Peanut butter
phat mike
neuron capacitor caused the following to appear :
[snip peanut butterings]
> Does this mean I'm industrial?
depends wether or not you were eating creamy or chunky..
-mike
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monkey boy wrote:
>
> Does this mean I'm industrial?
>
if your penis can turn into a drill and skewer little japanese girls,
sure...
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J. Wood
> Does this mean I'm industrial?
>
Only if you ate the entire jar in one sitting.
J
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Todd Clayton
>
> > Does this mean I'm industrial?
>
> Only if you ate the entire jar in one sitting.
I'm shocked that this answer hasn't been given at least 8 times.
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are really good at heart." - Anne Frank
Sushi Hat
> Does this mean I'm industrial?
No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
Eat an entire jar of Nutella, then we'll talk.
> MB
Ch1naRose
>
>No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
>
>Eat an entire jar of Nutella, then we'll talk.
I don't care much for peanut butter, but I'd kill for some Nutella and lady
fingers right now. Does that make me industrial? Probably not.
Chris O'Brien [Veni Vidi Exii]
swore unto me:
At least you're not crying out for Gnutella.
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Darren Miller
>>>> Does this mean I'm industrial?
>>>
>>>No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
>>>
>>>Eat an entire jar of Nutella, then we'll talk.
>>
>>I don't care much for peanut butter, but I'd kill for some Nutella and
>>lady fingers right now. Does that make me industrial? Probably not.
>
>At least you're not crying out for Gnutella.
>--
I was waiting for someone to say that...
D.
np: Severed Heads - Haul Ass
Francois Labreque
Sushi Hat wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, monkey boy wrote:
>
> > Does this mean I'm industrial?
>
> No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
Sorry, but it's Italian.
np: Autechre - Tri Repetae++ (disc 1)
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Nicolas Chevreux
<flab...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
>Sushi Hat wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 25 May 2001, monkey boy wrote:
>>
>> > Does this mean I'm industrial?
>>
>> No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
>
>Sorry, but it's Italian.
It's not French? Oh, Francois, you break my heart.
Nicolas
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Jamie Rosen
> Sushi Hat wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 25 May 2001, monkey boy wrote:
>>
>> > Does this mean I'm industrial?
>>
>> No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
>
> Sorry, but it's Italian.
But if Germany said "Boo", Italy would surrender. So it's German.
Jamie Rosen
half-Italian, so I can say stuff like that.
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keef
wrote:
>Francois Labreque (flab...@videotron.ca) writes:
>> Sushi Hat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 May 2001, monkey boy wrote:
>>>
>>> > Does this mean I'm industrial?
>>>
>>> No. Nutella, on the other hand, is WAY industrial, cos it's German.
>>
>> Sorry, but it's Italian.
>
>But if Germany said "Boo", Italy would surrender. So it's German.
>
The mafia would kick their pasty bums.
The mafia would assassinate a German leader and all the Germans would
be running around confused saying, "Who authorised this? I have seen
no paperwork? This has not been well organised". And then the bomb
would go off.
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J. Wood
> >But if Germany said "Boo", Italy would surrender. So it's German.
> >
>
> The mafia would kick their pasty bums.
>
> The mafia would assassinate a German leader and all the Germans would
> be running around confused saying, "Who authorised this? I have seen
> no paperwork? This has not been well organised". And then the bomb
> would go off.
Bullcrap. German C&C was more informal and less top-heavy than any army in
the world, at least in the 40s. They encouraged initiative and
improvisation and unorthodoxy and all the things every decent officer corps
has been ripping off ever since. If you wanna talk overbureaucratic combat
leadership, look no further than your own home isles, Keef.
J
Jamie Rosen
Now, I'm not saying the German government is or isn't overly bureaucratic,
but maybe you'd want to back your statements up with something a bit more
recent than 50-60 year old information?
np: Ruby _Short-Staffed At the Gene Pool_
Dayv!
>
> np: Ruby _Short-Staffed At the Gene Pool_
How is that? I thought the first Ruby was decent, but not something I
pull out and listen to very often.
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Jamie Rosen
"Dayv!" (laughingLOOK-M...@yourpain.com) writes:
> Jamie Rosen <dq...@freenet.carleton.ca> was all like:
>>
>> np: Ruby _Short-Staffed At the Gene Pool_
>
> How is that? I thought the first Ruby was decent, but not something I
> pull out and listen to very often.
Well, I don't have the first one to compare it to, but I'd say that
accurately describes this one. It's got some funky elements, some nice
percussion, and at times it really 'rocks'; however, it is not what I'd
call a 'memorable' album, as I'm already starting to forget about having
listened to it. Some of it (like the single, "Grace") is pretty catchy,
though.
It's probably worth purchasing, but you might want to try to find some
audio samples first, just in case.
np: Meat Beat Manifesto -- _Satyricon_
J. Wood
> > Bullcrap. German C&C was more informal and less top-heavy than any army in
> > the world, at least in the 40s. They encouraged initiative and
> > improvisation and unorthodoxy and all the things every decent officer corps
> > has been ripping off ever since. If you wanna talk overbureaucratic combat
> > leadership, look no further than your own home isles, Keef.
>
> Now, I'm not saying the German government is or isn't overly bureaucratic,
> but maybe you'd want to back your statements up with something a bit more
> recent than 50-60 year old information?
I have no recent information, because recent history is boring and aesthetically
displeasing:P
J
Todd Clayton
Whatever you think about recent history, Mr. Wood's summary of German
C&C is dead on accurate. For an interesting counterpoint, see the Soviet
style leadership in the same peroid. Rigid, with horrible tactics. Not
to mention the fact that most front line soldiers had Comissars pointing
rifles at thier backs.
The Italians couldn't keep it in thier damned pants, and attacked Greece
far too early. Considering thier performance in both World Wars, they
couldn't fight thier way out of a wet paper bag.
The French relied far too much on the Maginot line, and outdated defense
tactics. Unfortunately for them, WWI ended, and the German army moved on
tactically.
Unfortunately for the British, they had Neville Chamberlain at the helm
just prior to the war, and he was more concerned with containing the
German forces through appeasement and treaties.
The real tragedy was for the Soviet people who not only had to deal with
Hitlers army, but with Stalin as well. Stalinist purges set back the
Soviet union at least 10 years, if not 20. Point: Sergei Korolev, the
Soviet chief designer for thier space program, died in 1966 during
routine surgery. He died mostly because his time spent in the Gulags had
weakened him to a huge extent.
At any rate, there's RMI's history brief for the month.
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"Ah the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals
of the History Channel." - Homer Simpson.
J. Wood
> Whatever you think about recent history, Mr. Wood's summary of German
> C&C is dead on accurate. For an interesting counterpoint, see the Soviet
> style leadership in the same peroid. Rigid, with horrible tactics. Not
> to mention the fact that most front line soldiers had Comissars pointing
> rifles at thier backs.
>
PPsH's and Tokarevs, most likely...most commisars couldn't figure out how to tie their
boots let alone work the bolt on a rifle:P But, like it or not, draconian discipline
like that went a long way to stiffening the Red Army's initial weak will to resist.
But troops motivated by terror alone don't make good soldiers...at the heart of the
incredible tenacity of the Russian soldier, whether he's fighting Napoleon or
Guderian, is a fierce, deeply rooted visceral patriotism. Hate your government, love
your country was never truer than here.
General Erhard Rauss mentions in his memoirs that he actually thought very highly of
the higher echelon Soviet leadership, say, anything above the division/corps level.
They were exceptionally adept at rapid, stealthy redeployment and keeping the fighting
strength of their units up [albeit by ruthless exploitation of their own population],
as well as being basically immune to the terrain and weather difficulties of their
country that so plagued the Wehrmacht. It was their lower level command, particularly
units of regimental or smaller size, that was deficient. This is to a degree a
reflection of poor tactical training, but mostly a fear of initiative instilled by the
purges in the 30's, which would lead to by-the-letter execution of orders without
variation or attention paid to local prevailing conditions. IE, if an order from
above said attack here, when here is an open field and just a little over there allows
both a flank march and heavy woods to advance through for cover, the infantry would
attack here anyway. Pointless attacks and hideously costly defenses of useless points
really prevented the Russian numerical advantage from asserting itself immediately as
it would have with competant leadership.
>
> The Italians couldn't keep it in thier damned pants, and attacked Greece
> far too early. Considering thier performance in both World Wars, they
> couldn't fight thier way out of a wet paper bag.
>
Most of that was do to Mussolini's adventurous attempts to one-up the Fuhrer...unlike
Germany, however, he had neither the industrial base nor the motivated population
required to support a war economy, and moreover he chose areas for conquest that his
troops really didn't care about...I mean, Ethiopia? Yugoslavia? Feh. Although the
Italian infantry and especially their artillery were actually pretty competant, their
equipment and leadership were DIRE. Marshal Graziani would have been a cook in the
German army.
>
> The French relied far too much on the Maginot line, and outdated defense
> tactics. Unfortunately for them, WWI ended, and the German army moved on
> tactically.
>
Like the Brits, they planned for another trench-slogging match. They neglected to
note that tanks aren't much impressed by trenches, and modern aircraft not at all.
> The real tragedy was for the Soviet people who not only had to deal with
> Hitlers army, but with Stalin as well. Stalinist purges set back the
> Soviet union at least 10 years, if not 20. Point: Sergei Korolev, the
> Soviet chief designer for thier space program, died in 1966 during
> routine surgery. He died mostly because his time spent in the Gulags had
> weakened him to a huge extent.
>
The purges also had a gruesome effect on Russia's ability to wage war itself, by
cleaning out any officers with any shred of personal integrity and initiative and
replacing them with medal-heavy sycophants like Budenny for the most part. Marshal
Tukhachevsky had a well developed theory called "deep operations" that called for
systematic and coordinated attack by tanks, aircraft, and motorized infantry at the
main point of effort, with the intention of bringing the entire depth, not breadth, of
a defensive system under assault simultaneously...blitzkrieg/schwerpunkt in all but
name...but he was shot by the NKVD and replaced by Timoshenko, who was alright but
painfully orthodox. With guys like that Russia may well have stopped Germany in the
Ukraine in 41, says I.
>
> "Ah the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals
> of the History Channel." - Homer Simpson.
Did he actually say that?! What episode?
J
Francois Labreque
"J. Wood" wrote:
[snip history lesson]
> however, he had neither the industrial base nor the motivated
^^^^^^^^^^
At least it's on-topic.
np: RSA
Todd Clayton
>
> PPsH's and Tokarevs, most likely...most commisars couldn't figure out how to tie their
> boots let alone work the bolt on a rifle:P But, like it or not, draconian discipline
> like that went a long way to stiffening the Red Army's initial weak will to resist.
> But troops motivated by terror alone don't make good soldiers...at the heart of the
> incredible tenacity of the Russian soldier, whether he's fighting Napoleon or
> Guderian, is a fierce, deeply rooted visceral patriotism. Hate your government, love
> your country was never truer than here.
I think the phrase I would use here is "You can't stiffen a bucket of
spit with a little bit of lead." Lambs to the slaughter is all they were
until Stalin could get his act together. However, "Hate your government,
love the motherland" is bang on.
> General Erhard Rauss mentions in his memoirs that he actually thought very highly of
> the higher echelon Soviet leadership, say, anything above the division/corps level.
Too bad there were so few of them left after 1940. Luckily the
leadership that was thrown into place after the purges were young enough
to know how to play the "game" as well as fight the war.
> Most of that was do to Mussolini's adventurous attempts to one-up the Fuhrer...unlike
> Germany, however, he had neither the industrial base nor the motivated population
> required to support a war economy, and moreover he chose areas for conquest that his
> troops really didn't care about...I mean, Ethiopia? Yugoslavia? Feh. Although the
> Italian infantry and especially their artillery were actually pretty competant, their
> equipment and leadership were DIRE. Marshal Graziani would have been a cook in the
> German army.
Mussolini wasn't trying to one-up Hitler, as much as he was playing
"Keeping up with the Joneses." A lot of his most drastic tactical
failures came after hearing about another Nazi victory. He'd then try to
duplicate these successes, to obvious lack thereof. Also, as you noted,
the Italians had a lot of munitions, but they were so antiquated, it was
barely one step above the Poles, who (bravely, stupidly) charged panzer
divisions with cavalry.
> Like the Brits, they planned for another trench-slogging match. They neglected to
> note that tanks aren't much impressed by trenches, and modern aircraft not at all.
Agreed.
> The purges also had a gruesome effect on Russia's ability to wage war itself, by
> cleaning out any officers with any shred of personal integrity and initiative and
> replacing them with medal-heavy sycophants like Budenny for the most part. Marshal
> Tukhachevsky had a well developed theory called "deep operations" that called for
> systematic and coordinated attack by tanks, aircraft, and motorized infantry at the
> main point of effort, with the intention of bringing the entire depth, not breadth, of
> a defensive system under assault simultaneously...blitzkrieg/schwerpunkt in all but
> name...but he was shot by the NKVD and replaced by Timoshenko, who was alright but
> painfully orthodox. With guys like that Russia may well have stopped Germany in the
> Ukraine in 41, says I.
I have pictures of Zukhov with his chest full of medals. I swear they
must have used a cart to get him to parade. Luckily all he had to do was
stand there. Unfortunately, I'd have to disagree with you a tad. The
Germans had France and England *done* in 40-41. Going after the Russians
was stupid, but even is they had gone up against Russia with good
leadership, they would have been nearly as successful. Unfortunately,
having a few great leaders won't help at the squad level, and tactically
(not strategically) the USSR was over matched. They had better tanks,
but had no idea how to use them. Unfortunately, my own knowlege of the
Russian front is sketchy (*for a history buff) at best.
> > "Ah the Luftwaffe. The Washington Generals
> > of the History Channel." - Homer Simpson.
>
> Did he actually say that?! What episode?
Yep. Lisa the Tree Hugger (#CABF01 / SI-1201).
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"There is nothing new under the Sun,
for what is, is only what hath been before."
J. Wood
> > Most of that was do to Mussolini's adventurous attempts to one-up the Fuhrer...unlike
> > Germany, however, he had neither the industrial base nor the motivated population
> > required to support a war economy, and moreover he chose areas for conquest that his
> > troops really didn't care about...I mean, Ethiopia? Yugoslavia? Feh. Although the
> > Italian infantry and especially their artillery were actually pretty competant, their
> > equipment and leadership were DIRE. Marshal Graziani would have been a cook in the
> > German army.
>
> Mussolini wasn't trying to one-up Hitler, as much as he was playing
> "Keeping up with the Joneses." A lot of his most drastic tactical
> failures came after hearing about another Nazi victory. He'd then try to
> duplicate these successes, to obvious lack thereof.
Greece being the best example. I do believe however that he had a strong inferiority
complex vis-a-vis the Fuhrer, in that he rightly saw himself as the founder of fascism and
didn't like that his one-time protege was overtaking him. But it's semantics really, the
results are clear whatever the cause. I really don't blame the Italians for fighting so
poorly abroad, because really they had no motivation to do so...what baffles me is how
weakly they resisted when fighting in their own country. I can't really explain why a
country with such a proud military history [in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, but
still] could be rolled up so easily. I'd guess the social turmoil prevalent at the time
prevented them from making a unified defense.
> Also, as you noted,
> the Italians had a lot of munitions, but they were so antiquated, it was
> barely one step above the Poles, who (bravely, stupidly) charged panzer
> divisions with cavalry.
A popular myth. Really, there are no recorded incidents of the Poles actually charging
tanks...yes, they may have attacked Panzer Divisions, but you also know that those divisions
are usually about 80% mechanized infantry, not just armour. If tanks were around, it's
because they arrived as reinforcements to intervene in a counterattack already underway and
the Poles decided to press their attack anyway. As far as comparing them to the Italians,
although they had a far inferior air force and no navy worth mentioning, for infantry
equipment I'd say they were about on par. The Germans used lots of captured Polish arty and
small arms. The big difference between the Polish and Italian infantry is the former fought
with a will and the latter halfheartedly at best. Many Wehrmacht veterans will claim that
of all the opponents they fought, they respected the Polish best for their courage and
fighting qualities against terrible odds.
>
> > Like the Brits, they planned for another trench-slogging match. They neglected to
> > note that tanks aren't much impressed by trenches, and modern aircraft not at all.
>
> Agreed.
>
Of course, anyone who states the age of field fortifications was over, or is over even
today, need only look at the conflict in Russia, where everything was done on a massive
scale. 20-foot wide antitank ditches that stretched unbroken for hundreds of miles, etc.
Another commentary that Rauss chap makes is the incredible speed with which the Russians
were able to entrench themselves and become invisible to all but the most meticulous
reconaissance. Fortifications can still have a decisive effect if they are deployed
quickly, on the decisive axis, and in depth...case in point, Kursk. Where the French failed
is their inability to grasp the scale fortifications need to be on in order to slow a modern
army.
> I have pictures of Zukhov with his chest full of medals. I swear they
> must have used a cart to get him to parade. Luckily all he had to do was
> stand there.
Zhukov deserved them, though. He was one of the few really good leaders the Soviets had in
the early war period. In fact, I'd say he was the one truly outstanding leader produced by
the Allies, period. He combined utter ruthlessness with a surprising amount of subtlety and
personal initiative considering his background. I mean, people say Patton was good but I'm
convinced all he really did was yell a lot and let the American logistics tail overpower his
opponents.
> Unfortunately, I'd have to disagree with you a tad. The
> Germans had France and England *done* in 40-41.
And how were they going to finish England? The Luftwaffe was a tactical support force, not
an air superiority force, and besides, it's not as if Sea Lion was even remotely possible.
There's just no way the Kriegsmarine could have pulled off an amphibious landing on that
scale. Besides, it's been heavily theorized that Hitler respected the Brits and clung to
the idea that he could come to an arrangement with them in his new European order, for the
same reasons he let the BEF get away at Dunkirk.
> Going after the Russians
> was stupid, but even is they had gone up against Russia with good
> leadership, they would have been nearly as successful.
Well, better to hit an opponent hard, first, before he hits you. Attacking Russia was
perfectly rational to Hitler, both because of his obscurantist and megalomaniacal
tendencies, but also because from the very start the identity of the Nazi movement was tied
up in the ideological struggle against "Asiatic Bolshevism" which he saw as inextricably
linked with the Jewish conspiracy. To him, Russia represented the greatest ideological and
physical threat to Germanics peoples. He saw conflict between Europe [read: Germany] and
the east as a historical, dialectical inevitability and chose to strike first. From his own
eccentric worldview, the decision made perfect sense...and when better to do so than when
the Wehrmacht was equipped, mobilized, and flush from recent victories?
But yeah. I've been thinking lately, and I'm tired of living a marginal life as a
small-time retail drone. I went to university for four years only to learn I hate all those
scum and that I'll get nothing for my troubles. I want to be part of a world where how
skilled and motivated I am actually counts, and moreover where I feel like I'm doing
something more important than just paying for my next meal and night at the bar. They say
you regret what you didn't do more than what you did do, and well, I'm not getting any
younger. The profession of arms brings out much of what's noblest in man. In reflection,
I'd rather lug bullets than garbage.
So yeah, J. Wood is thinking of signing up. In a bizarre testament to the power of the
internet to replace actual human interaction, I sincerely care and am interested in what you
people think of this.
Even you, Deek.
J
keef
<con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>Bullcrap. German C&C was more informal and less top-heavy than any army in
>the world, at least in the 40s. They encouraged initiative and
>improvisation and unorthodoxy and all the things every decent officer corps
>has been ripping off ever since. If you wanna talk overbureaucratic combat
>leadership, look no further than your own home isles, Keef.
>
This is true, but Germany have since become incredibly well organised,
and besides, I was making a joke not a socio-political statement on
the countrys warfare capability.
But yeah, I wouldn't like our country to go into war again, you'd have
executive types at the top not having a clue and lager louts at the
bottom not giving a shit.
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<keef...@btinterSPAMDONKEYnet.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 27 May 2001 08:33:16 GMT, "J. Wood"
><con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote:
>
>>Bullcrap. German C&C was more informal and less top-heavy than any army in
>>the world, at least in the 40s. They encouraged initiative and
>>improvisation and unorthodoxy and all the things every decent officer corps
>>has been ripping off ever since. If you wanna talk overbureaucratic combat
>>leadership, look no further than your own home isles, Keef.
>>
>
>This is true, but Germany have since become incredibly well organised,
>and besides, I was making a joke not a socio-political statement on
>the countrys warfare capability.
>
>But yeah, I wouldn't like our country to go into war again, you'd have
>executive types at the top not having a clue and lager louts at the
>bottom not giving a shit.
context though was WWI. look what happened there, look at the
socio-economic conditions of the uk (20th century british history is
not known as the decline of britain for nothing) and then it makes
sense (guess this is more directed towards jamie). at any rate hitler
was a rather good (i dunno or rather don't remember if the proper word
is strategist or tactician) something. something which i don't think
that the british leaders anticipated or anybody else for that matter.
i could go further intot eh history of teh whole thing but don't think
anyone is interested.
np: damien jurado - rehearsals for departure
Francois Labreque
e n - wrote:
>
> i could go further intot eh history of teh whole thing but don't think
^^^^^^^^ ^^^
In another post, you said something about editing, what was it again?
;)
np: T. Albinoni - Adagio in G minor
Doktor Industrial
<snip long analysis of military history>
| I want to be part of a world where how skilled and motivated I am actually
counts, and
| moreover where I feel like I'm doing something more important than just
paying for my next
| meal and night at the bar. They say you regret what you didn't do more
than what you did do,
| and well, I'm not getting any younger. The profession of arms brings out
much of what's noblest
| in man. In reflection, I'd rather lug bullets than garbage.
|
| So yeah, J. Wood is thinking of signing up. In a bizarre testament to the
power of the
| internet to replace actual human interaction, I sincerely care and am
interested in what you
| people think of this.
so how exactly is serving in the canadian military different than working at
subway? at least at subway you face the possibility of participation in
armed conflict....
--
dr. industrial.
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"it is a tale told by an idiot; full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
Francois Labreque
Doktor Industrial wrote:
>
> "J. Wood" <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> | So yeah, J. Wood is thinking of signing up. In a bizarre testament to the
> power of the
> | internet to replace actual human interaction, I sincerely care and am
> interested in what you
> | people think of this.
>
> so how exactly is serving in the canadian military different than working at
> subway? at least at subway you face the possibility of participation in
> armed conflict....
Not really. Unless you count being robbed at knife-point as being
"armed conflict" (which would be a stupid thing to do as Subway sandwich
engineers also wield knives...) The only way to be involved in armed
conflict in Canada is to join a biker gang.
np: snoring cat on my lap preventing me from changing CDs.
Doktor Industrial
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| Doktor Industrial wrote:
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| > "J. Wood" <con...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net> wrote in message
| > news:3B1837AC...@DIESPAMDIEtelusplanet.net...
| >
| > | So yeah, J. Wood is thinking of signing up. In a bizarre testament to
the
| > power of the
| > | internet to replace actual human interaction, I sincerely care and am
| > interested in what you
| > | people think of this.
| >
| > so how exactly is serving in the canadian military different than
working at
| > subway? at least at subway you face the possibility of participation
in
| > armed conflict....
|
| Not really. Unless you count being robbed at knife-point as being
| "armed conflict" (which would be a stupid thing to do as Subway sandwich
| engineers also wield knives...)
hey--the robber has a knife, the guy working has a knife. they fight each
other. thee doktor sees arms, and conflict. this fits the definition
rather well.
...and btw, as a former member of the subway brotherhood, allow thee doktor
to clarify--it's not 'sandwich ENGINEER'. it's 'sandwich ARTIST'.
StvCD7
>at
>> subway? at least at subway you face the possibility of participation in
>> armed conflict....
>
>Not really. Unless you count being robbed at knife-point as being
>"armed conflict" (which would be a stupid thing to do as Subway sandwich
>engineers also wield knives...) The only way to be involved in armed
>conflict in Canada is to join a biker gang.
>
you're actually safer in the military than in the "civilized" world
Per Ekman
> So yeah, J. Wood is thinking of signing up. In a bizarre testament
> to the power of the internet to replace actual human interaction, I
> sincerely care and am interested in what you people think of this.
If you're motivated and manage to end up in a good unit it can be a
very educational and interesting experience. I was drafted to the
Swedish Coast Artillery and spent a year in the archipelago, throwing
divers overboard, searching for crashed airplanes and hauling big-ass
mines all over the place. Good, clean fun for the whole family. I
really did have a good time and came away with a pretty substantial
knowledge of diesel engines and navigation (not to mention the art of
assembling a rifle with a bag over your head). And you meet all kinds
of interesting people, like the guy who farted so violently that he
had to hold on to the bed to keep standing.
It's the good life actually. Someone makes your "food", someone washes
your clothes, someone even tells you how to walk and where.
You do end up tending to view civilians who walk around with various
bits of cammo-clothing as pathetic posers though.
*p
Todd Clayton
>
> > So yeah, J. Wood is thinking of signing up. In a bizarre testament
> > to the power of the internet to replace actual human interaction, I
> > sincerely care and am interested in what you people think of this.
>
> If you're motivated and manage to end up in a good unit it can be a
> very educational and interesting experience. I was drafted to the
> Swedish Coast Artillery and spent a year in the archipelago, throwing
From Black Adder goes forth:
"It's a man's life in the womens auxillary balloon corps!"