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Cliff
Feb 8, 2012, 2:50:15 AM2/8/12
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Can't stand that bridge......it's like they asked Dali to depict a
slug or a leech.....ugggghhh!! :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alvarez-Yairi-DY-71-Acoustic-Koa-back-and-sides-case-Beatiful-/180809453641?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a19155049#ht_500wt_1156
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slug or a leech.....ugggghhh!! :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alvarez-Yairi-DY-71-Acoustic-Koa-back-and-sides-case-Beatiful-/180809453641?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a19155049#ht_500wt_1156
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David Hajicek
Feb 8, 2012, 2:59:59 AM2/8/12
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"Cliff" <clif...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Dave H
Tony Done
Feb 8, 2012, 3:11:57 AM2/8/12
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"Cliff" wrote in message
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And an epoxied neck joint. I wouldn't hve a bar of it. This, OTOH:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Martin-OM-28-Vintage-Pre-war-Guitar-Holy-Grail-/150748833716?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D8%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6178996090070814567
Tony D
jtees4
Feb 8, 2012, 10:02:40 AM2/8/12
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 23:50:15 -0800 (PST), Cliff <clif...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
Oh yeah. Fugly for sure.
wrote:
hank alrich
Feb 8, 2012, 10:24:16 AM2/8/12
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Cliff <clif...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Can't stand that bridge......it's like they asked Dali to depict a
> slug or a leech.....ugggghhh!! :
However, it's "Beatiful", so may be good for a rapper who decides to try
> Can't stand that bridge......it's like they asked Dali to depict a
> slug or a leech.....ugggghhh!! :
guitar.
--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic
http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShaidri
Steve Freides
Feb 8, 2012, 2:43:10 PM2/8/12
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Tony Done wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Martin-OM-28-Vintage-Pre-war-Guitar-Holy-Grail-/150748833716
You just had to do that, didn't you? :( I still kick myself for selling
my 000-28. It wasn't that old, but it's still be "vintage" because it
was from 1970 or so.
<sigh>
-S-
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-Martin-OM-28-Vintage-Pre-war-Guitar-Holy-Grail-/150748833716
You just had to do that, didn't you? :( I still kick myself for selling
my 000-28. It wasn't that old, but it's still be "vintage" because it
was from 1970 or so.
<sigh>
-S-
Tony Done
Feb 8, 2012, 3:28:07 PM2/8/12
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"Steve Freides" wrote in message news:jguj8d$acf$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
<g> You aren't the only one. I sold a 1925 0-21 that sounded fantastic,
because I didn't like the wide neck and skinny strings at the time.
Tony D
harold
Feb 9, 2012, 1:52:15 AM2/9/12
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:43:10 -0500, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com>
wrote:
I've had a bunch of Martins over the years, including three from the
70s: A D28, 0021, and 0028. The D28 was a terrible dog and I sold it
when I got out of the army and left S, Florida in 1979. I had had the
neck reset by the authorized Martin repair people in Nashville (name
escapes me) and they used the old tried and true cut the fret board in
two at the 14th fret method. After a number of years the 0021 would
no longer play in tune and I traded it to Guitar Center with some $$$
for a Taylor 612C which many RMMGA people have heard me play. Al Sato
says that it's a guitar that he would like to have for its tonal
qualities. It's at least 10^4 better than the 0021 although the 0021
did have it's features. I still own the 0028, but we need not go into
that. I've owned two Martins that I though were really good guitars.
One I still have which is a 1989 14 fret 00028 that I bought new in
1991. It's got the new style bracing with the adjustable fret rod,
doesn't crack at the pick guard, and plays pretty damned true even
with that skinny little saddle. The other was one of those vintage
reissue limited edition 12fret 00028 that they made in, I think, 1996.
I sold that one to an RMMGA person who was an accountant somewhere in
the western part of lower Michigan. His name may be Abramovitch, but
don't quote me. A pretty true and classy guy even though I think he
did move that guitar along through Elderly a couple years later. He
mentioned that he was going to move to Arizona to retire -- something
about the weather.
Anyway, the moral of this story is that even though Martins from the
60s, 70s, and 80s may be pretty good guitars, (and there is the cool
factor) in my opinion, the guitars made after the changes in design to
cover well known failure modes (like sunken tops, necks needing sets,
misplaced bridges, pick guard cracks, etc.) are (again in my opinion)
actually superior instruments. I know that I can put medium gage
strings on that 14 fret 00028, tune to pitch and just play the crap
out of it and it sounds great.
So, don't fret over the 70s era 00028 -- buy a newer one for
{maybe}less money and get a really fine guitar. Or, one of those EC
models. Those are nice.
good luck and many notes of happy picking.
Harold
wrote:
70s: A D28, 0021, and 0028. The D28 was a terrible dog and I sold it
when I got out of the army and left S, Florida in 1979. I had had the
neck reset by the authorized Martin repair people in Nashville (name
escapes me) and they used the old tried and true cut the fret board in
two at the 14th fret method. After a number of years the 0021 would
no longer play in tune and I traded it to Guitar Center with some $$$
for a Taylor 612C which many RMMGA people have heard me play. Al Sato
says that it's a guitar that he would like to have for its tonal
qualities. It's at least 10^4 better than the 0021 although the 0021
did have it's features. I still own the 0028, but we need not go into
that. I've owned two Martins that I though were really good guitars.
One I still have which is a 1989 14 fret 00028 that I bought new in
1991. It's got the new style bracing with the adjustable fret rod,
doesn't crack at the pick guard, and plays pretty damned true even
with that skinny little saddle. The other was one of those vintage
reissue limited edition 12fret 00028 that they made in, I think, 1996.
I sold that one to an RMMGA person who was an accountant somewhere in
the western part of lower Michigan. His name may be Abramovitch, but
don't quote me. A pretty true and classy guy even though I think he
did move that guitar along through Elderly a couple years later. He
mentioned that he was going to move to Arizona to retire -- something
about the weather.
Anyway, the moral of this story is that even though Martins from the
60s, 70s, and 80s may be pretty good guitars, (and there is the cool
factor) in my opinion, the guitars made after the changes in design to
cover well known failure modes (like sunken tops, necks needing sets,
misplaced bridges, pick guard cracks, etc.) are (again in my opinion)
actually superior instruments. I know that I can put medium gage
strings on that 14 fret 00028, tune to pitch and just play the crap
out of it and it sounds great.
So, don't fret over the 70s era 00028 -- buy a newer one for
{maybe}less money and get a really fine guitar. Or, one of those EC
models. Those are nice.
good luck and many notes of happy picking.
Harold
Steve Freides
Feb 9, 2012, 12:39:47 PM2/9/12
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harold wrote:
> I still own the 0028, but we need not go into
> that. I've owned two Martins that I though were really good guitars.
> One I still have which is a 1989 14 fret 00028 that I bought new in
> 1991. It's got the new style bracing with the adjustable fret rod,
> doesn't crack at the pick guard
That's what mine had, a crack at the pick guard - I lived close enough
> I still own the 0028, but we need not go into
> that. I've owned two Martins that I though were really good guitars.
> One I still have which is a 1989 14 fret 00028 that I bought new in
> 1991. It's got the new style bracing with the adjustable fret rod,
> doesn't crack at the pick guard
that I took it to the factory and they repaired it.
-S-
David Hajicek
Feb 9, 2012, 2:06:15 PM2/9/12
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"harold" <h_b...@Noisehavsi.com> wrote in message
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What changed about the pickguard? Is it now placed on top the finish vs
embedded in the finish?
Dave H
Tony Done
Feb 9, 2012, 2:13:27 PM2/9/12
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"David Hajicek" wrote in message
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There may have been two stages after moving from the pickguard under the
finish. First using "hard" glue to stick it on top of the finish, then going
to weak glue that allows slide and avoids cracking due to pickguard
shrinkage. There is also the question of when Martin went from using
pickguard materials that shrink to those that don't. Does anyone know?
Tony D
Cliff
Feb 11, 2012, 12:13:45 AM2/11/12
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1929-Martin-00-40-OO-40-Acoustic-Guitar-/320846763228?pt=Guitar&hash=item4ab3f514dc#ht_1363wt_1139
All orig., except for the bursty finish on top, which to me looks a
bit thick and syrupy, and is apparently hiding a repair?
Still, lovely little guitar, although their own glowing appraisal is
not to be given too much weight, i wouldn't have thought.
C.
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