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Tony Done

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May 18, 2013, 6:42:35 PM5/18/13
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Took a 3-hour drive to find a repairer whose credentials looked good, to
have the bridge reglued on my old (1935) L-00. I'm not sure what he did,
but the action is now back about where it was 20 years ago, it has a new
saddle and also sounds substantially brighter in the bass (with the same
pre-work strings) than it did before. So much brighter in fact, I'm
going to have to look for warmer strings (any suggestions? - Currently
JP PB Lights). I thought it was finally reaching its use-by date, and
was considering selling it as-is, but it is now back up to full speed.
What a bargain for $110, including parts.
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Tony Done

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jtees4

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May 18, 2013, 8:24:19 PM5/18/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:42:35 +1000, Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>Took a 3-hour drive to find a repairer whose credentials looked good, to
>have the bridge reglued on my old (1935) L-00. I'm not sure what he did,
>but the action is now back about where it was 20 years ago, it has a new
>saddle and also sounds substantially brighter in the bass (with the same
>pre-work strings) than it did before. So much brighter in fact, I'm
>going to have to look for warmer strings (any suggestions? - Currently
>JP PB Lights). I thought it was finally reaching its use-by date, and
>was considering selling it as-is, but it is now back up to full speed.
>What a bargain for $110, including parts.

Great to hear, sounds like you found a winner.
*************
Some of my music:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610

Tony Done

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May 19, 2013, 3:22:24 PM5/19/13
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There's a moral in this, for us amateur tinkerer's - get expert advice
before writing something off as not easily/cheaply fixable. In monetary
terms, the $100 fix has added somewhere between $500 and $1000 to my
estimate of its value.

Tom from Texas

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May 20, 2013, 11:15:53 AM5/20/13
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On May 19, 2:22 pm, Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On 19/05/2013 10:24 AM, jtees4 wrote:
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> > On Sun, 19 May 2013 08:42:35 +1000, Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com>
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I have a '18 Gibson L-1 that was too bright for me. I found that
Elixir Custom Lights were perfect for it.

Tom from Texas
ps congrats on yer successful reconstitution of a vintage instrument.

Tony Done

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May 20, 2013, 3:40:53 PM5/20/13
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Might give them a try. But I'm cheap, I was thinking more in terms of
using a set of worn out strings off another guitar, maybe with a bit of
bacon grease rubbed into them.

JimLowther

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May 20, 2013, 6:53:05 PM5/20/13
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Tom, that seems like your cue to offer Tony a set of strings.

Best wishes,

Dr. Jim Lowther

jtees4

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May 21, 2013, 7:32:28 AM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 05:40:53 +1000, Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>On 21/05/2013 1:15 AM, Tom from Texas wrote:
>> On May 19, 2:22 pm, Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have a '18 Gibson L-1 that was too bright for me. I found that
>> Elixir Custom Lights were perfect for it.
>>
>> Tom from Texas
>> ps congrats on yer successful reconstitution of a vintage instrument.
>>
>
>Might give them a try. But I'm cheap, I was thinking more in terms of
>using a set of worn out strings off another guitar, maybe with a bit of
>bacon grease rubbed into them.

I'm cheap too, most of the time. How about boiling the strings?
Besides cleaning them I think it takes the edge off the brightness.

jgoska

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May 22, 2013, 4:35:13 PM5/22/13
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On May 20, 3:40 pm, Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> thinking more in terms of
> using a set of worn out strings off another guitar, maybe with a bit of
> bacon grease rubbed into them.


I like the bacon grease idea. I mean, I would never do it, but
it sounds very folky.

dsi1

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May 22, 2013, 4:53:44 PM5/22/13
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On 5/20/2013 9:40 AM, Tony Done wrote:
> On 21/05/2013 1:15 AM, Tom from Texas wrote:
>> On May 19, 2:22 pm, Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have a '18 Gibson L-1 that was too bright for me. I found that
>> Elixir Custom Lights were perfect for it.
>>
>> Tom from Texas
>> ps congrats on yer successful reconstitution of a vintage instrument.
>>
>
> Might give them a try. But I'm cheap, I was thinking more in terms of
> using a set of worn out strings off another guitar, maybe with a bit of
> bacon grease rubbed into them.
>
>

You could try putting a few reverse twists on your wound strings. Pin it
securely on the bridge end and twist it to loosen the windings. An old
fashioned hand drill would work. This will probably cut down on that
bright, zingy, sound or maybe even kill the string dead. Attach to your
tuners without letting it untwist. That would be the hardest part. Of
course, this won't do a thing for your plain strings.

Tony Done

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May 22, 2013, 4:54:41 PM5/22/13
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Especially if Tom would send me some old string sets well lathered up
with good ol' Texas hog fat.

Tony Done

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May 22, 2013, 5:04:33 PM5/22/13
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Could work, IIRC Doc Watson used to revive his strings by boiling them
and tightening them up in a hand drill.

In fact, the guitar has got less "stringy" as I've played it the past
few days. Presumably the repair work is settling in. I must ask him what
he did to the bridge plate, I'm sure it was more than just sticking the
bridge back on. It has also been going sharp every day, rather than
flat, but there doesn't seem to have been any change in the action to
account for it, weird.

dsi1

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May 22, 2013, 5:21:05 PM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 11:04 AM, Tony Done wrote:
> Could work, IIRC Doc Watson used to revive his strings by boiling them
> and tightening them up in a hand drill.
>
> In fact, the guitar has got less "stringy" as I've played it the past
> few days. Presumably the repair work is settling in. I must ask him what
> he did to the bridge plate, I'm sure it was more than just sticking the
> bridge back on. It has also been going sharp every day, rather than
> flat, but there doesn't seem to have been any change in the action to
> account for it, weird.
>

Beats me why it would go sharp. That is weird. Hopefully, your action
won't be changing anytime soon. My guess is that your saddle is probably
pretty low by now.

John Sorell

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May 22, 2013, 5:50:43 PM5/22/13
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Tony Done <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote in news:knjbak$lt2$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

> On 23/05/2013 6:35 AM, jgoska wrote:
>> On May 20, 3:40 pm, Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> thinking more in terms of
>>> using a set of worn out strings off another guitar, maybe with a bit of
>>> bacon grease rubbed into them.
>>
>>
>> I like the bacon grease idea. I mean, I would never do it, but
>> it sounds very folky.
>>
>
> Especially if Tom would send me some old string sets well lathered up
> with good ol' Texas hog fat.
>

I imagine Tom licks 'em clean before storing them.

John

JohnBj

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May 22, 2013, 5:54:08 PM5/22/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:21:05 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> Beats me why it would go sharp. That is weird. Hopefully, your action
> won't be changing anytime soon. My guess is that your saddle is probably
> pretty low by now.

Going sharp may be due to an increase in humidity, and/or decrease in temperature. Happens to me all the time.

Tony Done

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May 22, 2013, 6:12:02 PM5/22/13
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My thought exactly. Where I live is 850m above the (coastal) repair
shop, so it is cooler and mostly less humid.

Dsi1, the reason I'm so pleased with this result is that the action is
pretty much where it was when I had it rebraced almost 20 years ago. -
The fretboard points straight at the top of the bridge, however the
bridge/saddle is low because of the thin fretboard I had put on the
make the neck less clubby. Judging by history, it might never need a
neck reset, the top has warped into a hill and valley rather than
developing a hump, and the upper bout doesn't seem to have collapsed
any more in the past 20 years.

dsi1

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May 22, 2013, 6:46:34 PM5/22/13
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I have heard of this happening but have never experienced it.
Unfortunately, the humidity doesn't change very much on my small rock in
the middle of nowhere. It doesn't get very hot or cold either.
Guitarists have a heck of an exciting time in most places but not here.
I don't like to go on airplanes with my guitar so there's more boredom
there too.

Tom from Texas

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May 23, 2013, 4:35:20 PM5/23/13
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> Dr. Jim Lowther- Hide quoted text -
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Now, Jim, yall know I don't change strings often enough to keep Tony
in strings! Besides, by the time I change strings they're pretty
rusty and I don't want Tony suing me for giving him tetanus or
permanently stained finger calluses... or is it calli?

Tom (changing strings is too closely associated with tuning) from Texas

Tom from Texas

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May 23, 2013, 4:39:59 PM5/23/13
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such a waste of good hog fat!!

Tom (makin' bacon when I wakin' and my head's achin'.... oh, I'm so
forsaken and my heart's breakin'. I ain't fakin'! ) from Texas

Tom from Texas

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May 23, 2013, 4:41:09 PM5/23/13
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On May 22, 4:50 pm, John Sorell <johnDOTSor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony Done <tonyd...@bigpond.com> wrote in news:knjbak$lt2$1
I generally assign Sue to do that.

Tom from Texas

JimLowther

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May 25, 2013, 6:18:21 PM5/25/13
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Have you ever thought of painting your rusty strings with Rustoleum?

Steve Daniels

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May 25, 2013, 11:26:16 PM5/25/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 15:18:21 -0700 (PDT), against all advice, something
compelled JimLowther <JimLo...@aol.com>, to say:
Which color is the brightest?


Mike Brown

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May 29, 2013, 4:20:16 AM5/29/13
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In article <s403q8lkp20d650kd...@4ax.com>,
I'd use red. It's warmer, and the blood doesn't show as much.
MJRB
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