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"The Good Ones Write What They Know"
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larry...@hotmail.com
Jan 29, 2013, 10:25:15 AM1/29/13
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Thought some of you might like to read this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/kris-kristofferson-looks-at-aging-in-new-album/2013/01/28/ec7fe49c-672b-11e2-889b-f23c246aa446_story.html?hpid=z14
Well that's a ridiculously long link, but I guess you can see what and where it is if you want to read the article.
LB
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/kris-kristofferson-looks-at-aging-in-new-album/2013/01/28/ec7fe49c-672b-11e2-889b-f23c246aa446_story.html?hpid=z14
Well that's a ridiculously long link, but I guess you can see what and where it is if you want to read the article.
LB
JSorell
Jan 29, 2013, 11:42:58 AM1/29/13
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larry...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:50372e1b-7778-4b66...@googlegroups.com:
Larry,
I read this article last night
<http://www.npr.org/2013/01/26/170202514/the-composer-who-tested-fighter-
planes-and-partied-with-sinatra>
It's kind of a different perspective on a a "good one". An exerpt:
Singer Michael Feinstein says Van Heusen was a man of contradictions,
both in his life and in his music.
"He was a real partier, and yet the romance in his songs is something
that came from another part of him, because I would not say that in life
he was a romantic guy," Feinstein says. "I mean, he didn't get married
until the age of 56 — that was the first time he got married! But then
here he is, writing all these songs like 'Darn That Dream' and 'Polka
Dots and Moonbeams' and 'Love and Marriage' and 'The Tender Trap' and
'All the Way.' And I don't think that he actually believed in those
songs, you know? But he knew how to express what people wanted to believe
in."
John
news:50372e1b-7778-4b66...@googlegroups.com:
I read this article last night
<http://www.npr.org/2013/01/26/170202514/the-composer-who-tested-fighter-
planes-and-partied-with-sinatra>
It's kind of a different perspective on a a "good one". An exerpt:
Singer Michael Feinstein says Van Heusen was a man of contradictions,
both in his life and in his music.
"He was a real partier, and yet the romance in his songs is something
that came from another part of him, because I would not say that in life
he was a romantic guy," Feinstein says. "I mean, he didn't get married
until the age of 56 — that was the first time he got married! But then
here he is, writing all these songs like 'Darn That Dream' and 'Polka
Dots and Moonbeams' and 'Love and Marriage' and 'The Tender Trap' and
'All the Way.' And I don't think that he actually believed in those
songs, you know? But he knew how to express what people wanted to believe
in."
John
hank alrich
Jan 29, 2013, 12:14:22 PM1/29/13
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those targets get mangled.
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Gerry
Jan 29, 2013, 12:47:29 PM1/29/13
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potention problem. ]
FYI: tinyurl.com allows for converting such eager-to-be-broken links as
your example above into something like this:
http://tinyurl.com/anoxu8c
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Music is the best means we have of digesting time. -- W. H. Auden
Gerry
Jan 29, 2013, 12:53:43 PM1/29/13
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On 2013-01-29 16:42:58 +0000, JSorell said:
> It's kind of a different perspective on a a "good one". An exerpt:
>
> Singer Michael Feinstein says Van Heusen was a man of contradictions,
> both in his life and in his music.
>
> "He was a real partier, and yet the romance in his songs is something
> that came from another part of him, because I would not say that in life
> he was a romantic guy," Feinstein says. "I mean, he didn't get married
> until the age of 56˜ that was the first time he got married! But then
> here he is, writing all these songs like 'Darn That Dream' and 'Polka
> Dots and Moonbeams' and 'Love and Marriage' and 'The Tender Trap' and
> 'All the Way.' And I don't think that he actually believed in those
> songs, you know? But he knew how to express what people wanted to believe
> in."
An intereting but somewhat confused perspective. I don't know Van
> It's kind of a different perspective on a a "good one". An exerpt:
>
> Singer Michael Feinstein says Van Heusen was a man of contradictions,
> both in his life and in his music.
>
> "He was a real partier, and yet the romance in his songs is something
> that came from another part of him, because I would not say that in life
> he was a romantic guy," Feinstein says. "I mean, he didn't get married
> until the age of 56˜ that was the first time he got married! But then
> here he is, writing all these songs like 'Darn That Dream' and 'Polka
> Dots and Moonbeams' and 'Love and Marriage' and 'The Tender Trap' and
> 'All the Way.' And I don't think that he actually believed in those
> songs, you know? But he knew how to express what people wanted to believe
> in."
Heusen, and don't know whether Feinstein knew him either. But I know I
didn't marry for the first time until I was 43. A number of people
said, "I didn't think you believed in marriage". I pointed out the
reason that I hadn't married earlier: I DID believe in marriage!
Always a romantic, I was always searching which had it's very good
aspects and its very bad aspects.
Perhaps Michael Feinstein and I have very different views about
romance, love and marraige and how they interconnect.
JSorell
Jan 29, 2013, 1:57:35 PM1/29/13
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Gerry <add...@domain.com> wrote in
news:201301290953433143-address@domaincom:
Well, the article was about Van Huesen, but I did think Feinsteins remark
on the "late" marriage was ignorant and questioned why the author
included it. I almost started my cut/paste with the next sentence but
thought it would start too abruptly with But.
My focus was more on Van Heusen not Feinstein. Feinstein is gay and
possibly does have different views. Besides his singing, he is a noted
historian and archivist for a classicification of music called the
American Songbook, which I suspect why he was quoted.
John
news:201301290953433143-address@domaincom:
on the "late" marriage was ignorant and questioned why the author
included it. I almost started my cut/paste with the next sentence but
thought it would start too abruptly with But.
My focus was more on Van Heusen not Feinstein. Feinstein is gay and
possibly does have different views. Besides his singing, he is a noted
historian and archivist for a classicification of music called the
American Songbook, which I suspect why he was quoted.
John
Mike Brown
Jan 29, 2013, 4:51:22 PM1/29/13
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In article <XnsA1576F6DC5BA9j...@216.196.121.131>,
helping him catalogue the mountains of stuff that they had accumulated
over the years. He does seem to know quite a lot about the composers and
lyricists of the era.
MJRB
JSorell <johnADDA...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gerry <add...@domain.com> wrote in
> news:201301290953433143-address@domaincom:
>
> > On 2013-01-29 16:42:58 +0000, JSorell said:
> >
> >> It's kind of a different perspective on a a "good one". An exerpt:
> >>
> >> Singer Michael Feinstein says Van Heusen was a man of contradictions,
> >> both in his life and in his music.
> >>
> >> "He was a real partier, and yet the romance in his songs is something
> >> that came from another part of him, because I would not say that in
> >> life he was a romantic guy," Feinstein says. "I mean, he didn't get
> >> married until the age of 56E? that was the first time he got married!
> Gerry <add...@domain.com> wrote in
> news:201301290953433143-address@domaincom:
>
> > On 2013-01-29 16:42:58 +0000, JSorell said:
> >
> >> It's kind of a different perspective on a a "good one". An exerpt:
> >>
> >> Singer Michael Feinstein says Van Heusen was a man of contradictions,
> >> both in his life and in his music.
> >>
> >> "He was a real partier, and yet the romance in his songs is something
> >> that came from another part of him, because I would not say that in
> >> life he was a romantic guy," Feinstein says. "I mean, he didn't get
> >> But then here he is, writing all these songs like 'Darn That Dream'
> >> and 'Polka Dots and Moonbeams' and 'Love and Marriage' and 'The
> >> Tender Trap' and 'All the Way.' And I don't think that he actually
> >> believed in those songs, you know? But he knew how to express what
> >> people wanted to believe in."
> >
> > An intereting but somewhat confused perspective. I don't know Van
> > Heusen, and don't know whether Feinstein knew him either. But I know
> > I didn't marry for the first time until I was 43. A number of people
> > said, "I didn't think you believed in marriage". I pointed out the
> > reason that I hadn't married earlier: I DID believe in marriage!
> > Always a romantic, I was always searching which had it's very good
> > aspects and its very bad aspects.
> >
> > Perhaps Michael Feinstein and I have very different views about
> > romance, love and marraige and how they interconnect.
>
> Well, the article was about Van Huesen, but I did think Feinsteins remark
> on the "late" marriage was ignorant and questioned why the author
> included it. I almost started my cut/paste with the next sentence but
> thought it would start too abruptly with But.
>
> My focus was more on Van Heusen not Feinstein. Feinstein is gay and
> possibly does have different views. Besides his singing, he is a noted
> historian and archivist for a classicification of music called the
> American Songbook, which I suspect why he was quoted.
>
> John
He also worked with Ira Gershwin after George died, not writing, but
> >> and 'Polka Dots and Moonbeams' and 'Love and Marriage' and 'The
> >> Tender Trap' and 'All the Way.' And I don't think that he actually
> >> believed in those songs, you know? But he knew how to express what
> >> people wanted to believe in."
> >
> > An intereting but somewhat confused perspective. I don't know Van
> > Heusen, and don't know whether Feinstein knew him either. But I know
> > I didn't marry for the first time until I was 43. A number of people
> > said, "I didn't think you believed in marriage". I pointed out the
> > reason that I hadn't married earlier: I DID believe in marriage!
> > Always a romantic, I was always searching which had it's very good
> > aspects and its very bad aspects.
> >
> > Perhaps Michael Feinstein and I have very different views about
> > romance, love and marraige and how they interconnect.
>
> Well, the article was about Van Huesen, but I did think Feinsteins remark
> on the "late" marriage was ignorant and questioned why the author
> included it. I almost started my cut/paste with the next sentence but
> thought it would start too abruptly with But.
>
> My focus was more on Van Heusen not Feinstein. Feinstein is gay and
> possibly does have different views. Besides his singing, he is a noted
> historian and archivist for a classicification of music called the
> American Songbook, which I suspect why he was quoted.
>
> John
helping him catalogue the mountains of stuff that they had accumulated
over the years. He does seem to know quite a lot about the composers and
lyricists of the era.
MJRB
JSorell
Jan 29, 2013, 6:23:04 PM1/29/13
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Mike Brown <rock...@chariot.net.au> wrote in
news:rockon02-8CF5D5...@news.chariot.net.au:
Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
John
news:rockon02-8CF5D5...@news.chariot.net.au:
could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
John
hank alrich
Jan 29, 2013, 7:13:49 PM1/29/13
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JSorell <johnADDA...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
> could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
> guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
> November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
> very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
>
> John
It's wonderful material, in general, of a very high standard. My own
> Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
> could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
> guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
> November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
> very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
>
> John
halfassed, admittedly non-masterful explorations into the music I play
with Now & Then has been a terrific booster for my musical knowledge and
capabilities.
Mike Brown
Jan 30, 2013, 3:47:08 AM1/30/13
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Gerry
Jan 30, 2013, 9:24:07 AM1/30/13
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On 2013-01-30 09:17:08 +0000, Mike Brown said:
>> Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
>> could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
>> guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
>> November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
>> very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
>
>> Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
>> could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
>> guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
>> November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
>> very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
>
> They are the main stay of my "repertoire".
This is my sole repertoire.
Blind Broccoli
Jan 31, 2013, 5:05:28 PM1/31/13
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On 1/29/2013 6:23 PM, JSorell wrote:
><snip>
Toward the end of his life Dave Van Ronk recorded a CD of standards
called "Sweet and Lowdown." Some wonderful tunes. My favorites: "A
Cottage for Sale" and "Your Feets Too Big."
><snip>
>
> Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
> could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
> guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
> November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
> very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
>
> John
+1
> Feinstein seems to be the definitive authority on Ira Gershwin. If I
> could sing, I would spend a lot of time on Gerswin tunes arranged for
> guitar accompaniment. My wife and I saw him perform with a pianist in
> November. He chatted a lot about his experiences with Gershwin. It was a
> very entertaining. I'm a sucker for the all the standards...
>
> John
Toward the end of his life Dave Van Ronk recorded a CD of standards
called "Sweet and Lowdown." Some wonderful tunes. My favorites: "A
Cottage for Sale" and "Your Feets Too Big."
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