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Ed Edelenbos

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:00:28 PM11/2/09
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This showed up on the Unofficial Martin Forum...

http://theunofficialmartinguitarforum.yuku.com/topic/91231/t/FS-000-17S-Prototype-Paulownia-Dred-Proto-Minty-1990-D-18-pl.html

Damned tempting. I probably know more about Royal Paulownia than a normal
guy should.

Ed

Tony Done

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Nov 3, 2009, 2:10:55 PM11/3/09
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"Ed Edelenbos" <ed...@spookeasy.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Ed. <g> The 17s looks more interesting though, they caught my
attention when they first came out.

Tony D

Ron

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:08:00 PM11/7/09
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Planning on making a koto? <g>

Ron

Ed Edelenbos

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:49:39 PM11/7/09
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"Ron" <ry...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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About 8 or so years ago, a 24" dia. RP was blown down in my back yard. I
got some nice pieces of wood out of it. A koto crossed my mind... shaping
all those little bridges would be a real task. So did some wedding boxes.
It is some damned pretty wood, and danged resonant also.

Ed

Ron

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:07:05 AM11/8/09
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Ed Edelenbos wrote:
> "Ron" <ry...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
> news:ca298335-75ff-4440...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com..>

> About 8 or so years ago, a 24" dia. RP was blown down in my back yard. I
> got some nice pieces of wood out of it. A koto crossed my mind... shaping
> all those little bridges would be a real task.


LOL. Okay, now I would've thought that hollowing out a six foot length
of tree would be a lot harder than making the bridges. :-)

I had recently watched a PBS show about how Sting (formerly from the
rock group, the Police) has gotten an interest into real old lutes, so
now I don't feel nearly so bad about being interested in lyres.
Hollowing out the soundbox for just a relatively small lyre would
easily take up to a month and that's using a modern router; I'm amazed
cuz I don't see how the Japanese have traditionally hollowed out trees
like that to make kotos with nothing but hand tools.

Ron

JimLowther

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:22:05 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 8, 2:07�am, Ron <r...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote:
> Ed Edelenbos wrote:
> > "Ron" <r...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message

I'm not sure, but I think part of it is to split out one year's growth
along the rings. Paulonia is a ring porous wood, such that a sharp
blow at the right spot gets the wood to separate along the rings.
This is much the same as popping out basket staves from Ash wwith a
good wooden maul.

Check back with me after June and I may have better info on this.

Best wishes,

Dr. Jim Lowther

Jack Campin - bogus address

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:21:50 PM11/11/09
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> Hollowing out the soundbox for just a relatively small lyre would
> easily take up to a month and that's using a modern router; I'm
> amazed cuz I don't see how the Japanese have traditionally hollowed
> out trees like that to make kotos with nothing but hand tools.

Fire? Fijian slit gongs were mostly hollowed out by burning. They
can be a lot bigger than a koto.

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Ed Edelenbos

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:30:28 PM11/11/09
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"Jack Campin - bogus address" <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Hollowing out the soundbox for just a relatively small lyre would
>> easily take up to a month and that's using a modern router; I'm
>> amazed cuz I don't see how the Japanese have traditionally hollowed
>> out trees like that to make kotos with nothing but hand tools.
>
> Fire? Fijian slit gongs were mostly hollowed out by burning. They
> can be a lot bigger than a koto.
>

For koto's, splitting along the ring (to get the basic profile) is the
traditional method (as previously stated).

Ed

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