Alan D. <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com>
Date: 10 Nov 2009 17:44:48 GMT
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 12:44 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

Hot D#*M!!! I've been waiting for that. I want to be able to cover the guitar
with the zoom and at the same time use an external voice mic(s) all in one
pass. I think I need to torched my plastic, gotta go look for the lowest price
now.

Thanks -Raf,
Alan D.


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Misifus  
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From: Misifus <rafseib...@att.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:11:49 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

Great!

        -Raf

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Bill Chandler  
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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:22:53 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On 10 Nov 2009 17:44:48 GMT, Alan D. <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com>
brewed up the following, and served it to the group:

<snip>

>Hot D#*M!!! I've been waiting for that. I want to be able to cover the guitar
>with the zoom and at the same time use an external voice mic(s) all in one
>pass. I think I need to torched my plastic, gotta go look for the lowest price
>now.

>Thanks -Raf,
>Alan D.

Alan--When are we going to see/hear a CD of your music?  On your
guitars?  (What a great combo!)

--------
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David Hajicek  
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From: "David Hajicek" <haji...@skypoint.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:02:04 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

"Alan D." <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com> wrote in message

news:part1of1.1.x$66pgbYWbYw8Q@ue.ph...

Thank you Alan and Raf.  That is exactly what I have been waiting for also.
Now if I can just get my kids to buy me that for Christmas.

Dave Hajicek


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Alan D.  
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From: Alan D. <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com>
Date: 10 Nov 2009 21:45:13 GMT
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 4:45 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

Heh, heh, Oh, RIGHT! Danger Warning Will Robinson!! Tympanic Damage Alert! I
have actually recorded a bunch of stuff but most is just for my own
edification/satisfaction. I did a three song demo tape way back when too. Some
of the studio'd stuff is on the various RMMGA disks, when the latest disk comes
out I'm going to be in deep S#%t with the Texas Gathering group.<BG>

I really need the Zoom for getting some sound clips up on Guitarbench and onto
my site. The Cheeze-Ball mics I have wern't cutting it for straight across
non-tweaked sound bites.


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Bill Chandler  
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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:52:27 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On 10 Nov 2009 21:45:13 GMT, Alan D. <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com>
brewed up the following, and served it to the group:

<snip>

>Heh, heh, Oh, RIGHT! Danger Warning Will Robinson!! Tympanic Damage Alert! I
>have actually recorded a bunch of stuff but most is just for my own
>edification/satisfaction. I did a three song demo tape way back when too. Some
>of the studio'd stuff is on the various RMMGA disks, when the latest disk comes
>out I'm going to be in deep S#%t with the Texas Gathering group.<BG>

<snip>

That's why I mentioned it, Alan...I've heard you do your stuff at
Texas, and on the RMMGA CD's...I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd
like to hear more.

I'm heavily medicated today, I'll grant ya that...but still, I'd like
to hear more...

Bill (bone marrow biopsies HURT) Chandler
--------
... General Brain Failure.  (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore, (O)h, sheesh!

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Misifus  
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From: Misifus <rafseib...@att.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:14:02 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

Bill Chandler wrote:

> Bill (bone marrow biopsies HURT) Chandler
> --------

I didn't know that.  None-the-less, it will pass, and you will be better.

        -Raf

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don hindenach  
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From: "don hindenach" <bounce.s...@driveway.splort>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:00:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:14:02 UTC, Misifus <rafseib...@att.net> wrote:
> Bill Chandler wrote:

> > Bill (bone marrow biopsies HURT) Chandler
> > --------

> I didn't know that.  None-the-less, it will pass, and you will be better.

>    -Raf

yes

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Bill Chandler  
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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:57:14 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 8:57 am
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:00:00 -0600, "don hindenach"
<bounce.s...@driveway.splort> brewed up the following, and served it
to the group:

>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:14:02 UTC, Misifus <rafseib...@att.net> wrote:

>> Bill Chandler wrote:

>> > Bill (bone marrow biopsies HURT) Chandler
>> > --------

>> I didn't know that.  None-the-less, it will pass, and you will be better.

>>        -Raf

>yes

It is better today...sorry about that, I was a bit bitchy and whiny
yesterday.  

And now for coffee...

--------
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kol_isha  
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 More options Nov 11, 9:59 am
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From: kol_isha <kol_i...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:59:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 9:59 am
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Nov 11, 8:57 am, Bill Chandler wrote:

> >> > Bill (bone marrow biopsies HURT) Chandler
> >> > --------
> >> I didn't know that.  None-the-less, it will pass, and you will be better.

> >>        -Raf
> >yes

> It is better today...sorry about that, I was a bit bitchy and whiny
> yesterday.  

Oh, for crying out loud, Bill, give yourself a break!!!  You're
ALLOWED to be bitchy and whiny and yell and scream.  Sometimes it even
helps to do just that.

Big hug coming your way.

Best,
Arlene


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Misifus  
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From: Misifus <rafseib...@att.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:06:10 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

I wasn't scolding.  I can't imagine the agonies you're enduring, both
physical and mental.  I was merely encouraging you.

        -Raf

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Bill Chandler  
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 More options Nov 11, 10:33 am
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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:33:54 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 10:33 am
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:59:49 -0800 (PST), kol_isha
<kol_i...@hotmail.com> brewed up the following, and served it to the
group:

Thanks, Arlene.  I try to avoid it.  But man, that was hurting
yesterday.

--------
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Bill Chandler  
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 More options Nov 11, 10:36 am
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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:36:15 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 10:36 am
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:06:10 -0600, Misifus <rafseib...@att.net>
brewed up the following, and served it to the group:

Oh, no problem, Dad.  I was just looking back at how whiny I was
coming off yesterday.  It is indeed better today.  Certainly not
something I'd recommend as a good time.

This too shall pass...
--------
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hank alrich  
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From: walki...@nv.net (hank alrich)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:30 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote:
> Oh, no problem, Dad.  I was just looking back at how whiny I was
> coming off yesterday.  It is indeed better today.  Certainly not
> something I'd recommend as a good time.

> This too shall pass...

Oh, yeah, I'm sure that was everyone's first thought about you: "Why
IS he whining???"

Not.

You want to hear whining, you ought to hear me bitch about my playing
when I hear it played back at me! Painful, I tell ya...

<g>

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ha
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Tom from Texas  
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 More options Nov 11, 3:08 pm
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:08:44 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
Bill, I thought yall came medicated.  Alcohol rub?  I only take that stuff
by mouth.

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:09:44 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
Did they give ye a tuba feeding?

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From: "Tom from Texas" <trisne...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:10:59 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
Well, if ye want to imagine what he's going thru, just close yer eyes and
imagine having to listen to me play and sing continuously.  That'll give ye
some idea.

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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:01 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:08:44 -0600, "Tom from Texas"
<trisne...@aol.com> brewed up the following, and served it to the
group:

>Bill, I thought yall came medicated.  Alcohol rub?  I only take that stuff
>by mouth.

Sure tastes better that way.  Except for those little pads--those
things are nasty, no matter WHERE you use 'em...
--------
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From: Bill Chandler <dr...@yourown.risk.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:39:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:10:59 -0600, "Tom from Texas"
<trisne...@aol.com> brewed up the following, and served it to the
group:

>Well, if ye want to imagine what he's going thru, just close yer eyes and
>imagine having to listen to me play and sing continuously.  That'll give ye
>some idea.

Nothing like a little perspective...all of a sudden I feel much
better.

Thanks, Tom!
--------
... Evangelists do it with Him watching

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:27:37 GMT
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Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

> ... Evangelists do it with Him watching

> Bill Chandler
>                    ...bc...

I think there's a name for that.

MJRB


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:39:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??

"Bill Chandler" <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:08:44 -0600, "Tom from Texas"
> <trisne...@aol.com> brewed up the following, and served it to the
> group:

>>Bill, I thought yall came medicated.  Alcohol rub?  I only take that stuff
>>by mouth.

> Sure tastes better that way.  Except for those little pads--those
> things are nasty, no matter WHERE you use 'em...

In between a couple of Ritz perhaps.

Glad you're feeling a little better, Bill.

cheers

Paul


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From: hans <anybutb...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:14:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Nov 10, 11:44 am, Alan D. <SPAMNOTa...@dunwellguitar.com> wrote:

I also saw/heard a shootout on the web somewhere between the two and
the H4n was substantially quieter. Worth the money prob but also
considerably more expensive than the H4.

hans


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic
From: hans <anybutb...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:15:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Zoom: H4 v/s H4n??
On Nov 12, 4:14 pm, hans <anybutb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

try here:

http://www.homebrewedmusic.com/2009/03/07/first-look-at-the-zoom-h4n/

thanks Fran !

hans


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