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DanielleOM
May 9, 2013, 9:57:36 AM5/9/13
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When I play at a small venue, I usually bring (2) JBL powered EON
(Generation 2) 10s, my Soundcraft EFX8 mixer, a small zoom pedal, vocal
and instrument mics. It takes me bring everything in and set up. I use
an archtop and like to blend the passive pickup source with the
instrument mic signal.
Other day, I was at a small venue watching a performer and all he had
was a Fishman loudbox mini. I thought the sound was reasonably good. I
did notice the lower frequencies seemed to drop off substantially as you
I moved off axis from the center. I could not help but feel a little
envious when looking at the simplicity of set up. Not sure if I would
be happy with this as l like to have the speakers on both sides.
What are you using?
I have not really followed the Fishman amplifiers and any competitors?
Anyone take a good look at these?
Danielle
George Weston
May 9, 2013, 11:19:19 AM5/9/13
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Steve Hawkins
May 9, 2013, 12:39:52 PM5/9/13
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DanielleOM <danie...@reply.to.group.com> wrote in news:kmg9q3$n43$1
@dont-email.me:
It depends on the activity and the acoustics in the venue. If you're
just a live juke box in a noisy venue like a coffee house and you want to
be heard above the grinder and espresso machine, you need watts and
speaker coverage.
If you're in a respectful environment that pays attention to the
performer, a good acoustic amp might be all you need.
I play every month in a hall that seats 175 and I never use
amplification, the acoustics are wonderful.
I can amplify with a 50 watt Ultrasound to a 3500 watt sound system with
18 inch subs that will cover a 500 seat hall and configure for whatever
is in-between. One size does not fit all.
The Fishman Loudbox Mini is not a good amp, especially for vocals.
Steve Hawkins
@dont-email.me:
just a live juke box in a noisy venue like a coffee house and you want to
be heard above the grinder and espresso machine, you need watts and
speaker coverage.
If you're in a respectful environment that pays attention to the
performer, a good acoustic amp might be all you need.
I play every month in a hall that seats 175 and I never use
amplification, the acoustics are wonderful.
I can amplify with a 50 watt Ultrasound to a 3500 watt sound system with
18 inch subs that will cover a 500 seat hall and configure for whatever
is in-between. One size does not fit all.
The Fishman Loudbox Mini is not a good amp, especially for vocals.
Steve Hawkins
gtr
May 9, 2013, 6:56:28 PM5/9/13
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years and really like it. But it doesn't have reverb. There are more
features for vocals through the Limo as well. Mostly I LOVE the
freedom of a battery-powered amp!
Mike Brown
May 10, 2013, 12:26:51 AM5/10/13
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In article <av1t3j...@mid.individual.net>,
a while, I've settled on a Schertler Unico. Mine is 180 watts, but I see
that the latest one is 200 watts.
http://www.schertler.com/homepage_schertler/unico-en.html
My pickups are all K&K Mini Western, and my mics are an ADK D5, a couple
of Chinese condensers (large and small diaphragm), and a RAMSA headset
mic. I use the headset most of the time.
What I get is easy portability, ample volume, adequate tonal control
(when It's needed which isn't often), and a sound that is the nearest
that I've heard to "my guitar but louder". I won't discuss what my voice
sounds like, but I guess it sounds like me.
MJRB
George Weston <geow...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/05/2013 14:57, DanielleOM wrote:
> >
> >
> > When I play at a small venue, I usually bring (2) JBL powered EON
> > (
> On 09/05/2013 14:57, DanielleOM wrote:
> >
> >
> > When I play at a small venue, I usually bring (2) JBL powered EON
> > (
2) 10s, my Soundcraft EFX8 mixer, a small zoom pedal, vocal
> > and instrument mics. It takes me bring everything in and set up. I use
> > an archtop and like to blend the passive pickup source with the
> > instrument mic signal.
> >
> > Other day, I was at a small venue watching a performer and all he had
> > was a Fishman loudbox mini. I thought the sound was reasonably good. I
> > did notice the lower frequencies seemed to drop off substantially as you
> > I moved off axis from the center. I could not help but feel a little
> > envious when looking at the simplicity of set up. Not sure if I would be
> > happy with this as l like to have the speakers on both sides.
> >
> > What are you using?
> >
> > I have not really followed the Fishman amplifiers and any competitors?
> > Anyone take a good look at these?
> >
> >
> > Danielle
>
>
> I use one of these:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfUvEkSueQs
> Does everything.
> That is all!
>
> George
After trying a few small amps and having carted a PA around with me for
> > and instrument mics. It takes me bring everything in and set up. I use
> > an archtop and like to blend the passive pickup source with the
> > instrument mic signal.
> >
> > Other day, I was at a small venue watching a performer and all he had
> > was a Fishman loudbox mini. I thought the sound was reasonably good. I
> > did notice the lower frequencies seemed to drop off substantially as you
> > I moved off axis from the center. I could not help but feel a little
> > envious when looking at the simplicity of set up. Not sure if I would be
> > happy with this as l like to have the speakers on both sides.
> >
> > What are you using?
> >
> > I have not really followed the Fishman amplifiers and any competitors?
> > Anyone take a good look at these?
> >
> >
> > Danielle
>
>
> I use one of these:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfUvEkSueQs
> Does everything.
> That is all!
>
> George
a while, I've settled on a Schertler Unico. Mine is 180 watts, but I see
that the latest one is 200 watts.
http://www.schertler.com/homepage_schertler/unico-en.html
My pickups are all K&K Mini Western, and my mics are an ADK D5, a couple
of Chinese condensers (large and small diaphragm), and a RAMSA headset
mic. I use the headset most of the time.
What I get is easy portability, ample volume, adequate tonal control
(when It's needed which isn't often), and a sound that is the nearest
that I've heard to "my guitar but louder". I won't discuss what my voice
sounds like, but I guess it sounds like me.
MJRB
JohnBj
May 15, 2013, 6:06:21 PM5/15/13
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Back in the 90s, I had a Fishman Acoustic Performer Pro. Loved it, sold it when I moved to Texas. Missed it, and was able to buy a used one from Larry (thanks again, Larry!). Only problem I ever had was a loose ground wire. Fixed it, and haven't had a problem since.
So, I have one of those simple rigs: the APP, a basic Shure mic for vocal, and K&K pickups in my 6 and 12 string. Plus I have a stand for the APP, if the venue is larger. Otherwise, it's on the floor, wedge-monitor style, and almost invisibly filling the room.
peace and joy,
jbj
So, I have one of those simple rigs: the APP, a basic Shure mic for vocal, and K&K pickups in my 6 and 12 string. Plus I have a stand for the APP, if the venue is larger. Otherwise, it's on the floor, wedge-monitor style, and almost invisibly filling the room.
peace and joy,
jbj
natena...@gmail.com
May 20, 2013, 1:42:26 PM5/20/13
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On the road I just carry the Red Eye and a DPA 4061 lav and play through whatever FOH rig they have....
Ty Ford
May 21, 2013, 12:29:38 PM5/21/13
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:42:26 -0400, natena...@gmail.com wrote
(in article <85c74aa3-f661-4420...@googlegroups.com>):
I have a double version (for two guitars to switch back and forth)
Regards,
Ty
Try my blog; http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/
Try my audio sample archive: http://tinyurl.com/796z25d
Try my gear reviews: http://tinyurl.com/79q797r
(in article <85c74aa3-f661-4420...@googlegroups.com>):
e
>
> I have a walter woods head and a buscarino chameleon speaker cabinet for
> smaller local situations and when I need a PA I use a pair of Tannoy V8's on
> sticks with a qsc power amp and a small yamaha mixer. I use a red eye DI to
> go to the PA.
>
> On the road I just carry the Red Eye and a DPA 4061 lav and play through
> whatever FOH rig they have....
How're you liking the red-eye?
>
> I have a walter woods head and a buscarino chameleon speaker cabinet for
> smaller local situations and when I need a PA I use a pair of Tannoy V8's on
> sticks with a qsc power amp and a small yamaha mixer. I use a red eye DI to
> go to the PA.
>
> On the road I just carry the Red Eye and a DPA 4061 lav and play through
> whatever FOH rig they have....
I have a double version (for two guitars to switch back and forth)
Regards,
Ty
Try my blog; http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/
Try my audio sample archive: http://tinyurl.com/796z25d
Try my gear reviews: http://tinyurl.com/79q797r
natena...@gmail.com
May 21, 2013, 3:42:22 PM5/21/13
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Ty,
I think the red eye is the greatest box I have ever purchased. I don't go anywhere without it.
It also sounds ridiculously good with passive magnetic pickups for DI recording....
I think the red eye is the greatest box I have ever purchased. I don't go anywhere without it.
It also sounds ridiculously good with passive magnetic pickups for DI recording....
hank alrich
May 22, 2013, 10:00:42 AM5/22/13
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<natena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ty,
>
> I think the red eye is the greatest box I have ever purchased. I don't go
>anywhere without it.
>
Yep, Red Eyes remain on alert here.
> Ty,
>
> I think the red eye is the greatest box I have ever purchased. I don't go
>anywhere without it.
>
> It also sounds ridiculously good with passive magnetic pickups for DI
>recording....
>
units to the Helpinstill piano pickup that Asleep at the Wheel uses on
the road. They'd had problems with low signal levels, nasty sound,
noise. All of that gone in a whack. Whole new deal.
The Helpinstill is essentially three great big single coil pickups.
Charlie is presently working out the humbucker version, to address
modern environments and the loads of interference out there now.
--
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Les Cargill
May 22, 2013, 1:32:46 PM5/22/13
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hank alrich wrote:
> <natena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ty,
>>
>> I think the red eye is the greatest box I have ever purchased. I don't go
>> anywhere without it.
>>
>
> Yep, Red Eyes remain on alert here.
>
>> It also sounds ridiculously good with passive magnetic pickups for DI
>> recording....
>>
>
> It sure does. Beyond that, not long ago we fitted three of the Dee-Eye
> units to the Helpinstill piano pickup that Asleep at the Wheel uses on
> the road. They'd had problems with low signal levels, nasty sound,
> noise. All of that gone in a whack. Whole new deal.
>
> The Helpinstill is essentially three great big single coil pickups.
So it's probably > 1 meghohm each then? That's a considerable quantity
> <natena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ty,
>>
>> I think the red eye is the greatest box I have ever purchased. I don't go
>> anywhere without it.
>>
>
> Yep, Red Eyes remain on alert here.
>
>> It also sounds ridiculously good with passive magnetic pickups for DI
>> recording....
>>
>
> It sure does. Beyond that, not long ago we fitted three of the Dee-Eye
> units to the Helpinstill piano pickup that Asleep at the Wheel uses on
> the road. They'd had problems with low signal levels, nasty sound,
> noise. All of that gone in a whack. Whole new deal.
>
> The Helpinstill is essentially three great big single coil pickups.
of wire...
> Charlie is presently working out the humbucker version, to address
> modern environments and the loads of interference out there now.
>
digital pianos better than the real thing, unless the real thing
is a very very nice piano. So that's a bias.
Now I want to connect a Helpinstill-enabled piano to a big ole Marshall
and see how the feedback would work out...
--
Les Cargill
Randall Wolfenberger
Jun 3, 2013, 4:35:10 AM6/3/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:57:36 AM UTC-8, DanielleOM wrote:
> When I play at a small venue, I usually bring (2) JBL powered EON
>
> (Generation 2) 10s, my Soundcraft EFX8 mixer, a small zoom pedal, vocal
>
> and instrument mics. It takes me bring everything in and set up. I use
>
> an archtop and like to blend the passive pickup source with the
>
> instrument mic signal.
>
>
>
> Other day, I was at a small venue watching a performer and all he had
>
> was a Fishman loudbox mini. I thought the sound was reasonably good. I
>
> did notice the lower frequencies seemed to drop off substantially as you
>
> I moved off axis from the center. I could not help but feel a little
>
> envious when looking at the simplicity of set up. Not sure if I would
>
> be happy with this as l like to have the speakers on both sides.
>
I definitely like having a board. The ProFX8 has been working for me for the past 2 years, more than enough channels for combination passive/active micing. It's nice and light, about 8 lbs. I use a pair of Behringer 200-watts. Surprisingly rich lows for the price. This setup ran me about $600. Any venue too large for this rig should definitely have its own system.
> When I play at a small venue, I usually bring (2) JBL powered EON
>
> (Generation 2) 10s, my Soundcraft EFX8 mixer, a small zoom pedal, vocal
>
> and instrument mics. It takes me bring everything in and set up. I use
>
> an archtop and like to blend the passive pickup source with the
>
> instrument mic signal.
>
>
>
> Other day, I was at a small venue watching a performer and all he had
>
> was a Fishman loudbox mini. I thought the sound was reasonably good. I
>
> did notice the lower frequencies seemed to drop off substantially as you
>
> I moved off axis from the center. I could not help but feel a little
>
> envious when looking at the simplicity of set up. Not sure if I would
>
> be happy with this as l like to have the speakers on both sides.
>
Tom Hendricks / Musea
Jun 4, 2013, 10:57:36 AM6/4/13
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> What are you using?
When I play the Inwood Lounge - the bar inside the Inwood Theater - about 20 tables and bar - I don't use anything. I play my standard guitar and sing. People seem to love the back to basics playing.
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