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for me to poop on.
Erik.
np: gridlock-5.25
"Almost everyone wants to be your friend. We'd like to make a movie of your
life now.. your dead"
Voltair
: << Front Line Assembly new Interview
: http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/barcodexl >>
: for me to poop on.
yeah, bill leeb isnt industrial...
RIGHT GUYS?
e n -
wrote:
i'll say it again. bill leeb is the puffy of post industrial (or
should i say p-diddy?) except less wealthy.
np: spaankorzo - drama
Meshlife
should i say p-diddy?) except less wealthy.<<<<<<<
bill is cool, he seemed less egotistical in this interview and seemed to
recognize that his underground status is pretty much shot but that also it
can't be avoided and life goes on. i don't mind his pop stuff.
er'ehwon
e n -
actually i was talking the way he uses samples. though of course not
as egregious as puffy. just a joke i like to make though.
np: radiohead - the bends
Meshlife
oh yes i agree with you. bill is not the best example of sampling as an
artform.
er'ehwon
Voltair
: i'll say it again. bill leeb is the puffy of post industrial (or
: should i say p-diddy?) except less wealthy.
then who is phil easter....?
Dayv!
A rather good artist, IMO. Why don't you ride David Thrussel's ass for
sampling, if you want to talk shit about talented musicians? Your
desperate need to see Bill Leeb as a viable musical touchstone in 2001
will in the end cause you great cognitive dissonance and unresolved
conflict.
--
-Dayv!
"Sinful creeps mangle my packets."
e n -
<laughingLOOK-M...@yourpain.com> wrote:
sampling can definitely be an artform. i'd just argue that for certain
artists, well...
but voltair likes to be contentious and contrary i think
even if he does seem to be getting on more peopl'es nerves recently.
maybe jr riled him up a bit too much?
btw - what's the new sig from? or mean?
sorry but i accidentally erased it so...
Dayv!
>
> btw - what's the new sig from? or mean?
I work at UUnet, a big-ass corporate ISP, and that quote is an excerpt
from a customer complaint sent to our support people. The whole complaint
is as follows:
"You no give good access to my domain. I think problem is in you server.
I keep building page but never gets public on net. Send Recieve no work
either. My router is smoking from you scans. Stop penetraiting my
computer! It no good to do that. Sinful creeps mangle my packets and
send down sewage pipe call ISDN lines."
[insert Zero Wing joke here]
Todd Clayton
>
> "You no give good access to my domain. I think problem is in you server.
> I keep building page but never gets public on net. Send Recieve no work
> either. My router is smoking from you scans. Stop penetraiting my
> computer! It no good to do that. Sinful creeps mangle my packets and
> send down sewage pipe call ISDN lines."
I'd say only in America, but all of the MCSE's and CNE's I've ever
worked with have been completely illiterate too...
Though I think this guy was into the Crystal Meth as well.
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e n -
<laughingLOOK-M...@yourpain.com> wrote:
>e n - <jy...@pantheon.yale.edu> was all like:
>>
>> btw - what's the new sig from? or mean?
>
> I work at UUnet, a big-ass corporate ISP, and that quote is an excerpt
>from a customer complaint sent to our support people. The whole complaint
>is as follows:
>
>"You no give good access to my domain. I think problem is in you server.
>I keep building page but never gets public on net. Send Recieve no work
>either. My router is smoking from you scans. Stop penetraiting my
>computer! It no good to do that. Sinful creeps mangle my packets and
>send down sewage pipe call ISDN lines."
that's kind of frightening. but yesterday someone was telling me about
their day adn what had happened to their computer and elicited nearly
the same reaction from me. so much for the semi-literate.
i wonder how many people in this world are computer literate but only
semi or illiterate. that's a scary thought.
np: neurosis - pain of mind
Flavius
mesh...@aol.combat-sex says...
Why is his status shot? Just because of Delerium? Bah, who cares? He's
gotta make money somehow. FLA is still the best hard electro band
*overall*.
Flavius
Flavius
SPAM...@yourpain.com says...
> desperate need to see Bill Leeb as a viable musical touchstone in 2001
It will happen! Do you hear me? It will happen!! Leeb will rule in 2001!
It better happen or pretty soon the only music I like will be made by
Danish Satanists and people trying really hard to sound French in some
way!
Flavius
Meshlife
gotta make money somehow. FLA is still the best hard electro band
*overall*.<<<<<<
yes, i agree; i wasn't saying that is was bad at all. but it's a fact, he's
not underground and the music is not as innovative as it once was. once again,
i'm not complaining, i'm just pointing out the fact, and besides, i only
paraphrased him from the interview, he said something about losing credibility.
his words, not mine.
er'ehwon
The Black Oil
Voltair <jrd...@unix.amherst.edu> wrote in message
news:3afbaa23$1...@amhnt2.amherst.edu...
> yeah, bill leeb isnt industrial...
>
> RIGHT GUYS?
Have I mentioned that Bill Leeb has mad style?
--
Greg
np: Bomb 20 "Field Manual"
"Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack
aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack.
Ahhhh forget the whole thing!"
-Bender "Futurama"
Nicolas Chevreux
wrote:
>people trying really hard to sound French in some
>way!
And now that's pretty scary, mon bon monsieur. Care to clarify?
Nicolas
np: Llips: Dos Patres
-
Nicolas Chevreux
ICQ: 52843011
Flavius
mesh...@aol.combat-sex says...
Ok... I don't think it's that he's not innovative anymore, I think it's
that many have started catching up to him. :-)
Flavius
Flavius
thebla...@yahoo.com says...
>
> Voltair <jrd...@unix.amherst.edu> wrote in message
> news:3afbaa23$1...@amhnt2.amherst.edu...
> > yeah, bill leeb isnt industrial...
> >
> > RIGHT GUYS?
>
> Have I mentioned that Bill Leeb has mad style?
Oh yes.. the new bright yellow hair and full white clothes. Very modern.
Of course he can now be mistaken for a member of the Backstreet Boys,
especially because of the way he tilts his head and grips his elbow in
thr picture. Yahahahaha!
Flavius
Flavius
nic...@adnoiseam.net says...
> On Sat, 12 May 2001 19:48:59 GMT, Flavius <fla...@NOSPAM.bestweb.net>
> wrote:
>
> >people trying really hard to sound French in some
> >way!
>
> And now that's pretty scary, mon bon monsieur. Care to clarify?
Pardonne moi! What I meant to say is that thee other bands I like,
besides the two Danish Satanists, are Front 242 (who are Belgian and have
French sounding names and accents as a result), and Lassigue Bendthaus.
Now I know Bendthaus sounds German, but Lassigue sounds French to me. All
in all I was "mal a la tete" to make than that comment! :-)
Flavius
eschaton
Claus Larsen isn't really a Satanist...though he uses the imagery, I am
pretty sure he is an Athiest.
Voltair
: A rather good artist, IMO. Why don't you ride David Thrussel's ass for
: sampling, if you want to talk shit about talented musicians? Your
: desperate need to see Bill Leeb as a viable musical touchstone in 2001
: will in the end cause you great cognitive dissonance and unresolved
: conflict.
Dude, apparently your bad childhood has skewered your psyche to the point where
your anti-social neurosis has created a need for you to desparately impose
your contercultural tastes on what should otherwise be a rather impartial
assesment that a large portion of the work leeb has done is pretty invovled
stuff. Im not saying that now, in 2001, hes making amazing music, but there
is this odd thing called the past we can reflect on. but I digress...my point
was mentioning the hipocracy of pepole who perpetually bash the Leeb Consortium
for sampling, and then give it a new name and proclaim it as genius
when Phil Easter does it to a MUCH larger extent. Sorry boys and girls,
but if you are gonna claim that slowing down or speeding up a sample and/or
distorting it moderately is the defining criteria that separates genius
from plagarsism, youve got a shaky argument at best. Some of you
reading comprehension imparied idiots are probably going to infer from this
that I dont like IHD. However, this would be an incorrect asumption,
as I like both IHD and Leeb stuffs, Its just that I simply recognize the fact
that there is more similarities between them than some people on this ng might
like to admit.
Voltair
: but voltair likes to be contentious and contrary i think
: even if he does seem to be getting on more peopl'es nerves recently.
this is a new development?
people always get annoyed when I blow the lid off of their half baked
attempts to intellectualize thier own personal preferences...
: maybe jr riled him up a bit too much?
nah, that pansy ass couldnt flame if he was covered in napalm at a mexican
barbeque
Voltair
: Voltair <jrd...@unix.amherst.edu> wrote in message
: news:3afbaa23$1...@amhnt2.amherst.edu...
:> yeah, bill leeb isnt industrial...
:>
:> RIGHT GUYS?
: Have I mentioned that Bill Leeb has mad style?
I heard he was a nigger. Any truth to this?
Voltair
: sampling, if you want to talk shit about talented musicians? Your
: desperate need to see Bill Leeb as a viable musical touchstone in 2001
: will in the end cause you great cognitive dissonance and unresolved
: conflict.
Let me reiterate, dislike Leeb all you want, no one is trying to make you
like him if thats your own personal preference, but please dont waste your
breath trying to claim that a monkey could make an album like faces , forms,
and illusions, tactical neural impant, or whatnot. Truth is , it would be alot
easier for a monkey to make the kind of music your warped egos drool over.
The first monkey to release an album will be on Ant-Zen, not metropolis.
Dayv!
Zoviet Squid
<snip>
> Im not saying that now, in 2001, hes making amazing music, but there
>is this odd thing called the past we can reflect on. but I digress...my point
>was mentioning the hipocracy of pepole who perpetually bash the Leeb
>Consortium
>for sampling, and then give it a new name and proclaim it as genius
>when Phil Easter does it to a MUCH larger extent. Sorry boys and girls,
>but if you are gonna claim that slowing down or speeding up a sample and/or
>distorting it moderately is the defining criteria that separates genius
>from plagarsism, youve got a shaky argument at best. Some of you
>reading comprehension imparied idiots are probably going to infer from this
>that I dont like IHD. However, this would be an incorrect asumption,
>as I like both IHD and Leeb stuffs, Its just that I simply recognize the fact
>that there is more similarities between them than some people on this ng
>might
>like to admit.
What I would give to see this argued on the tumorlist...if only for comedic
value alone.
--zs
np: add n to x--add insult to injury
"shit...everything shits until it dies."--Bukowski
Arbitrator
Voltair <jrd...@unix.amherst.edu> wrote...
>
> The first monkey to release an album will be on Ant-Zen, not
> metropolis.
Considering that one [simplified] way of looking at it is that
Ant-Zen fare is a cousin of the electro Metropolis offers, but with
distortion and extreme frequencies (meaning they're basically the same
music, structurally), I'd argue that either label could sign and release a
monkey's music first.
However, with Metro already releasing the music of one Orangutan
Erickson, I think it has better connections to hit up the monkey market in
the future.
Chris O'Brien [Veni Vidi Exii]
<Arbit...@home.computer> swore unto me:
> Considering that one [simplified] way of looking at it is that
>Ant-Zen fare is a cousin of the electro Metropolis offers, but with
>distortion and extreme frequencies (meaning they're basically the same
>music, structurally), I'd argue that either label could sign and release a
>monkey's music first.
Ant Zen would. Metro doesn't sign artists, they license them once they get
popular, generally. Its been their modus operandi since day one.
--
-@exii
#rmipeople / DALnet
www.deconstructing-man.com
"Nothing like a bloody explosion of cock to ruin a sex romp." - Dayv!
Flavius
says...
Monkeys would be great at making hardcore experimental music... let them
run loose in a packed studio with all the equipment on full blast... all
noise and chaos... very industrial, no?
However, it would take a monkey 1 billion years to make 10 seconds of an
FLA album or something that sounded like it.
Flavius
e n -
wrote:
>e n - <jy...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>: but voltair likes to be contentious and contrary i think
>: even if he does seem to be getting on more peopl'es nerves recently.
>
>this is a new development?
not really. but you seem toi be riling people up more than usual. then
again i skip a lot of threads so i may just not have noticed as much
in the past.
>people always get annoyed when I blow the lid off of their half baked
>attempts to intellectualize thier own personal preferences...
mmm...but you do that too. perhaps it is because you are closer to the
minority on rmi right now?
>
>: maybe jr riled him up a bit too much?
>
>nah, that pansy ass couldnt flame if he was covered in napalm at a mexican
>barbeque
yeah but he got you to killfile. i don't recall you doing that before.
and filter from your email too no less. not necessarily flaming, just
by trolling.
anyway as long as you don't refer to leeb as true industrial and
gristle as "thrash industrial" (refer to them both as industrial if
you like) i'm content.
np: jeff greinke - cities in fog
Meshlife
that many have started catching up to him. :-)
<<<
yeah well his newer material doesn't have the same impact as the older stuff.
i remember hearing the initial command and state of mind for the first time and
i could tell he was ahead of others like 242. as far as i'm concerned FLA was
always better than even skinny puppy. anyway, yeah, people have caught up to
what he's done in the past. i like his style, as long as that keeps going i'm
a leeb fan.
er'ehwon
tapeworm
>yeah well his newer material doesn't have the same impact as the older stuff.
>i remember hearing the initial command and state of mind for the first time and
>i could tell he was ahead of others like 242. as far as i'm concerned FLA was
>always better than even skinny puppy.
And exactly what kind of crack are you on?
- tapeworm
np: Speedy J "A Shocking Hobby"
"dream on, you swedish qjeen. 5 minutes on the mixer and thee doktor will
have those paintfaces screaming louder than your mom was last night."
- doktor industrial on goths at clubs.
Meshlife
while the target brand is nice enough, i do in fact prefer the walmart brand of
crack. let's be real, here. seriously, that skinny puppy stuff doesn't grow
old on you after a while? the 'horror' element is just pretty funny. but i
have to admit that FLA doesn't have very good lyrics. but neither does puppy
so FLA is still on top. to be fair i would like to see another puppy album.
er'ehwon
tapeworm
>while the target brand is nice enough, i do in fact prefer the walmart brand of
>crack. let's be real, here. seriously, that skinny puppy stuff doesn't grow
>old on you after a while? the 'horror' element is just pretty funny. but i
>have to admit that FLA doesn't have very good lyrics. but neither does puppy
>so FLA is still on top. to be fair i would like to see another puppy album.
i'm not even looking at lyrics, though, i'm looking at the overal
complexity of composition, flow of the songs, etc. Puppy just has
more talent.
As for it getting old, doesn't hearing Bill Leeb sample everyone elses
beats and movies get old after awhile? I'll admit, I like most of the
stuff up to "Tactical Neural Implant", but after that.. eugh.
- tapeworm
np: Bypass Unit "Green Dreams"
Meshlife
As for it getting old, doesn't hearing Bill Leeb sample everyone elses
beats and movies get old after awhile? I'll admit, I like most of the
stuff up to "Tactical Neural Implant", but after that.. eugh. <<<<<<<<
yep, excellent point, very true. back in the day, i didn't mind the sampling,
but as for the new stuff it sounds pretty weak, what is that, flavor of the
weak, that cd is pretty lame, although it does have moments. isn't industrial
music pretty silly in general? i just can't take puppy seriously anymore but
even i know they still deserve respect. on top of that, though, FLA just
presented something that was more in tune with me than puppy.
er'ehwon
J. Wood
> As for it getting old, doesn't hearing Bill Leeb sample everyone elses
> beats and movies get old after awhile?
He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
J
AJ
Meshlife wrote:
<snippage>
> flavor of the weak, that cd is pretty lame, although it does have
> moments.
The first disc of RE-WIND is what FOTW should have been. Not that it's
an outstanding disc, but it's sure as hell an improvement.
> isn't industrial music pretty silly in general?
Huh?
AJ
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tapeworm
<con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
>You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
>right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
Bill Leeb, you goddamn son of a bitch.
- tapeworm
np: Cold Fusion Mafia "Rank/Brainscan"
Voltair
: Voltair <jrd...@unix.amherst.edu> was all like:
: <snip yet another pointless rant>
: *plonk*
oh gosh, you killfiled me. bohoo. you know Im right and you cant take it.
good luck killfiling all the people who reply to me
Voltair
: What I would give to see this argued on the tumorlist...if only for comedic
: value alone.
well throw it on the grill, nigguh, and tell me what happens
Voltair
: However, with Metro already releasing the music of one Orangutan
: Erickson, I think it has better connections to hit up the monkey market in
: the future.
sorry, my bad
Voltair
: Monkeys would be great at making hardcore experimental music... let them
: run loose in a packed studio with all the equipment on full blast... all
: noise and chaos... very industrial, no?
: However, it would take a monkey 1 billion years to make 10 seconds of an
: FLA album or something that sounded like it.
smart man
Voltair
: not really. but you seem toi be riling people up more than usual.
I know. Im getting more adept at playing on peoples psychological
weaknesses
: mmm...but you do that too. perhaps it is because you are closer to the
: minority on rmi right now?
am I? who knows
:>
:>: maybe jr riled him up a bit too much?
:>
:>nah, that pansy ass couldnt flame if he was covered in napalm at a mexican
:>barbeque
: yeah but he got you to killfile. i don't recall you doing that before.
I explained that. he was one of the most boring flamers ever to have
spooged online
: anyway as long as you don't refer to leeb as true industrial and
: gristle as "thrash industrial" (refer to them both as industrial if
: you like) i'm content.
I dig em both :)
e n -
wrote:
>e n - <jy...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>: not really. but you seem toi be riling people up more than usual.
>
>I know. Im getting more adept at playing on peoples psychological
>weaknesses
haha. then i guess i'm waiting till you get on my nerves.
>
>: mmm...but you do that too. perhaps it is because you are closer to the
>: minority on rmi right now?
>
>am I? who knows
i got that impression. for now i mean. the tides are always changing
here and i think the atmosphere is dif. here than when i first came
so...temporarily anyway
that and well the only person vocally on your side of things recently
is eschie. which is just damned funny.
>: anyway as long as you don't refer to leeb as true industrial and
>: gristle as "thrash industrial" (refer to them both as industrial if
>: you like) i'm content.
>
>I dig em both :)
cool. i just remember some gothic man (way too old to still be doing
it imo) trying to convince me that tg was not true industrial. but
project pitchfork and leeb were. it was an interesting experience
but anyways, carry on. get rid of scrufffy part II yet?
that was who was doing all that one line FA stuff right?
np: fugazi - live at fort reno 1997
iceolate
website? that is the most retarded thing i have heard in my life, i
think...
no... that's not true...
Voltair wrote:
> Unidentifd <unide...@aol.com> wrote:
> : << Front Line Assembly new Interview
>
> : http://members.netscapeonline.co.uk/barcodexl >>
>
> : for me to poop on.
Francois Labreque
Just so Dayv! can see this...*
np: Numb - Blood Meridian (Let's wake the neighbors!)
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* Provided I'm not in his killfile, too.
Locke
|Monkeys would be great at making hardcore experimental music... let them
|run loose in a packed studio with all the equipment on full blast... all
|noise and chaos... very industrial, no?
|
|However, it would take a monkey 1 billion years to make 10 seconds of an
|FLA album or something that sounded like it.
However, during the eighties and nineties it has been demonstrated
experimentally, that with the help of a sidekick like Rhys Fulber or
Chris Petersen a monkey can produce several albums like that in
reasonable time.
CU,
Locke
NP: Ah Cama-Sotz "Epithaphe"
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Dayv!
>
> * Provided I'm not in his killfile, too.
You're in the special killfile, baby.
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phat mike
neuron capacitor caused the following to appear :
> that and well the only person vocally on your side of things recently
> is eschie. which is just damned funny.
thats only cause eschie is always pulling for the underdog.
voltair is the rmi equivilant to US welfare moochers.
-mike
np: unfrozen caveman lawyer
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crackin wise about our mommas!"
eschaton
e n - wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 May 2001 06:18:20 GMT, Voltair <jrd...@unix.amherst.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >e n - <jy...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
> >
> >: not really. but you seem toi be riling people up more than usual.
> >
> >I know. Im getting more adept at playing on peoples psychological
> >weaknesses
>
> haha. then i guess i'm waiting till you get on my nerves.
> >
> >: mmm...but you do that too. perhaps it is because you are closer to the
> >: minority on rmi right now?
> >
> >am I? who knows
>
> i got that impression. for now i mean. the tides are always changing
> here and i think the atmosphere is dif. here than when i first came
> so...temporarily anyway
>
> that and well the only person vocally on your side of things recently
> is eschie. which is just damned funny.
It's because his friend is supposed to give me a la...uhh...makeover.
:)
--
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Voltair
: voltair is the rmi equivilant to US welfare moochers.
????? I dont evenderstand that enough to be offended.
Ebola/Andy
Ebola
np: Autechre "Confield"
Flavius
con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net says...
> He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
> You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
> right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
I thought he drove a HumVee?!
Flavius
Flavius
says...
> On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:58:21 GMT, "J. Wood"
> <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>
> >He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
> >You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
> >right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
>
> Bill Leeb, you goddamn son of a bitch.
Bill Leeb ate my cat.
First he scared the cat into submission with his menacing whisper.
Next, he electrocuted the poor thing by throwing it into a full tub of
water, along with one of his Korgs. Then he cooked it on a burning pile
of NIN CDs. He then ate it at my coffeetable while watching Gladiator.
Flavius
_loc...@innocent.com says...
> However, during the eighties and nineties it has been demonstrated
> experimentally, that with the help of a sidekick like Rhys Fulber or
> Chris Petersen a monkey can produce several albums like that in
> reasonable time.
Hee hee. Maybe. I wonder what would happen if Leeb really went full solo.
Whay can't he pull a Claus Larsen and do it all himself?
Flavius
phat mike
neuron capacitor caused the following to appear :
> phat mike <phatmikeCLE...@apathy.ne.mediaone.net> wrote:
>
>: voltair is the rmi equivilant to US welfare moochers.
>
> ????? I dont evenderstand that enough to be offended.
um. you are to rmi as welfare mothers are to the US.
eschie feels bad for the welfare mothers (being a pinko bastid and all)
and wants to support them as much as possible to make up for his rich
suburban white guilt.
he wants to support you cuz he feels bad for you or some shit. i dunno.\
it sounded right at the time. :)
-mike
np: nothing
Locke
|Hee hee. Maybe. I wonder what would happen if Leeb really went full solo.
|Whay can't he pull a Claus Larsen and do it all himself?
You've answered that already ... experimental hardcore industrial
noise. But probably Bill and his label just don't like that idea
too much.
CU,
Locke
NP: The The "Mind Bomb"
J. Wood
> On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:58:21 GMT, "J. Wood"
> <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>
> >He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
> >You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
> >right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
>
> Bill Leeb, you goddamn son of a bitch.
Of the new ones, my favourites are all your base are belong to Leeb, and Leeb Harvey
Oswald.
J
J. Wood
> In article <3b00c1db...@news.jps.net>, tape...@blackops.org
> says...
> > On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:58:21 GMT, "J. Wood"
> > <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
> >
> > >He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
> > >You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
> > >right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
> >
> > Bill Leeb, you goddamn son of a bitch.
>
> Bill Leeb ate my cat.
>
> First he scared the cat into submission with his menacing whisper.
> Next, he electrocuted the poor thing by throwing it into a full tub of
> water, along with one of his Korgs.
Was there a crayfish already in the tub of water?
J, who thinks someone should superimpose Leeb's head over that of General Feldmarshal Von
Leeb, CINC Heeresgruppe Nord, Operation Barbarossa, 1941. If I knew anything about
photoshop it'd already have been done.
J
e n -
<con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>Flavius wrote:
>
>> In article <3b00c1db...@news.jps.net>, tape...@blackops.org
>> says...
>> > On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:58:21 GMT, "J. Wood"
>> > <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>> >
snip
>>
>> First he scared the cat into submission with his menacing whisper.
>> Next, he electrocuted the poor thing by throwing it into a full tub of
>> water, along with one of his Korgs.
>
>Was there a crayfish already in the tub of water?
>
>J, who thinks someone should superimpose Leeb's head over that of General Feldmarshal Von
>Leeb, CINC Heeresgruppe Nord, Operation Barbarossa, 1941. If I knew anything about
>photoshop it'd already have been done.
hey have you listened to matmos? i believe there's a bassline
contructed out of the sampled nbeural tissue ofa crayfish. it's on
their debut whatever that is.
jus throwing in my random 2 cents.
np: some random nick cave song
>
>J
>
>
J. Wood
> hey have you listened to matmos? i believe there's a bassline
> contructed out of the sampled nbeural tissue ofa crayfish. it's on
> their debut whatever that is.
No, I've not...but I was actually referring to an old RMI joke about crappy project pitchfork
lyrics. If you don't remember it it's roughly akin to the Genesis P-Orridge/Coke machine
thing, except for the fact that it's actually true.
J
J. Wood
In my ideal world, I'd be driving over Leeb's pansy faux-militaristic nu-jeep with my
Tiger tank, with gigantic speakers attached to the turret blasting "Structures of
Destruction" by Winterkalte. Hell, while we're at it, I'd have Micheal Wittman and
Balthazar Woll of the Leibstandarte-SS sPzAbt laying the gun, and the entire friggin'
GrossDeutschland Panzergrenadier Division scouring the streets behind me for his
relatives. And a beer in one hand, and her on my lap, and a pocket full of shells.
OK, I don't dislike the guy *that* much, but the image amuses me.
J, so much of a war geek that he can match the amount he gives in change at work to a
weapon caliber or designation number a good 75% of the time. I think I have too much
spare time.
J. Wood
> Hee hee. Maybe. I wonder what would happen if Leeb really went full solo.
> Whay can't he pull a Claus Larsen and do it all himself?
Uhh, because he can't?
J
Per Ekman
> J, so much of a war geek that he can match the amount he gives in change at work to a
> weapon caliber or designation number a good 75% of the time. I think I have too much
> spare time.
And yet you're satisfied playing strategy games for wimps...
I still can't believe it.
*p
J. Wood
Not any more. Unless, of course, Steel Panthers: World at War counts as a game for wimps.
I just dislike strategic level stuff, I want to get right into the friggin' trench.
SP 5.0 released. It's good. Hand to hand fighting, tank overruns, updated OOBs, rarity
ratings for certain equipment so you wont have to fight nothing but Tigers and 88s, lots
and lots of little tweaks. And free, too. www.matrixgames.com.
J
Dayv!
>
> Not any more. Unless, of course, Steel Panthers: World at War counts
> as a game for wimps. I just dislike strategic level stuff, I want to
> get right into the friggin' trench.
>
> SP 5.0 released. It's good. Hand to hand fighting, tank overruns,
What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
np: The Smiths- Louder Than Bombs
e n -
hmm...i don't. but then again i tended to skip project pitchfork
threads. now gen p and the coke machine i remember.
weird.
np: calla - calla
Shervin Fatehi
news:9dubhb$2gf5$1...@ID-82567.news.dfncis.de...
> J. Wood <con...@diespamdietelusplanet.net> was all like:
> >
> > Not any more. Unless, of course, Steel Panthers: World at War counts
> > as a game for wimps. I just dislike strategic level stuff, I want to
> > get right into the friggin' trench.
> >
> > SP 5.0 released. It's good. Hand to hand fighting, tank overruns,
> > updated OOBs...
>
> What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
Why does God need a starship?
Shervin (GKL)
np: Paul Lansky, mild und leise
Todd Clayton
>
> SP 5.0 released. It's good. Hand to hand fighting, tank overruns, updated OOBs, rarity
> ratings for certain equipment so you wont have to fight nothing but Tigers and 88s, lots
> and lots of little tweaks. And free, too. www.matrixgames.com.
Shit. There goes my free time again...
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Todd Clayton
>
> > What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
>
> Why does God need a starship?
Quoting that movie is -500 industrial points.
Shervin Fatehi
news:3B02F989...@synthetic.org...
> Shervin Fatehi wrote:
> >
> > > What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
> >
> > Why does God need a starship?
>
> Quoting that movie is -500 industrial points.
Good thing I never said I'm industrial.
And I like that movie.
Bitch.
Shervin (GKL)
np: nothing
Dayv!
>
> Good thing I never said I'm industrial.
+500 industrial points for denying industrial status
Flavius
con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net says...
Gimme a good picture of each, and I'll do it for you!
Flavius
Flavius
con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net says...
> Flavius wrote:
>
> > In article <3AFF9DF8...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net>,
> > con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net says...
> > > He probably thinks he's "boldly subverting popular culture" or something similar.
> > > You drive that SUV straight from your Delerium-royalties big house in North Van and
> > > right off the Granville bridge, Leebo.
> >
> > I thought he drove a HumVee?!
>
> In my ideal world, I'd be driving over Leeb's pansy faux-militaristic nu-jeep with my
> Tiger tank, with gigantic speakers attached to the turret blasting "Structures of
> Destruction" by Winterkalte. Hell, while we're at it, I'd have Micheal Wittman and
> Balthazar Woll of the Leibstandarte-SS sPzAbt laying the gun, and the entire friggin'
> GrossDeutschland Panzergrenadier Division scouring the streets behind me for his
> relatives. And a beer in one hand, and her on my lap, and a pocket full of shells.
Are you a member of the German military? If not, I'm very scared.
Flavius
Flavius
Flavius
SPAM...@yourpain.com says...
> Shervin Fatehi <g...@mit.edu> was all like:
> >
> > Good thing I never said I'm industrial.
>
> +500 industrial points for denying industrial status
-500 + 500 = 0. Nothing. Which, according to Trent Reznor, is the epitome
of industrial. Congratulations.
Todd Clayton
>
> > > > > What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
> > > >
> > > > Why does God need a starship?
> > >
> > > Quoting that movie is -500 industrial points.
> >
> > Good thing I never said I'm industrial.
> >
> > And I like that movie.
>
> What movie?
+200 Industrial points for not knowing which movie.
Star Trek V.
Voltair
: eschiue wants to support you cuz he feels bad for you or some shit.
:i dunno.
: it sounded right at the time. :)
yeah, but eschie and I have always seen eye to I about quite a few
things (except for possibly reagrding when the is the proper time of your life
to lose your virginity)
J. Wood
> J. Wood <con...@diespamdietelusplanet.net> was all like:
> >
> > Not any more. Unless, of course, Steel Panthers: World at War counts
> > as a game for wimps. I just dislike strategic level stuff, I want to
> > get right into the friggin' trench.
> >
> > SP 5.0 released. It's good. Hand to hand fighting, tank overruns,
> > updated OOBs...
>
> What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
order of battle, you git:)
J
J. Wood
I guess you're scared, then.
J
Voltair
:> > SP 5.0 released. It's good. Hand to hand fighting, tank overruns,
:> > updated OOBs...
:>
:> What does a strategy game need out of band access for?
: order of battle, you git:)
hey, J, you played FAllout Tactics? that game rocks
J. Wood
> hey, J, you played FAllout Tactics? that game rocks
No. Loved and finished both Fallouts, but I dunno...the engine didn't
really lend itself to the kind of detail and realism I want, so I'm kinda
leery about this one.
J
Dog999
> > > RIGHT GUYS?
> >
> > Have I mentioned that Bill Leeb has mad style?
>
> Oh yes.. the new bright yellow hair and full white clothes. Very modern.
> Of course he can now be mistaken for a member of the Backstreet Boys,
> especially because of the way he tilts his head and grips his elbow in
> thr picture. Yahahahaha!
>
> Flavius
I would like to point out he has tits and a beer belly.
Voltair
: Voltair wrote:
oh but J, you gotta try it, the resolution they have beefed up at least a
substantial bit. Human and mutant flesh detonates in a more satisyingly
viscereal manner. There is a 2 mission shareware version out you should really
try. at least give the freeware a spin before you plunk down your
angrily earned cash on this release.....
J. Wood
> J. Wood <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
> : Voltair wrote:
>
> :> hey, J, you played FAllout Tactics? that game rocks
>
> : No. Loved and finished both Fallouts, but I dunno...the engine didn't
> : really lend itself to the kind of detail and realism I want, so I'm kinda
> : leery about this one.
>
> oh but J, you gotta try it, the resolution they have beefed up at least a
> substantial bit. Human and mutant flesh detonates in a more satisyingly
> viscereal manner.
That's not the kind of detail I meant. I was talking about the obsessive
nitpicking over individual weapons and unit statistics I find in the more "hard"
wargames out there. But, I'll download the demo and tell you what I think.
J
JT
con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net says...
> That's not the kind of detail I meant. I was talking about the obsessive
> nitpicking over individual weapons and unit statistics I find in the more "hard"
> wargames out there. But, I'll download the demo and tell you what I think.
Beware... my friends tried the demo and said there was no way to set it
to turn based combat (like the other Fallouts), so it was impossible.
However, they got a brain and made it possible in the final game.
I've played neither, so this is all hearsay.
--
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J. Wood
> In article <3B0BE632...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net>,
> con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net says...
> > That's not the kind of detail I meant. I was talking about the obsessive
> > nitpicking over individual weapons and unit statistics I find in the more "hard"
> > wargames out there. But, I'll download the demo and tell you what I think.
>
> Beware... my friends tried the demo and said there was no way to set it
> to turn based combat (like the other Fallouts), so it was impossible.
> However, they got a brain and made it possible in the final game.
I turned it to turn based from the options screen before I even started the game
itself...and my verdict? Bland, boring rubbish. Everything that made Fallout so good
is GONE. This reeks of a cash-in.
J
eschaton
What made fallout good IMO was the RPG elements and the really twisted,
anti PC, sense of humor in the games. Which is why I won't check out
the new one.
--
The ass is not a genital - Jamie Rosen
Voltair
: I turned it to turn based from the options screen before I even started the game
: itself...and my verdict? Bland, boring rubbish. Everything that made Fallout so good
: is GONE. This reeks of a cash-in.
Bah, cranky, as usual. This is down and dirty Mad Max style firefights,
personalized death and destruction for the 23rd century, and frankly, I dont
know why you think its so bland. Of course there is virtually no roleplaying,
but thats why they called it Fallout : TACTICS , not Fallout III. Frankly
you sound like you were expecing fallout III, or some Post Nuclear version
of Command and Conquer, which has much too much shit going on for ADD people
like me to deal with well....
J
>game
>: itself...and my verdict? Bland, boring rubbish. Everything that made
>Fallout so good
>: is GONE. This reeks of a cash-in.
Micro Forte laid next to all employees after it's release. Interplay needs
money, BAD.
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.j (currently residing in my y2k shelter..hmm...canned peaches)
"You must ask yourself, are you funky enough to be a Globe Trotter?"