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persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:58:21 PM1/3/10
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Apologies in advance for any shit you lot get from me tonight.

Mother has been rushed to hospital in St. Malo, don't know why...yet.
Can walk, pain in her right abdomen, can't answer simple questions
(like 'what day is it'). That's kind of conflicting - a stroke would
make her unable to talk coherently, an illness (like appendicitis - I
think she's the only person I know who's got an appendix - as far as I
know she's never even been indexed...) would simply leave her in pain.

Odd. Worrying..she's 79.

I don't do the prayers thing, but I am worried. Mostly because if she
dropped dead overnight I'd have to take care of my bloody father, who
will definitely take his time shrugging off his mor....

Aha! Phone rings in mid-rabbit....it's a kidney stone...mother is in
surgery.

I see a trip to France in my very near future. Dad can't cook...and
mother won't be vertical for some time, I guess. Neither will Daddy -
he's going to do in a bottle of malt by the time the night's
out...wish I'd got one..

Acoustic is no good at times like this. Wish I had a stage, a Strat
and a Mesa Boogie..

Pete

Bill Chandler

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:02:20 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:58:21 GMT, persisten...@yahoo.com brewed
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Aw, shit, Pete, sorry to hear that. Mucho positive energy your way.
Glad it wasn't something worse--a kidney stone is bad enough!

And do they allow Strats with a M/B cranked to 11 in France? Just
wondering...

Hang in there, man--all the best!

Bill Chandler
--------
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the above e-mail address remains totally fictional.
the real one is bc9424 AT gmailspamTHIS! D0T com (if you remove spamTHIS!)
...please check out my music at http://www.soundclick.com/billchandler some time...

Bill Chandler
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Misifus

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:53:07 PM1/3/10
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Having had kidney stones, I sympathize with your mother. It's no fun.
I hope she recovers quickly.

-Raf

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Misifus-
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home: http://www.rafandsioux.com

Jefferson Holston

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:10:35 PM1/3/10
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Good thoughts and positive energy coming your way, Pete.

Jeff

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:17:28 PM1/3/10
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Thanks Bill,

Spoke to the hospital a few minutes ago. She's out of surgery. It's
weird - if it was Caroline or me neither of us would be worried -
we're middle aged and relatively fit. At Mother's age you start
worrying if she'll survive the anaesthetic. The people at St. Malo are
excellent though.

I am very proud of the National Health in the UK, but the French have
it down compared to just about anyone else in the world - they just
throw money at it, and they simply assume that when a doctor makes a
diagnosis he doesn't have to worry about the cost - just get on with
it.

I don't know how serious a kidney stone is. Mother has never knocked
herself about (not by my standards anyway) and she's got a spare
kidney anyway....

Tense night, I think, then a lot of travelling and cooking for the
olds. With a bit of luck they'll be showing the Cape Town test on the
telly on the ferry..:-)

Pete


don hindenach

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:21:55 PM1/3/10
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Pete,

Sounds like it's as good as it can be, then. Hope it turns out well for all.

You get over here, I sold the Mesa, but I have a nice Dr Z for you to torture!!!

--
-donh-
donh at audiosys dot com

Dwight

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:29:26 PM1/3/10
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Even if you don't do the prayer thing, I'll do it for you. I've only had
problem with one and that was the day Lady Di was killed and at that
time I wish I could have traded places with her. The morphine helped,
but didn't stop the pain entirely. I send my best and prayers to both
your parents and you as well.

Dwight

Ed Maier

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:54:52 PM1/3/10
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I know nothing about kidney stones except that they are very painful. I
hope the surgery goes okay with her.

Ed Maier

Les Cargill

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:57:29 PM1/3/10
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persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Apologies in advance for any shit you lot get from me tonight.
>
> Mother has been rushed to hospital in St. Malo, don't know why...yet.
> Can walk, pain in her right abdomen, can't answer simple questions
> (like 'what day is it'). That's kind of conflicting - a stroke would
> make her unable to talk coherently, an illness (like appendicitis - I
> think she's the only person I know who's got an appendix - as far as I
> know she's never even been indexed...) would simply leave her in pain.
>
> Odd. Worrying..she's 79.
>
> I don't do the prayers thing, but I am worried. Mostly because if she
> dropped dead overnight I'd have to take care of my bloody father, who
> will definitely take his time shrugging off his mor....
>
> Aha! Phone rings in mid-rabbit....it's a kidney stone...mother is in
> surgery.
>

I apologize for this in advance, but .... here it is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgvie7xhRwA

> I see a trip to France in my very near future. Dad can't cook...and
> mother won't be vertical for some time, I guess. Neither will Daddy -
> he's going to do in a bottle of malt by the time the night's
> out...wish I'd got one..
>
> Acoustic is no good at times like this. Wish I had a stage, a Strat
> and a Mesa Boogie..
>

You sure about that? Making Robert Johnson-oid sounds with an
acoustic... just doesn't carry to Strats well...

> Pete
>
>
>
>
>

--
Les Cargill

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:58:46 PM1/3/10
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WTF is a Dr Z? And when can I see him?

Pete

don hindenach

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:00:24 PM1/3/10
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http://www.drzamps.com/maz18.html

and as soon as you come here and start in on my beer and scotch!

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:03:27 PM1/3/10
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Well, she's out of surgery - I imagine that was less painful than
having to piss the thing out.

I remember the day Lady Di died well. We were camping, it was pissing
down with rain. We went to see 'Men in Black' in Derby. Good film,
miserable day. We struck camp and cut the holiday short. No-one was
having any fun.

The hospital tell me she's in recovery but they won't talk. Late at
night, language problems...

Pete

Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:16:50 PM1/3/10
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>
> I don't know how serious a kidney stone is. Mother has never knocked
> herself about (not by my standards anyway) and she's got a spare
> kidney anyway....
>
> Pete
>


Stones are a pain in the... er, uhm, tube (or right abdomen, apparently),
but as they say... this too shall pass. I fully understand the freak
out... and I hope *you* make it through. But, odds are in her favor.
You'll have her to deal with for some more time.

All kidding aside, I feel for you.

Ed

ps: down a shot on me.

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:31:51 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:00:24 -0600, "don hindenach"
<bounc...@driveway.splort> wrote:

Looks cool..as long as it's got a master and gain I can torture
it...:-)

Pete

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:35:33 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:16:50 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <ed...@spookeasy.net>
wrote:

I'll be fine...until I see my hepatologist later in January (who's
going to tell me I'm dying - WTF - I never thought I'd make it to 40
anyway).

No shots in this house anymore, unfortunately...

Pete

don hindenach

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:41:49 PM1/3/10
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yup! and I have a power soak built into the speaker cabinet, AND he has a
tone-bypass mod coming out this month that increases gain yet more!

don hindenach

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:43:15 PM1/3/10
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I never thought I'd make it past 42, and yet here I am ...

JD

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:47:04 PM1/3/10
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Amen on that Dr Z! I had a maz 18 that was made me
sound like I knew what I was doing. Incredible amp.

Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:48:34 PM1/3/10
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"don hindenach" <bounc...@driveway.splort> wrote in message
news:ZGh26eEmFvyP-pn2-Ze9DfJXdxR57@ddon...

I never thought I'd make it past 11pm... but that was 30 some years ago.
(grimace)

Ed

don hindenach

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:02:09 PM1/3/10
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yup. That's the one. I turned a corner as soon as I plugged into that beast.

Shy Picker

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:47:43 PM1/3/10
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Man, kidney stones are extremely painful. My idiot brother-in-law has
had them twice. He got to experience some groovy pain killers while
waiting to piss them out.

Hope your mom gets through recovery OK.

David

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:38:35 PM1/3/10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:41:49 -0600, "don hindenach"
<bounc...@driveway.splort> wrote:

Actually, Don, that makes no sense to me at all...I am a complete
luddite when it comes to modern amp/speaker technology - power soak?
tone-bypass? Wha?

I like controllable noise. How I make it is down to someone else's
brains...:-)

My only amp is a 50W Carvin Nomad - I turns it up, it makes a din!

Pete

Misifus

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:54:32 PM1/3/10
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persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> I don't know how serious a kidney stone is. Mother has never knocked
> herself about (not by my standards anyway) and she's got a spare
> kidney anyway....
>

I think at her age, anything is serious. However, the biggest part of
kidney stones is the excruciating pain. I know there are better
alternatives now. When I first had mine, there was little more than
morphine and pass it. If they can extract it surgically, even with the
concern about the anesthetic, it'll be easier on her than passing it.

Misifus

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:58:30 PM1/3/10
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Trust me, the groovy pain killers aren't worth it.

Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:20:15 AM1/4/10
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"Misifus" <rafse...@att.net> wrote in message
news:7qdarn...@mid.individual.net...

My experience is... when you are in pain, painkillers aren't worth a crap.
They only deaden the pain a little bit and make it bearable. It's only when
you take them when not in pain that they are any fun.

Ed

Mike Brown

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:43:32 AM1/4/10
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persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Apologies in advance for any shit you lot get from me tonight.
>
> Mother has been rushed to hospital in St. Malo, don't know why...yet.
> Can walk, pain in her right abdomen, can't answer simple questions
> (like 'what day is it'). That's kind of conflicting - a stroke would
> make her unable to talk coherently, an illness (like appendicitis - I
> think she's the only person I know who's got an appendix - as far as I
> know she's never even been indexed...) would simply leave her in pain.
>
> Odd. Worrying..she's 79.
>
> I don't do the prayers thing, but I am worried. Mostly because if she
> dropped dead overnight I'd have to take care of my bloody father, who
> will definitely take his time shrugging off his mor....
>
> Aha! Phone rings in mid-rabbit....it's a kidney stone...mother is in
> surgery.

They did mine with ultrasound both times.

Bloody painful I'll tell you.

The kidney stones, not the ultrasound.

>
> I see a trip to France in my very near future. Dad can't cook...and
> mother won't be vertical for some time, I guess. Neither will Daddy -
> he's going to do in a bottle of malt by the time the night's
> out...wish I'd got one..
>
> Acoustic is no good at times like this. Wish I had a stage, a Strat
> and a Mesa Boogie..
>
> Pete
>

Ah.

I'm not really an electric player, but I can remember a night when my
G&L and my 100w Marshal were helping me survive till dawn.

I had a recorder on and there is a short piece that I kept.

MJRB

don hindenach

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:58:31 AM1/4/10
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Pete,

A power soak is a speaker volume control - more amp drive at less volume.
oftimes handy for matching levels with other players whilst still beating the
everloving shit out of the amp.

The tone bypass in this case is a footswitch that turns the amp up to 11 - more
din!

Madgamer

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:52:51 PM1/4/10
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On 1/3/2010 5:58 PM, persisten...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Apologies in advance for any shit you lot get from me tonight.
>
> Mother has been rushed to hospital in St. Malo, don't know why...yet.
> Can walk, pain in her right abdomen, can't answer simple questions
> (like 'what day is it'). That's kind of conflicting - a stroke would
> make her unable to talk coherently, an illness (like appendicitis - I
> think she's the only person I know who's got an appendix - as far as I
> know she's never even been indexed...) would simply leave her in pain.
>
> Odd. Worrying..she's 79.
>
> I don't do the prayers thing, but I am worried. Mostly because if she
> dropped dead overnight I'd have to take care of my bloody father, who
> will definitely take his time shrugging off his mor....
>
> Aha! Phone rings in mid-rabbit....it's a kidney stone...mother is in
> surgery.
>
> I see a trip to France in my very near future. Dad can't cook...and
> mother won't be vertical for some time, I guess. Neither will Daddy -
> he's going to do in a bottle of malt by the time the night's
> out...wish I'd got one..
>
> Acoustic is no good at times like this. Wish I had a stage, a Strat
> and a Mesa Boogie..
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Pete,
Being 69 (this month) I have had 2 kidney stones and 2 bladder
stones. The second was so large my Doctor forbid me to drive from Iowa
to Arkansas for Christmas. I had TO STAY HOME DRINK LOTS OF FLUIDS AND
PRAY that it did not try to pass.
There is a chance your mom may pass another one and a discussion
with her Doctor might be in order. The tube that connects the Kidney to
the bladder passes over the hip bone and this is the narrowest point
and the place any large Kidney stone mill have trouble. So you might
want to discuss it with her Doctor if you get a chance and find out
what could or might happen in the future. Good luck and good vibes your
way.

Larry A Iowa USA

Misifus

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:56:12 PM1/4/10
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If you get enough morphine, the pain goes away, but so do you.

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