The Process
Paul K. Reynolds
OK. It was recently mentioned to me that there is an organization called
"The Process" which has members such as Genesis P-Orridge, Ogre &
According to Bill Leeb, a guy named Bill Morrison who does the FLA & Puppy
videos.
Could somebody here who knows of The Process please enlighten me about it
and/or redirect me to a gopher or ftp site. I was under the impression
that there was a directory at ftp.netcom.com, but I couldn't find it.
Take care...
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Eric Pierce
>Could somebody here who knows of The Process please enlighten me about it
>and/or redirect me to a gopher or ftp site. I was under the impression
>that there was a directory at ftp.netcom.com, but I couldn't find it.
ftp.netcom.com, in the pub/puppy directory, is a file explaining all about
the concept behind Thee Process. It's about 100k or so, and there are also
some sub-directories with additional member-submitted text files and
graphics. Very interesting stuff!
Beast of Eden
A few years ago, Genesis P-Orridge split with Thee Temple Ov Psychick
Youth (TOPY), a magick group that he co-founded after TG's breakup.
Psychic TV was originally supposed to be the propaganda arm of TOPY.
G.P-O has started a new group called Thee Outer Process International
(TOPI, get it?), which takes its name from The Process, a somewhat
Satanic-oriented breakaway from The Church of Scientology. The Process
allegedly had links with Charles Manson, though there's never been any
hard evidence for this. G.P-O is using the name and the symbols of the
original Process to capitalize on its notoriety. Somewhere along the
line, he got Skinny Puppy involved.
Beast of Eden
Patrick J. Prescott
>From: boe...@u.washington.edu (Beast of Eden)
>Subject: Re: The Process
>Date: 21 Nov 1994 08:50:55 GMT
Maybe I am to idealistic, but I have read all the info about the Process and
it just sounds like a cult to me and I have a hard time accepting that SP
would be so naive as to but into that bullshit. I have never been a fan of
Genesis and perhaps this influences my view or maybe I just haven't read
enough info.
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Susan Roston
Patrick J. Prescott <aai...@dsmnet.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe I am to idealistic, but I have read all the info about the Process and
>it just sounds like a cult to me and I have a hard time accepting that SP
>would be so naive as to but into that bullshit. I have never been a fan of
>Genesis and perhaps this influences my view or maybe I just haven't read
>enough info.
simple. you see, puppy are just giving the place a sight to work out of. The
Process is not anyone dominant philosophy idea. that is one of their main
doctrines, that everyone should believe what they need to and interact like
that. there are people from many different mindframs, religions, etc., on the
process. no one dominates it
--mike roston--the once and future ending--
althea morin
: In article <aaimage.5...@dsmnet.com>,
True, but it IS more than that. Genesis & Ogre are currently great
friends, and SP are pretty intimately involved with the whole thing. The
earlier post, i think, made too much of some ofthe shock value tactics,
and ignored a lot of the (IMO) valid philosophy behind the network.
Patrick J. Prescott
>From: lil...@dorsai.org (althea morin)
>Subject: Re: The Process
>Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 08:03:24 GMT
The philosophy behind the Process sounds reasonable and valid true enough.
The problem I have witht he Process is the direct tie with Magick and why
does sexual perversion push an individuals mental awareness? Genesis is a
little out there for me personally. I have always suscribed to SP's way of
viewing things not a third party cult's. If the Process is so losely
connected then why bother? What does the Process give anyone?
I know I am being judgemental here. I need more information on this
subject, does anyone have firsthand knowledge of the Process? If so, feel
free to E-mail me and correct me on my misconceptions.
BTW, I have read all the information at the FTP site...
Susan Roston
Patrick J. Prescott <aai...@dsmnet.com> wrote:
>The problem I have witht he Process is the direct tie with Magick and why
>does sexual perversion push an individuals mental awareness? Genesis is a
far as I can tell, nor does the TOPY. the Greybook(available somewhere or
other on ftp.lysator.siu.edu or something like that) states the belief that
the greatest spiritual awareness comes during orgasm. well, this is good for
them, and I will let it rmain as such. I just don't feel like sending in a
sample of my genetic material to the organization every month.
>little out there for me personally. I have always suscribed to SP's way of
>viewing things not a third party cult's. If the Process is so losely
>connected then why bother? What does the Process give anyone?
how aabout just a place. think of it as a social organization in a sense. you
get together with acquaintances and discuss doctriens of this and that and
theories of this and that. all under the moniker The Process. simple enough to
me
--michael roston--tarnished golden boy--
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Paul W. Campbell
: The problem I have witht he Process is the direct tie with Magick and why
: does sexual perversion push an individuals mental awareness? Genesis is a
: little out there for me personally. I have always suscribed to SP's way of
the only two cents i'll personally throw in is that it is a bit,
uhhm perhaps innapropriate to call this "perversion". i am not sure what
YOU consider perversion. tantrics ? homosexuality ? polyamory ? i've
tried many things in my developement as a person, and in no way consider
myself "perverted". i think that language may be too strong. certainly go
your path, but removing the stigma that some sexual expression is
necessarily perverse is part of the magick. and that self discovery can
be very empowering...speaking from experience. while i never sought to
join topy in all my proximity to it for a number of years, the magick is
the point. it is an approach to self actualization, and sexual liberation
is a principal key. my views are in no way any particualr endorsement or
defense for the process, with whom i have no official connection,
however, i suspect i travel a similar path. and this magick, this self
re-creation has been through sexual, philosophical, emotional, and
intellectual growth. i never truly understood the religion i was raised
in until i left it and looked at it from a different view. many other
aspects of my life have been similar, including my sexual self. the
process has a number of important ideas from people trying to achieve
those personal goals. i've never gotten the impression it was a "cult",
but i have always gotten the impression it was not for everybody. but
then, what is? later.
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Paul K. Reynolds
In a previous article, cleo...@cyberden.com (cleopatra) says:
>There is also a mirror of The Process site at the CYBERDEN...
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>The CyberDen - Worldwide Alternative Music & Entertainment Network
>415-472-5527 - Labels, Zines, Multimedia, Bands, Artists, Cultures
>cyberden.com - Telnet and anonymous FTP -> Info: in...@cyberden.com
I've tried to ftp to the cyberden of late, but I've been getting
"Connection Refused" ... Anyone else have this problem?
Take care...
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magn...@netcom.com
: I've tried to ftp to the cyberden of late, but I've been getting
: "Connection Refused" ... Anyone else have this problem?
telnet in via line 3000, or cyberden.com 3000, I don't know if FTP
connections are supported any longer- e-mail b...@cyberden.com for
specific info, he's the sysop.
Good Luck
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