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Tony Done

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Feb 7, 2012, 3:40:29 PM2/7/12
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Is there any functional reason why members of the violin/viol family don't
have any (or maybe minimal) finish on the back of the neck and guitars do? I
can only think of one production guitar like this, the MM Albert Lee, are
there any other made like this as standard?

My old Gibson no longer has any finish on the neck; I like it just fine
except it tends to go a bit slimy under very humid conditions.

Tony D

Alan D.

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Feb 7, 2012, 4:31:02 PM2/7/12
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The intent on violin family instrument and many mandolins is reduce any drag or
sticktion. Often there is actually a finish there such as a light coat or
thinned shellac or an oil sealer that is then buffed back with 0000 steel wool.
I do this on my mandolins, I use TruOil but just a few coats. I like to first
do a seal coat of shellac or lacquer sanding sealer, buff that back to wood
with 0000 steel wool and then rub on the TruOil, maybe about four coats. Let
dry for a week and buff back with the steel wool.

That being said, it is also a fairly common thing for guitar folks to just hit
the finish on the neck with some steel wool for the same reason. It makes it a
smooth matt finish that doesn't catch. Over time it starts to shine up and
needs another buff with the steel wool. After a long time most of the sticky
finish is gone down to the sealed wood.

Alan D.


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Tony Done

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Feb 8, 2012, 4:00:30 PM2/8/12
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"Alan D." wrote in message news:part1of1.1.X...@ue.ph...
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Yeah I think that the question of drag reduction could be applied equally to
violins and guitars. Maybe the difference has something to do with less
stability of unfinished necks - I remember reading that Tony Rice uses
unfinished necks and a very low action, and that created problems for SCGC
when they were setting up his guitar. Or maybe it is just tradition. I
finished an electric guitar neck with a few *very* thin coats of poly
applied with a fad, almost invisible, but enough to keep the dirt out. I was
pleased with the result, but next time I would likely use TruOil or
Tung-based oil applied initially with fine abrasive paper so that it acts as
a grain filler. I finished my kona top like that, looks nice but being
sapele (maybe mahogany) it is very soft and easily damaged.

Tony D

Mike Brown

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Feb 8, 2012, 11:13:39 PM2/8/12
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In article <part1of1.1.X...@ue.ph>,
A satin neck that has developed a "hand buffed" shine through playing
has a really nice feel too.

MJRB

Alan D.

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Feb 9, 2012, 1:08:42 PM2/9/12
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"Tony Done" <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>"Alan D." wrote in message news:part1of1.1.X...@ue.ph...
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>
>Yeah I think that the question of drag reduction could be applied equally to
>violins and guitars. Maybe the difference has something to do with less
>stability of unfinished necks - I remember reading that Tony Rice uses
>unfinished necks and a very low action, and that created problems for SCGC
>when they were setting up his guitar. Or maybe it is just tradition. I
>finished an electric guitar neck with a few *very* thin coats of poly
>applied with a fad, almost invisible, but enough to keep the dirt out. I was
>pleased with the result, but next time I would likely use TruOil or
>Tung-based oil applied initially with fine abrasive paper so that it acts as
>a grain filler. I finished my kona top like that, looks nice but being
>sapele (maybe mahogany) it is very soft and easily damaged.
>
>Tony D

There are some very good things called Wipe-On Poly from various mfgrs. I have
used this on maple fretboards with good success and it can be used on the back
of a neck like the Tru-Oil but only one or two coats or it starts to get
glossy, even the matt finish version. Very durable though, so also a good
choice here.

Tony Done

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Feb 9, 2012, 9:47:30 PM2/9/12
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"Alan D." wrote in message news:part1of1.1.4UDCCln$x0J...@ue.ph...
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Thanks Alan,

We apparently have a product called Minwax that is available at our big
handyman chain. I'll give it a go.

Tony D

David Hajicek

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Feb 10, 2012, 2:39:21 AM2/10/12
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"Tony Done" <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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I've used Minwax on furniture with good results. No reason it wouldn't work
on a neck. It fills pores better than Tru-Oil.

Dave H


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