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Madgamer

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:00:50 PM12/27/09
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Tony M mentions the emotional attachment it can bring about in the
owner/player. I turned 69 this month and am what i would call a average
to average+ player. So why would I have a well known builder design and
construct 2 really personal guitars?
am not a pro, I don't make a living with music, my age limits the
length of time I can sit and play. I can't really give you good reason
except I have wanted a matched set of 6 & 12 string guitars from the
first day I started to play. It would make more sense if I could tell
you play out a lot or have a lot of paying gigs but that is not the truth.
At my age I could not have a lot of time left maybe like my Dad who
died in Jan. of this year at 95 I may have 25 years left but can I
expect to play at all at the age of say 90+? Are there any such players
in our group.
Lastly being single I have the problem of what will happen ton these
guitars when I am gone. Maybe I will hold a contest with entries
stating with "I deserve American Spirit(6)/American Legend(12) because.....
I think that the best reasons were put forth to me by Alan D (even
thought he thinks of me as a strummer (must be low n the list LOL)There
is some strong reasons to buy custom built guitars at a MUCH younger age
but I pay no attention to them because I love Spirit and will love
Legend as much and what ever amount of time I have left they will always
be my musical soul even if I am just a Strummer (SIGH)

Larry A

David Hajicek

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:50:33 PM12/27/09
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Larry:

If you can afford it, go for it. I have a guitar that brings me joy every
time I pick it up, even just to look at it and every time I play it even if
it is just throwing some notes together and enjoying the sound.

You deserve that same feeling. Heck. We all do. ;>)

Dave Hajicek

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Mike Brown

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:19:23 PM12/27/09
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Madgamer wrote:

Almost 76 and planning my next custom guitar.

Lots of time for you Larry.

MJRB

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Dec 28, 2009, 4:11:00 AM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:19:23 GMT, Mike Brown <rock...@chariot.net.au>
wrote:

You're doing wll Mike - I'm 53 and hoping for my next day...:-)

Pete

Steve Daniels

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:17:25 AM12/28/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:00:50 -0600, against all advice, something
compelled Madgamer <madg...@mchsi.com>, to say:

> So why would I have a well known builder design and
> construct 2 really personal guitars?


Because you can?


Works for me.

Bill Chandler

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Dec 28, 2009, 10:54:31 AM12/28/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:00:50 -0600, Madgamer <madg...@mchsi.com>
brewed up the following, and served it to the group:

Larry--they bring you joy. You share that joy with the world. What
more can you ask of a wooden box with steel wires?

I have the distinct honor of owning 2 guitars built by Alan Dunwell.
In no way, shape, or form do I come even CLOSE to playing well enough
to deserve such magnificent instruments...but oh, the sound and feel
when I play them! That sweet little OM-12 was with me in the hospital
during my recent ride on the chemo-go-round...even though after a
couple of days all I could do was look at her (that l-asparaginase is
rough stuff...and throw in prednisone for good measure...). Hoping to
be able to pick her up today again and play for a few minutes...my
hands need that.

Yes, it would be nicer to have started younger--HELL yes. (Have great
instruments longer? HELL yes.) Knowing what I know now...there's a
lot of things I'd probably have done different...but having fine
guitars? Yeah, I certainly would have done so earlier.

And later...

I'd better shut up now...need more coffee...
--------
"The trouble with getting a life is making the payments."

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the real one is bc9424 AT gmailspamTHIS! D0T com (if you remove spamTHIS!)
...please check out my music at http://www.soundclick.com/billchandler some time...

Bill Chandler
...bc...

Ed Edelenbos

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:39:31 AM12/28/09
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"Bill Chandler" <dr...@yourown.risk.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have the distinct honor of owning 2 guitars built by Alan Dunwell.
> In no way, shape, or form do I come even CLOSE to playing well enough
> to deserve such magnificent instruments


We've gone through this around here before... "deserve" is not part of the
equation.

if "deserve" was based on playing well enough, I'm not sure I could keep the
$20 uke hung on the wall as a decoration!

Ed

Bill Chandler

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:49:46 AM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:39:31 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos"
<ed...@spookeasy.net> brewed up the following, and served it to the
group:

>
>

Well, yeah...I just get stuck on that sometimes. Been in kind of a
playing slump recently...well, an EVERYTHING slump...but this too
shall pass.

Back on my head...getting some work done...

--------
"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism, to steal ideas from many is research."

hank alrich

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:22:54 PM12/28/09
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persisten...@yahoo.com

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:33:49 PM12/28/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:39:31 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos"
<ed...@spookeasy.net> wrote:

Personally I believe I deserve the best guitars I can lay my hands on,
and so does everyone else.

Pete

Alan D.

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:22:44 PM12/28/09
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Madgamer <madg...@mchsi.com> wrote:
<<<snipage of good stuff>>>

> I think that the best reasons were put forth to me by Alan D (even
>thought he thinks of me as a strummer (must be low n the list LOL)There
>is some strong reasons to buy custom built guitars at a MUCH younger age
>but I pay no attention to them because I love Spirit and will love
>Legend as much and what ever amount of time I have left they will always
>be my musical soul even if I am just a Strummer (SIGH)
>
>Larry A

Ooops, you mis-heard me Larry. I was referring to another guy that just bought
one of my instruments. _HE_ described himself as a "strummer" and it was in a
non-pejorative way. I was just referencing him since he is older than both of
us and still wanted a custom guitar. What I was trying to indicate, and I think
you did understand that part, is that the age or ability has little or nothing
to do with why most non-pro folks buy a custom guitar. It is the pleasure of
holding/feeling/playing/hearing a thing of beauty that brings you pleasure each
time. I always have maintained that having a fine guitar, custom or no, makes a
better player in the long run because it is easier to play and more pleasurable
to play so you play more. This makes you better so you want to play even more.
Circular logic perhaps. So Strum On <BG>!!

Alan D.


"I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you
realize that what you heard is not what I meant." Anonymous

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...[repeat as above]

Madgamer

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:15:39 PM12/28/09
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On 12/28/2009 12:22 PM, Alan D. wrote

> Ooops, you mis-heard me Larry. I was referring to another guy that just bought
> one of my instruments. _HE_ described himself as a "strummer" and it was in a
> non-pejorative way. I was just referencing him since he is older than both of
> us and still wanted a custom guitar. What I was trying to indicate, and I think
> you did understand that part, is that the age or ability has little or nothing
> to do with why most non-pro folks buy a custom guitar. It is the pleasure of
> holding/feeling/playing/hearing a thing of beauty that brings you pleasure each
> time. I always have maintained that having a fine guitar, custom or no, makes a
> better player in the long run because it is easier to play and more pleasurable
> to play so you play more. This makes you better so you want to play even more.
> Circular logic perhaps. So Strum On<BG>!!
>
> Alan D.
>
>
> "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you
> realize that what you heard is not what I meant." Anonymous
>
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...[repeat as above]

HI Alan,
Having had the pleasure of meeting you and having you there when
Scott put the last touch on American Spirit (the pick guard that took
him many long hours to program on the etching computer..your like
family. I knew what you meant and was just pulling your leg a bit.
Attending the first Colorado Custom Guitar Show is something I will
never forget.

Larry A
>

Misifus

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:24:25 PM12/28/09
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Me, too, but I'll drink to most things. :)

-Raf (actually, 67)

--
Misifus-
Rafael Seibert
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafiii
home: http://www.rafandsioux.com

Ed Edelenbos

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:06:51 PM12/28/09
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<persisten...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I like the way you think.

Ed

chaya

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:10:49 AM12/29/09
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first a belated happy birthday!

2nd, I totally understand - I play sporadically at best but am totally
excited that my new McAlister is only a few months away. A great
guitar won;t make you a better player, but it will certainly improve
the experience!

In an art supply store yesterday I was talking to one of the clerks
about a $285 brush. I paint way better than I'll ever play the guitar,
but that price for a brush??? After reading your post, I think I'll
buy myself one as a birthday present next month...

susan


Misifus

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:34:08 AM12/29/09
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I hope it was a nice, big brush.

-Raf

Ed Edelenbos

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:38:23 AM12/29/09
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"chaya" <ch...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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Damn... what we have to do to pull you out of the woodwork!!!

You really need that brush, birthday or not.

Ed

Mike Brown

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:25:37 AM12/29/09
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chaya wrote:

....and why not.

Think how spoilt you'll feel.

Happy next month.

MJRB

Al Evans

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Dec 29, 2009, 7:22:03 AM12/29/09
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In article <9uqhj59d2g68ds8u5...@4ax.com>,
persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Personally I believe I deserve the best guitars I can lay my hands on,
> and so does everyone else.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nah, I don't particularly believe you deserve them. I think you're
damned lucky to have them, and if there were any justice in the world
you'd probably be cranking a plastic Roy Rogers guitar.

--Al Evans--

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:23:50 AM12/29/09
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Where is Cashion when you need him?

Pete

hank alrich

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:42:57 PM12/29/09
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<persisten...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Cranking a plastic Roy Rogers guitar.

HTH

Misifus

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Dec 29, 2009, 1:12:40 PM12/29/09
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hank alrich wrote:
> <persisten...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:22:03 -0600, Al Evans <a...@tbtm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <9uqhj59d2g68ds8u5...@4ax.com>,
>>> persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Personally I believe I deserve the best guitars I can lay my hands on,
>>>> and so does everyone else.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> Nah, I don't particularly believe you deserve them. I think you're
>>> damned lucky to have them, and if there were any justice in the world
>>> you'd probably be cranking a plastic Roy Rogers guitar.
>>>
>>> --Al Evans--
>> Where is Cashion when you need him?
>>
>> Pete
>
> Cranking a plastic Roy Rogers guitar.
>
> HTH
>


Naw, you demean him. He's cranking a plastic Mario Maccaferri guitar.
You know, genuine Brazilian polystyrene.

chaya

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Dec 29, 2009, 6:22:58 PM12/29/09
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it was the fear of splinters really ...

Dorgan

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Dec 29, 2009, 6:37:57 PM12/29/09
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"Al Evans" <a...@tbtm.org> wrote in message
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Al, what do you have against Roy?

dorgan


hank alrich

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Dec 29, 2009, 11:51:11 PM12/29/09
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Dorgan <dor...@fltg.net> wrote:

I blame him for those plastic guitars.

Mike Brown

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:04:09 AM12/30/09
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hank alrich wrote:
> Dorgan <dor...@fltg.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Al Evans" <a...@tbtm.org> wrote in message
>>news:al-5FA526.06...@news.individual.net...
>>
>>>In article <9uqhj59d2g68ds8u5...@4ax.com>,
>>>persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Personally I believe I deserve the best guitars I can lay my hands on,
>>>>and so does everyone else.
>>>
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>Nah, I don't particularly believe you deserve them. I think you're
>>>damned lucky to have them, and if there were any justice in the world
>>>you'd probably be cranking a plastic Roy Rogers guitar.
>>>
>>> --Al Evans--
>>
>>
>>Al, what do you have against Roy?
>>
>>dorgan
>
>
> I blame him for those plastic guitars.
>

and white Stetsons.

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:28:22 AM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:04:09 GMT, Mike Brown <rock...@chariot.net.au>
wrote:

>hank alrich wrote:

My father tried to persuade me to buy a Stetson - in St.Malo, of all
places..strange place to find one seeing as it's still
beret-or-Homburg territory.

Didn't want to spend �40 on something I'd only ever wear on stage.

Pete

hank alrich

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:47:27 PM12/30/09
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<persisten...@yahoo.com> wrote:

My family is pushing me to spend more than that on stuff I'd be allowed
to wear only on stage. What's with these people??

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:15:46 PM12/30/09
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:47:27 -0600, walk...@nv.net (hank alrich)
wrote:

That's a tricky one. Are your family from the
Appalac.appallaci...apallacian..the Virgina mountains?

My family is from Wales and Surrey. You don't see many Stetsons in
either...but there's one, on Daddy's head, in a supermarket in
Britanny....

Stage clothes have to be cheap. they'r so disposable. The hat I was
wearing in the vid we're alluding to was �4 in a garden centre, the
jacket was �2 in a charity shop (actually it's tasty - my wife hates
it but I like it because it makes me look sleazy - this is a Good
Thing when you're playing very slack rock & roll).

I've got a horrible feeling the pants were Ralph Lauren so they might
have been a few bob..G.O.K what I had on my feet - bumpers, prolly.

But..no, stage clothes come from charity shops on a whim, basically.

Pete

Ed Edelenbos

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:39:25 AM12/31/09
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<persisten...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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At one time a local Goodwill store had a rack of red/maroon choir robes they
were selling for about $2 each. I was playing keyboards at the time. They
were perfect for me behind a bank of cheesy combo organs, cheesy Univox
electric piano, Wurlitzer Elec. piano, and patch cord synthesizers. LOL.
Luckily, people (and especially the girls) seemed to look at the garb and
not what I was playing. (grin) Grand days, indeed!

Ed

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:18:47 AM12/31/09
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OMG! Ed Transmogrifies into Rick Wakeman Shock!

Pete

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