Why do people say Chiastic slide is the best?(was:thanks people)
Your Daddy
and it's all cool music. Why do you say
Chiastic slide is the best?
I can't see it...
LP5 is pretty cool, as well as all others...
Yes, Autechre music is different from electro,
simply different - not pro/regressive from it.
I like it both.
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It's practically impossible by e-mail, I think.
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>I've listened to most of albums by Autechre,
>and it's all cool music. Why do you say
>Chiastic slide is the best?
>I can't see it...
>LP5 is pretty cool, as well as all others...
>Yes, Autechre music is different from electro,
>simply different - not pro/regressive from it.
>I like it both.
>
i can only speak for myself, but i find Chiastic Slide very nice in that it
is the most highly textured autechre release.. the amount of complexity and
variation present in the programmed staccato of static, clicks, whirs, and
beeps that overlays the musical composition is wonderful to experience.
as for Chiastic Slide being the best autechre release, i'm not sure about
that. from Incunabula to EP7, each album has unique qualities that make it
wonderful... to single out a certain album as being "the best" is wrong when
ALL of the albums are so good they should be required listening.
-unit
Ryan N Miller
Your Daddy <co...@yourdaddy.com> wrote in message
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| I've listened to most of albums by Autechre,
| and it's all cool music. Why do you say
| Chiastic slide is the best?
| I can't see it...
| LP5 is pretty cool, as well as all others...
| Yes, Autechre music is different from electro,
| simply different - not pro/regressive from it.
| I like it both.
Most people say that's a good album to start with...especially coming from
an 'industrial' background. So far EP7 to me, is one of the best things
I've heard in a very long time. But I still listen to all the others in
their turn.
Ryan
Christopher H. Chatham
owned was Incunabula, Chiastic Slide seemed like the obvious step.
Unfortunately, after a few listens, I thought it was too obvious. The crunchy
idm sounds were just sort of empty. I would much prefer to hear an
elaboration of the melodic textures on Incunabula... I assume this is what
the newer stuff is like. I guess I'll pick up either lp5 or ep7.
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Ryan N Miller
Christopher H. Chatham <cha...@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
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| I thought the same thing as the original poster. Since the only other Ae
I
| owned was Incunabula, Chiastic Slide seemed like the obvious step.
| Unfortunately, after a few listens, I thought it was too obvious. The
crunchy
| idm sounds were just sort of empty. I would much prefer to hear an
| elaboration of the melodic textures on Incunabula... I assume this is
what
| the newer stuff is like. I guess I'll pick up either lp5 or ep7.
Well don't expect LP5 or EP7 to sound anything like Incunabula, which is
their first and most derivative album (relatively speaking). In fact...my
guess is that you wouldn't like either of them. I'd say go for Amber and
Tri Reptetae++ first...
LP5 is very...umm...strange at first listen. At least it was for me...I had
to force myself to listen to it a bit more before I found things to like and
I found a lot to like. EP7 however, grabbed me from first listen and it
hasn't left my CD player since. Go figure. But make no mistake if you
thought Chiastic Slide was empty you'd thing these two (at least LP5) were
black holes.
Ryan
Doktor Industrial
Your Daddy wrote:
> I've listened to most of albums by Autechre,
> and it's all cool music. Why do you say
> Chiastic slide is the best?
> I can't see it...
it seems it's time for the doktor to explain himself here:
there's no argument from me that autechre's entire body of work is
staggering. all of the albums i've heard thus far are spectacular in some
size, shape, fashion or form. personally though, i feel _chiastic slide_
is autechre's best work because it achieves a delicate balance between
their earlier, warmer, and more "orthodox" compositions (like _incunabula_)
and later, more abstract outputs (such as lp5). to put it simply,
_chiastic slide_ is an album that i've found mathematically precise and
exacting in both form and structure, constructed from media that sounds
utterly outside of human (indeed, organic) experience. simultaneously,
each and every piece achieves a living, dynamic, HUMAN warmth that does not
fail to consistently move me. analogous perhaps to a staggeringly complex
equation that, when solved for x, equals a child's laugh. or finding the
nature of god in pi, if you will.
i apologize for waxing a bit melodramatic, as well as not giving one iota
of a musical description for the peanut gallery. this just means that you
should pick up the album and hear it for yourself.
dr. industrial.
Your Daddy
> their first and most derivative album (relatively speaking). In fact...my
> guess is that you wouldn't like either of them. I'd say go for Amber and
> Tri Reptetae++ first...
>
> LP5 is very...umm...strange at first listen. At least it was for me...I had
> to force myself to listen to it a bit more before I found things to like and
> I found a lot to like. EP7 however, grabbed me from first listen and it
> hasn't left my CD player since. Go figure. But make no mistake if you
> thought Chiastic Slide was empty you'd thing these two (at least LP5) were
> black holes.
For me, Chiastic Slide is stranger than others I've listened to,
as it is closer to monotonous trance music. Now, I must admit,
that I've liked others even more, cause they are not so monotonous.
LP5 has very beautyful jazz-drum like things, which I like
very much. I've got five albums:
incunabula, amber, chiastic slide, tri repetae++, LP5,
and Chiastic slide still is most monotonous for me - isn't it?
I like Cage, but I do not like trance somehow. That is why
this album is difficult for me.
Dirty Boy
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Ryan N Miller
| > Well don't expect LP5 or EP7 to sound anything like Incunabula, which is
| > their first and most derivative album (relatively speaking). In
fact...my
| > guess is that you wouldn't like either of them. I'd say go for Amber
and
| > Tri Reptetae++ first...
| >
| > LP5 is very...umm...strange at first listen. At least it was for me...I
had
| > to force myself to listen to it a bit more before I found things to like
and
| > I found a lot to like. EP7 however, grabbed me from first listen and it
| > hasn't left my CD player since. Go figure. But make no mistake if you
| > thought Chiastic Slide was empty you'd thing these two (at least LP5)
were
| > black holes.
|
| For me, Chiastic Slide is stranger than others I've listened to,
| as it is closer to monotonous trance music. Now, I must admit,
| that I've liked others even more, cause they are not so monotonous.
| LP5 has very beautyful jazz-drum like things, which I like
| very much. I've got five albums:
| incunabula, amber, chiastic slide, tri repetae++, LP5,
| and Chiastic slide still is most monotonous for me - isn't it?
| I like Cage, but I do not like trance somehow. That is why
| this album is difficult for me.
I find nothing that has anything to do with trance on any autrechre
recording I've heard...maybe that's just me...
Anyway to explain my comment earlier about LP5, to me the prevailing emotion
that was communicated to me was one of isolation and abandonment. It was a
very cold album and that was hard to stomach at first (all this was a first
impression) but as I listened to it more it began to sound better, I was
hearing more of it...I still prefer Tri Rep or Chiastic Slide to it. And
the EPs around CS, Envane and Cichilisuite have probably been in my CD
player (or record player in the case of Envane) more than any of them. I
don't know...I just don't see why you think it's monotonous...I guess to
each his own...
Ryan
Milton Durr
perfectly fuse their sense of melody with their penchant for austere
mechano-beats. This album shows a degree of integration and level of
intelligence that was only hinted at on Tri Repeatae (which, is their second
best release) because it manages to sound very cold and mechanical yet
melodic and warm at the same time. And the rhythms are just superb.
Unfortunately, their last album just meandered, and unforgivably so (IMO).
It truly sounded like they came up with a couple of presets and let the
machines play themselves, whereas Chiastic Slide sounds like there is a very
human intelligence behind the machine-generated sounds.
>From: "Your Daddy" <co...@yourdaddy.com>
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>Subject: Why do people say Chiastic slide is the best?(was:thanks people)
>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:35:35 GMT
>
>I've listened to most of albums by Autechre,
>and it's all cool music. Why do you say
>Chiastic slide is the best?
>I can't see it...
>LP5 is pretty cool, as well as all others...
>Yes, Autechre music is different from electro,
>simply different - not pro/regressive from it.
>I like it both.
>
> > Hmm... Chances are you hit my spamblock, because I haven't received
> > anything. If the message *did* bounce, please don't try to send it to
> > the correct address. Downloading something from my mail server is a
> > pain. I appreciate the thought, but it's more of a hindrance than a
> > help. :)
>
>It was a joke, do you think I would send you 6MB;))
>It's practically impossible by e-mail, I think.
>
>Your Daddy
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Nils Winkler
<dr_ind...@kanm.tamu.edu> wrote:
>
>
>Your Daddy wrote:
>
>> I've listened to most of albums by Autechre,
>> and it's all cool music. Why do you say
>> Chiastic slide is the best?
>> I can't see it...
>
>it seems it's time for the doktor to explain himself here:
>
>there's no argument from me that autechre's entire body of work is
>staggering. all of the albums i've heard thus far are spectacular in some
>size, shape, fashion or form. personally though, i feel _chiastic slide_
>is autechre's best work because it achieves a delicate balance between
>their earlier, warmer, and more "orthodox" compositions (like _incunabula_)
>and later, more abstract outputs (such as lp5). to put it simply,
>_chiastic slide_ is an album that i've found mathematically precise and
>exacting in both form and structure, constructed from media that sounds
>utterly outside of human (indeed, organic) experience. simultaneously,
>each and every piece achieves a living, dynamic, HUMAN warmth that does not
>fail to consistently move me. analogous perhaps to a staggeringly complex
>equation that, when solved for x, equals a child's laugh. or finding the
>nature of god in pi, if you will.
>
>i apologize for waxing a bit melodramatic, as well as not giving one iota
>of a musical description for the peanut gallery. this just means that you
>should pick up the album and hear it for yourself.
Amen!!!!
Recommendation seconded.
Nils
Dsgnr99
>forced "Ryan N Miller" <mil...@rpi.edu> to write:
>
>>Well don't expect LP5 or EP7 to sound anything like Incunabula, which is
>>their first and most derivative album (relatively speaking).
>
>the most derivative. While being very good, it reminded me a great
>deal of previous Aphex Twin releases. Luckily for Autechre, they've
>managed to shake off the AFX comparisons on later albums (for the most
>part).
Are you sure? I'm almost positive that "Incunabula" was the first full length,
but was preceded by the "Anti EP" release. I realize that I got the domestic
releases, but I got them upon their release and "Incunabula" definitely came
out first in the States. Perhaps it's mere nostalgia but I've always been quite
fond of "Incunabula," even though it admittedly pales in originality and talent
when held up against "Chiastic Slide" or "lp5."
Richard E. Worrier
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:53:43 +0200, with raygun in hand the aliens
> forced "Ryan N Miller" <mil...@rpi.edu> to write:
>
> >Well don't expect LP5 or EP7 to sound anything like Incunabula, which is
> >their first and most derivative album (relatively speaking).
>
> Actually "Amber" came out before "Incunabula". ;) But I agree, it's
> the most derivative. While being very good, it reminded me a great
> deal of previous Aphex Twin releases. Luckily for Autechre, they've
> managed to shake off the AFX comparisons on later albums (for the most
> part).
You sure about that? According to Warp's site, Incunabula is WARP17,
while Amber is WARP25. Generally the higher catalogue numbers means it
was released AFTER :)
Either way, I actually think Incunabula is a better and less derivative
album than Amber, but I don't feel like backing up this statement at
all, so whatever.
I can't believe I still don't fucking have Chiastic Slide. Why didn't
the damn Nothing bastards release it years ago like they were supposed
to?? I'm sure I'll cave in and pay silly import prices rather soon..
Bah.
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brent jackson
Dsgnr99 <dsg...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>Actually "Amber" came out before "Incunabula". ;) But I agree, it's
>>the most derivative. While being very good, it reminded me a great
>>deal of previous Aphex Twin releases. Luckily for Autechre, they've
>>managed to shake off the AFX comparisons on later albums (for the most
>>part).
>
>but was preceded by the "Anti EP" release. I realize that I got the domestic
>releases, but I got them upon their release and "Incunabula" definitely came
>out first in the States. Perhaps it's mere nostalgia but I've always been
>quite
>fond of "Incunabula," even though it admittedly pales in originality and
>talent
>when held up against "Chiastic Slide" or "lp5."
actually, you're both wrong.
uk release dates:
_incunabula_ 93.11.29
_anti_ 94.10.15
_amber_ 94.11.07
(from an autechre discography i have).
-brent
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Mr. Tangent
forced "Ryan N Miller" <mil...@rpi.edu> to write:
>Well don't expect LP5 or EP7 to sound anything like Incunabula, which is
>their first and most derivative album (relatively speaking).
Actually "Amber" came out before "Incunabula". ;) But I agree, it's
the most derivative. While being very good, it reminded me a great
deal of previous Aphex Twin releases. Luckily for Autechre, they've
managed to shake off the AFX comparisons on later albums (for the most
part).
np: Plaid - Rest Proof Clockwork
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Mr. Tangent
forced "Richard E. Worrier" <op...@total.net> to write:
>> Actually "Amber" came out before "Incunabula". ;) But I agree, it's
>> the most derivative. While being very good, it reminded me a great
>> deal of previous Aphex Twin releases. Luckily for Autechre, they've
>> managed to shake off the AFX comparisons on later albums (for the most
>> part).
>
>You sure about that? According to Warp's site, Incunabula is WARP17,
>while Amber is WARP25. Generally the higher catalogue numbers means it
>was released AFTER :)
>Either way, I actually think Incunabula is a better and less derivative
>album than Amber, but I don't feel like backing up this statement at
>all, so whatever.
>I can't believe I still don't fucking have Chiastic Slide. Why didn't
>the damn Nothing bastards release it years ago like they were supposed
>to?? I'm sure I'll cave in and pay silly import prices rather soon..
I stand corrected. I guess all the methamphetamine, nitrous, hashish,
opium and morphine is finally getting to me. Thanks for the
clarification (and to the two others, Brent and Dsgnr99).
About a Nothing Records domestic issue of "Chiastic Slide" - I don't
think it was in their licensing contract to release it. I wish they
would, but I think they started licensing Autechre with "LP5" onward.
Next Tuesday the new Autechre, "EP7", comes out on Nothing Records in
the U.S. Both "EP7" and "Chiastic Slide" are *excellent* and you
really owe it to yourself to buy both, Rich.