H4N - again
Mike Brown
afternoon and bought one.
I haven't worked out the instruction book yet, but then I'm easily confused.
I also heard a cheap nylon strung guitar fitted with a Schertler "Basik"
stick on transducer (that is intended for violins and such) played
through a small amp and was very pleasantly surprised at the sound
quality. Mind you I think that the Schertler PU (a base model) was about
$300, in other words, more expensive than the guitar.
I was wondering if it might be an option when I do the sound at open
mics to use for the less skilled folks who turn up with guitars with no
pickups, and don't keep still enough to mic. It just attaches with some
special "acoustic blue tack".
MJRB
gregz
> After listining to you blokes for a while I finally succumbed this
> afternoon and bought one.
>
> I haven't worked out the instruction book yet, but then I'm easily
> confused.
>
Very timely, Mike. I was about to post an inquiry this am about the
H4n. I'm probably going to buy my son a recorder for Christmas, and
this is the early leader, just because there's so much info available.
I was wondering if anybody could offer an alternative that would also be
good. I was hoping he would be able to lay down a track, and then over
dub a little, say maybe rhythm and then some lead with it. My small
mind seems to think the H4n could do this from what I've read. Anybody
else got suggestions or qualifications?
Z
Tom from Texas
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Good googledy! Is this kismet or what? I was talking to Al Evans about the
Zooms just a short while back. I was doing a search this morning on the
computer for the H2n and trying to decide if I wanna put out the $300 for
it. Does it do sound on sound? That'd be amazing for Sue and I recording
some songs. We could add third and fourth instruments and such.
Let me know
--
Tom (waitin' to hear) from Texas
(The Tom Risner Fund for Deserving North Texas Guitarplayers is not liable
for any slander, hurt feelings, pointless moaning, or achy-breaky heartache
any post under this name should cause. Yall want easy cash or sympathy...
ye can kiss my grits!!)
esiegel
> "gregz" <gzink...@yahoody.kom> wrote in message
butt. The H2 does not. If you want something to do sound on sound,
look at the zoom r16. An absolutely amazing piece of gear for an
outrageously low price (399 us). only problem is it doesn't work well
on os x 10.5 or 6. I bought one and returned it for that reason
alone. otherwise it is killer.
E
David Hajicek
"Mike Brown" <rock...@chariot.net.au> wrote in message
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I just ordered the H4N also. I figure I need something to practice against.
I got a Sure M58 for vocals and the 57 for the guitar, but I get the
impression there are better mikes for acoustic guitars.
Your thought?
Dave Hajicek
Mike Brown
So far I've only tried it with the built in mics, which did a reasonable
job at a live gig in a cafe tonight. I just put it on a shelf about 6
foot from one of the speakers and turned it on (I did set the limiter
which cuts in at 6db, as I couldn't stand and watch it).
Anyway I'm sure that someone who knows a little more about mics will
chime in.
I only have the supplied 1gig SD card wich gives just over an hour and a
half in wav.
I've ordered a 32 gig card that should be here on Monday, and will run
it on the mains adaptor whenever I can (a set of batteries only give you
6 hours on stereo, which isn't a lot when you think about recording and
uploading to the computer).
Further info when I've used it a little more.
MJRB
esiegel
I would suggest running it in 192 mp3. It sounds identical to the wav
in this instance (tho I know mp3's are inferior, basically these are
rough and ready recordings and the data compression is the least of
the factors that will affect the sound quality) and you get a huge
increase in storage time, factor of 10 or 20.
E
Guy Snape
It gets its power from the computer while connected via USB. It does eat
batteries pretty quick while recording though - I only ever use mine
plugged into the mains.
- guy
hank alrich
When you hook it to the USB port it should power up via bus power and
not drain your batteries while offloading to the computer.
> > Further info when I've used it a little more.
> >
> > MJRB
>
> I would suggest running it in 192 mp3. It sounds identical to the wav
> in this instance (tho I know mp3's are inferior, basically these are
> rough and ready recordings and the data compression is the least of
> the factors that will affect the sound quality) and you get a huge
> increase in storage time, factor of 10 or 20.
>
> E
Right, but having recently listened in a mastering suite through a bunch
of songs at various resolutions, from 24 bit / 96 KHz wavs to 192 kbps
mp3's, I'm willing to spend for card enough to forget about mp3's for my
H2.
--
ha
shut up and play your guitar
http://www.armadillomusicproductions.com/CarryMeHome.htm
http://hankalrich.com/
Mike Brown
I always use WAV and edit it in Cubase on the computer.
My recordings need all the help they can get.
MJRB
Mike Brown
Thanks Guy, I'd just discovered that. I will only use batteries when I
have to. I'm still slowly making sense of the handbook.
MJRB
Mike Brown
Me too. That's why I ordered the 32gig card. It cost $139 including
delivery, but that's good value compared to the smaller ones.
MJRB
Fran Guidry
> "Mike Brown" <rocko...@chariot.net.au> wrote in message
The mic preamps are decent but not stellar, so the low sensitivity of
an SM58 will lead to high noise levels. An inexpensive condenser will
give better results. The Audio Technica AT2020 is one good choice,
there are many others.
Fran
David Hajicek
"Fran Guidry" <fran....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Fran
_____
Fran:
Now that you mention it, that sounds like what a friend of mine uses. Are
there cheap pre-amps for the Sure mikes so I don't have to be an inch away?
One think I didn't like about the Sure mikes what the frequency roll offs at
both ends. The AT2020 is 20 to 20,000 Hz.
Dave Hajicek
Alan D.
Tom, try Sam Ash. I called them and noted another web page to them that had a
$320 dealie with tripod, card, remote, etc and SA couldn't match exactly but
got me down to ~$280 for the H4n and the remote. Good folks, fast shipping,
recommended. I still haven't located my decoder ring for the manual yet but I'm
sort of beginning to understand how to make it go.
Alan D.
Mike Brown
> "Tom from Texas" <tris...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Tom, try Sam Ash. I called them and noted another web page to them that had a
> $320 dealie with tripod, card, remote, etc and SA couldn't match exactly but
> got me down to ~$280 for the H4n and the remote. Good folks, fast shipping,
> recommended. I still haven't located my decoder ring for the manual yet but I'm
> sort of beginning to understand how to make it go.
>
> Alan D.
>
>
The manual makes more sense after you've learnt to use the recorder.
As a last resort read the instructions.
There is a lot of stuff in there that I will never use.
MJRB