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Steve Daniels

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:50:14 PM12/31/09
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I've been helping a friend shop for a nice guitar. Today we
found out that what fits her best is an 0 size with a twelve fret
neck. These seem to be hard to find, and I was wondering if
anyone knew who built something this size. Our budget is around
three grand.


TIA

David Hajicek

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Dec 31, 2009, 8:08:48 PM12/31/09
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"Steve Daniels" <sdan...@gorge.net> wrote in message
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Check with Charlie Hoffman http://www.hoffmanguitars.com/index.html

He's been making a lot of 00 size lately and may be willing to make an 0
size.
That's not a common size these days.

Dave Hajicek


Misifus

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:36:16 PM12/31/09
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Here's one that you might find in your price range:

http://www.mguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=z&g=t&m=0-28VS

-Raf

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Steve Daniels

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Jan 1, 2010, 12:48:14 AM1/1/10
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:36:16 -0600, against all advice, something
compelled Misifus <rafse...@att.net>, to say:

> Steve Daniels wrote:
> >
> >
> > I've been helping a friend shop for a nice guitar. Today we
> > found out that what fits her best is an 0 size with a twelve fret
> > neck. These seem to be hard to find, and I was wondering if
> > anyone knew who built something this size. Our budget is around
> > three grand.
> >
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Here's one that you might find in your price range:
>
> http://www.mguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=z&g=t&m=0-28VS


Played one of those today. That's how we decided upon the size.

Thank you.


David Hajicek

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:30:06 AM1/1/10
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"Steve Daniels" <sdan...@gorge.net> wrote in message
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It seems like a perfect fit. $4700 does seem a little steep.

Dave Hajicek


Tony Done

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Jan 1, 2010, 1:46:44 AM1/1/10
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"David Hajicek" <haj...@skypoint.com> wrote in message
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Many dealers, eg Elderly instruments will give a 40% discount on Martins,
which they aren't allowed to advertise, if you phone them. That would put it
at less than $3k.

I had an original of these, a 1925 0-21. Fabulous sound, but I didn't like
the 1 7/8" neck width.

Tony D


Tony D

gregz

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Jan 1, 2010, 9:42:33 AM1/1/10
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Unless I'm mistaken, all Larrivee parlors are 0- 12 fret. You have a
lot to choose from including woods, trim level and even finishes,
readily available and without breaking the bank.

Z

Misifus

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Jan 1, 2010, 11:58:48 AM1/1/10
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That was my thinking, too, Tony. As they say in New York, "Nobody pays
retail!" In fact, not only is MSRP never the actual price, but the
existence of MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) suggests that in actual
negotiations, some vendors will discount even more.

Tony Done

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Jan 1, 2010, 3:32:01 PM1/1/10
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"Misifus" <rafse...@att.net> wrote in message
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As use say the very mention of MAP suggests that they will go better. Last
time I looked at the Elderly catalog, they put their phone number right
underneath every MAP - nod nod, wink wink. I wonder what would happen if you
ordered at the MAP? Would they still bill you for the bigger discount?

Tony D

Misifus

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Jan 1, 2010, 5:27:07 PM1/1/10
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I'm sure some businesses would, but I kind of think that Elderly would
give you the discount. That's my take on Stan Werbin.

Steve Daniels

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Jan 1, 2010, 11:13:31 PM1/1/10
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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 00:30:06 -0600, against all advice, something
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It is.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-028VS-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=501659

$3600

>
> Dave Hajicek
>

Steve Daniels

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Jan 1, 2010, 11:18:16 PM1/1/10
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:42:33 -0500, against all advice, something
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> nless I'm mistaken, all Larrivee parlors are 0- 12 fret.

And there is a dealer in Portland. Thank you!

Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:29:17 AM1/2/10
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"Steve Daniels" <sdan...@gorge.net> wrote in message

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If you are talking a Martin 0-size, the Larrivee Parlors are not quite the
same. A major difference being the 24" scale of the Larrivee, unless I am
mistaken, the Martins were 24.9". And, the lower bout sizes and body depths
are different. Not by a lot but different all the same. The orig. Larrivee
Parlors were called 0-01's by Larrivee, though.

Disclaimer, I don't have the actual Martin #'s in front of me.

Ed

Steve Daniels

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:42:02 AM1/2/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:29:17 -0500, against all advice, something
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That's ok. One of these days, she's going to have something in
her lap, and she's going to ask me to hold it while she gets out
her checkbook. So far it looks like it will be something in koa
and western red cedar. We're narrowing the search.

This is fun.

>
> Ed

Mike Brown

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:41:32 AM1/2/10
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>
> That's ok. One of these days, she's going to have something in
> her lap, and she's going to ask me to hold it while she gets out
> her checkbook. So far it looks like it will be something in koa
> and western red cedar. We're narrowing the search.
>
>
>
>
>
> This is fun.
>

Buying guitars always is.

Even when it's for someone else.

MJRB

Ed Edelenbos

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:05:46 AM1/2/10
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"Mike Brown" <rock...@chariot.net.au> wrote in message
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Ain't that the truth?

FWIW, I'd fully recommend trying some Larrivee Parlors. If you find the
right one, they can be really spectacular guitars, especially at the price.
There are, however no cedar toppped ones.

Ed

Steve Daniels

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:50:04 PM1/2/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:05:46 -0500, against all advice, something

compelled "Ed Edelenbos" <ed...@spookeasy.net>, to say:

> FWIW, I'd fully recommend trying some Larrivee Parlors. If you find the

> right one, they can be really spectacular guitars, especially at the price.


We'll do that.

> There are, however no cedar toppped ones.


We might need to get something built. Not That There's Anything
Wrong With That.

Peter Huggins

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:18:45 PM1/2/10
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I just put my 1947 Martin 0-17 up on ebay. However, it is 14 fret, not
12. Sorry about that! 24.9" scale. It's wonderful, but I have two, and
I can use the cash flow. Happy picking no matter what you choose, P.

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Cliff

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:48:53 PM1/2/10
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hank alrich

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:46:25 PM1/2/10
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Cliff <clif...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Because she wants a guitar to play?

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Steve Daniels

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:59:40 PM1/2/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:48:53 -0800 (PST), against all advice,
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Well, the auction is over, I have zero woodworking skills, and
she wants a brighter sound. Other than that, it's perfect.


Misifus

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Jan 2, 2010, 9:58:43 PM1/2/10
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Peter Huggins wrote:
> I just put my 1947 Martin 0-17 up on ebay. However, it is 14 fret, not
> 12. Sorry about that! 24.9" scale. It's wonderful, but I have two, and
> I can use the cash flow. Happy picking no matter what you choose, P.
>


Back in the 70s, my brother had a 1937 0-17 that he left with me for
while. During that time, I had a little party and one of the gals I
worked with brought a guy she'd met on the plane from Memphis (I was in
Nashville). Weird guy, all in green, suit, shirt, tie, belt, shoes and
socks. When she introduced him, I dropped my teeth, Larry Coryell. I
let him get a couple of burgers down before I seduced him (Ya know, I've
got a 1937 Martin in there?)

When it was time for him to be going onstage at the Exit/In, he was
still sitting in my livingroom, jamming with a gal from India on some ragas.

persisten...@yahoo.com

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:47:05 PM1/2/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:05:46 -0500, "Ed Edelenbos" <ed...@spookeasy.net>
wrote:

I'd second that. I have a koa/sitka Larrivee Parlour which is a
belter. Cost $700 - ish. Don't even think about the cheap ones though
- the sound breaks up if you more than stroke the things.

Best parlour I ever heard was made by Alan Marshall about 10 years ago
- very sturdy, but then it was Braz/sitka so you got everything from
it. A growly parlour? You bet!

Pete

rayboyce

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:11:24 AM1/3/10
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"Steve Daniels" <sdan...@gorge.net> wrote in message
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You might try a Washburn Parlor, which will give you a closer feel on the
neck than the Larrivee's.


rayboyce

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:30:49 AM1/3/10
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"Steve Daniels" <sdan...@gorge.net> wrote in message
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Steve,

You might look into Evergreen Mountain Instruments:
http://www.eoni.com/~emi/6strings.html

I have a friend who has owned one for many years and loves it. He has also
built several of his own instruments and swears by Jerry Nolte's knowledge
as a guiding light.

The Martin 0 size is 13-1/2 Inches. EMI has models 1/2 larger and a 1/2 "
smaller, and he's in your price range.

Steve Daniels

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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 22:30:49 -0800, against all advice, something
compelled "rayboyce" <nospamraymond...@verizon.net>,
to say:

> You might look into Evergreen Mountain Instruments:
> http://www.eoni.com/~emi/6strings.html


Yeah! And he's even pretty local! Same state, anyway.

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