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Bill Hoff

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Sep 28, 2002, 5:39:07 AM9/28/02
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Anyone know who's playing the real tasty acoustic stuff on the new
Nissan(I think) ad? It's real fine fingerstyle stuff, and was
wondering if it's from a recording, or made just for the ad.

Thanks,

Bill

Gozy

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Sep 28, 2002, 6:18:51 AM9/28/02
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Don't know, but I heard it yesterday. I was working in the den and the TV
was on in the next room. When I heard it I thought it was a performance, so
I went in to check it out. Pretty good.


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Downward Facing Dog

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Sep 28, 2002, 9:48:11 AM9/28/02
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I heard it yesterday too. I rushed and grabbed my guitar so I could start
trying to get the flavor of it but the commercial ended too quickly. If
anyone can rip an MP3 of it, I would appreciate it.

Brad


The World Wide Wade

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Sep 28, 2002, 2:55:51 PM9/28/02
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Yeah this got my attention too. Nice playing, good riffs.

-W.

Jennifer

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Sep 28, 2002, 5:55:31 PM9/28/02
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I've been wondering whose music this is, as well. Earlier in the week
I did some Googling but didn't find much, and the Nissandriven site
doesn't have the info on commercial music (that I could tell).

Whenever I see a commercial with cool music or cool anything, I can
usually find it on ads.com. The site has the 350Z "license plates"
commercial archived. You can play it in realmedia or winmedia to see
it and hear the guitar work:
http://www.ads.com/ads/adInfo.jsp?ad_id=4063&us=1302633&pt=0&sr=5

Alas there's no mention of the music source.

HTH,

Jennifer
--
Can't live without music...

RMMGA CD3 FAQ:
http://www.geocities.com/musicaddict47/rmmga/cd3faq.html

Tony Done

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Sep 29, 2002, 3:42:07 PM9/29/02
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Thanks for the link.

Just played it. I think it's the tonal quality which is catchy, not the
riff. It sounds very engineered - reverb etc - but the finger scratches
don't sound echoey. Reminded me of Ry Cooder's "Cold Was the Night" from
"Crossroads" for sound effects. I think maybe it has been slowed down to the
get the ethereal noises, but again the scratches don't sound too slowed
down.

Tony D

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Blind Dog Smith

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Sep 30, 2002, 12:39:29 PM9/30/02
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After checking out the link that Jennifer (thanks!) provided, I
emailed the ad company. Got this reply:
"The music is original created by one of the production houses we work
with..."

If there's enough interest, happy to continue digging....
scott "gotta put that MLIS to use somehow" kiefer

John Chamberlain

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Sep 30, 2002, 12:50:18 PM9/30/02
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I sent an email to Nissan and this is their response...

Dear John,

Thank you for contacting Nissan North America, Inc. and allowing us the
opportunity to be of assistance.

The music was a piece scored specifically for the commercial "De javu" by
Elias Arts.

If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to e-mail
us.

Sincerely,

Soni
National Consumer Affairs


Mark

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Sep 30, 2002, 2:38:35 PM9/30/02
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hmmm
passable art created en masse by some commercial entity.
Sort of where the world is going.
It isn't about the individual artists anymore; it's all about the money and
power of the
corporation behind it. somewhere at Elias Arts is some gutarist that is
pretty good, and he's pretty happy to have credit for his composition go to
'the house.' At least some guitarist somewhere got a paycheck


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Lumpy

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Sep 30, 2002, 2:49:21 PM9/30/02
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[re the Nissan Commercial]

Nissan wrote:
> > The music was a piece scored specifically
> > for the commercial "De javu" by
> > Elias Arts.

Mark wrote:
> passable art created en masse by some commercial entity.
> Sort of where the world is going. It isn't about the
> individual artists anymore; it's all about the money and
> power of the corporation behind it. somewhere at Elias Arts
> is some gutarist that is pretty good, and he's pretty happy
> to have credit for his composition go to 'the house.' At
> least some guitarist somewhere got a paycheck

That used to be what I did for a living. I agree with you
in that "It isn't about the individual artists...".
They're selling cars, not Joe Blow the guitarist. I felt
no shame in playing or singing on commercials. Nor did
I feel any shame in cashing their paychecks.

When I play at a wedding, it's all about the bride,
not me the artist. When I play at a barmitzvah, it's
all about the 13 year old kid. When I side in with
a band or on a recording, it's all about THAT artist,
not me.

lumpy
--
www.digitalcartography.com


Tony Done

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Sep 30, 2002, 4:31:20 PM9/30/02
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Oops! Paris Texas, not Crossroads.

Tony D

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No Busking

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Oct 1, 2002, 6:07:26 AM10/1/02
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> That used to be what I did for a living. I agree with you
> in that "It isn't about the individual artists...".
> They're selling cars, not Joe Blow the guitarist. I felt
> no shame in playing or singing on commercials. Nor did
> I feel any shame in cashing their paychecks.

Precisely.

Loads of people do creative and productive things in their everyday
jobs...because they like doing their jobs well. Next time you see a product
that is well designed and does exactly what it's supposed to, next time you
call a customer service number and they seem to have anticipated what sort
of help you'll need, next time you see a contractor building a beautiful
deck on someone's home, remember that "artists" aren't the only creative
folks around.

Corporate labs fund research and development departments, paying salaries to
really smart folks that often produce patentable new ideas. The corporation
owns the patents...they fund the work, they own the output. The guys
working in the labs know that.

The unknown artist on the Nissan commercial signed on to do work for a
production company...they pay him a salary, and he does his job (and,
honestly, it doesn't sound like a bad one). Seems fair to me.

--
Michael Pugh


MKarlo

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Oct 1, 2002, 8:58:28 AM10/1/02
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>Loads of people do creative and productive things in their everyday
>jobs...because they like doing their jobs well. Next time you see a product
>that is well designed and does exactly what it's supposed to, next time you
>call a customer service number and they seem to have anticipated what sort
>of help you'll need, next time you see a contractor building a beautiful
>deck on someone's home, remember that "artists" aren't the only creative
>folks around.
>
>Corporate labs fund research and development departments, paying salaries to
>really smart folks that often produce patentable new ideas. The corporation
>owns the patents...they fund the work, they own the output. The guys
>working in the labs know that.
>
>The unknown artist on the Nissan commercial signed on to do work for a
>production company...they pay him a salary, and he does his job (and,
>honestly, it doesn't sound like a bad one). Seems fair to me.
>
>--
>Michael Pugh
>

Just out of curiosity, what kind of income would someone in that position
probably receive?

Mitch

No Busking

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Oct 1, 2002, 11:05:49 AM10/1/02
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> Just out of curiosity, what kind of income would someone in that position
> probably receive?

I don't have any clue (Lumpy?), but I'm guessing they make more than a
bar-band guitarist, doing original songs, and playing the club circuit.

--
Michael Pugh


Sherm

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Oct 1, 2002, 11:24:52 AM10/1/02
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On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 15:05:49 GMT, "No Busking" <nobu...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

My friends who don't work day jobs and only place music get by but
just barely ---- figure maybe only a little over $20k per year,
though. Some of 'em give private lessons too. If they had even a
modest salary with a production house and still gigged and taught some
they'd probably be doing ok.

Sherm

Lumpy

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Oct 1, 2002, 1:25:19 PM10/1/02
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Mitch wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity, what kind of
> > income would someone in that position
[commercial muso]
> > probably receive?

Pugh wrote:
> I don't have any clue (Lumpy?)...

Minimum would be whatever union scale
is in that locale, which differs from
place to place. Lowest union scale right
now is (I think) $40/hr. It's higher in
places like LA or NY. Depending on
what the medium and circulation is,
there could be royalties. Union dues,
insurance and other stuff is then
taken back out of that before you
get paid.

To work on radio/TV you have to belong
to the AFM (muso union) plus one of the
actor/technical unions like SAG (screen
actors guild).

lumpy
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Amostagain

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Oct 1, 2002, 3:39:55 PM10/1/02
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lumpy
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>>

For TV & or Radio AFM for sure if you want to get paid but you don't have to
belong to SAG or anything else if you're "just" a musician.


My tunes at:
http://www.geocities.com/mondoslugness

Lumpy

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Oct 1, 2002, 3:50:21 PM10/1/02
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Lumpy wrote:
> To work on radio/TV you have to belong
> to the AFM (muso union) plus one of the
> actor/technical unions like SAG (screen
> actors guild).

Amostagain wrote:
> For TV & or Radio AFM for sure if you
> want to get paid but you don't have to
> belong to SAG or anything else if
> you're "just" a musician.

Maybe it's changed. That would make it
a little easier on the pocketbook,
not having to pay two union dues.
When I was there you weren't allowed
on a sound stage unless you showed
your SAG or AFTRA card to the steward.

Then, of course, you had to pay to park,
which cost more than either of the union
dues..:-)

lumpy
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www.digitalcartography.com


Blind Dog Smith

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Oct 1, 2002, 5:45:00 PM10/1/02
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:50:18 -0500, "John Chamberlain"
<jmcf...@msn.com> wrote:

>I sent an email to Nissan and this is their response...
>
>Dear John,
>
>Thank you for contacting Nissan North America, Inc. and allowing us the
>opportunity to be of assistance.
>
>The music was a piece scored specifically for the commercial "De javu" by
>Elias Arts.
>

I tried the same thing, but went first to the ad agency, and then to
the production house. Here's the production house reply:

"Thank you for the interest on the "Deja Vu" spot.
That piece was composed by the talented Jimmy Haun.
Jimmy was formerly in the bands Yes and Air Supply and now you can
sometimes catch him playing around town. (LA)"

scott

Joe Jordan

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Oct 1, 2002, 6:03:12 PM10/1/02
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Blind Dog Smith wrote:

>"Thank you for the interest on the "Deja Vu" spot.
>That piece was composed by the talented Jimmy Haun.
>Jimmy was formerly in the bands Yes and Air Supply and now you can
>sometimes catch him playing around town. (LA)"

Of course, I had to Googleize the name, and found an
interesting interview with the guy.

Warning: Those of you who are Steve Howe fans (as I am) are
going to find this somewhat surprising, if not upsetting...

<http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/iv/jhinterview.htm#p4>

I remember seeing an Air Supply concert on TV (I think it
was on HBO) years ago, and although I didn't much care for
the band or their music, there was this one guitar player
who really kicked ass (he definitely made an impression on
me). I'm wondering if that was he.

Anybody who can step into Steve Howe's shoes is a hell of a
guitar player.

Joe


--

Joe D. Jordan
Mobile, AL

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