Skinny Puppy - Frequently Asked Questions

[sgol...@shell.monmouth.com]

Hi there-

Here is the latest copy of the Skinny Puppy FAQ which I've been working=20
on and sending to the epilogue list. I figured it was time to share it=20
with the outside world so, here ya go. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Corey

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=09=09The Skinny Puppy (and related band) =20
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=09=09=09=09F A Q =20
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=09=09=09 version 1.1 =20
=09=09=09Last Updated 7/8/97=20
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=09=09Written and maintained by =20
Corey (sgol...@monmouth.com) and SKUMM (ande...@up.lib.mi.us) =20
(with noted sections quoted from Nettwerk=92s customer service)=20
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With thanks to and help from: =20
=09Artmaker=20
=09Rene H.C.=20
=09Dead Shot=20
=09Kevin Lewis=20
=09Greg Clow =20
=09Dierdre
=09JDL=20
=09MagerValp=20
=09Sevorg=20
=09L=92Ogre2=923=20
=09David Pattee
=09Blaine Lefort=20
=09James Annet
=09T o M
=09Jo-Ann Greene =20
=09Peter Cieghn=20
=09Subconscious Communications and their web site=20
=09Nettwerk (esp. Armand Sebris and Adam Drake)=20
=09and of course Skinny Puppy and everyone involved with it =20
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=09=09Dedicated to the life and music of Dwayne R. Goettel=20
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-General Questions =20
-Member Info =20
-Questions By Album/Era =20
=09=3DBack and Forth=3D=20
=09=3DRemission=3D=20
=09=3DBites=3D=20
=09=3DMind: The Perpetual Intercourse=3D=20
=09=3DCleanse, Fold, and Manipulate=3D=20
=09=3DVIVIsectVI=3D=20
=09=3DRabies=3D=20
=09=3DAin=92t It Dead Yet? (live)=3D=20
=09=3DToo Dark Park=3D=20
=09=3DLast Rights=3D=20
=09=3DThe Process=3D=20
=09=3DBrap=3D=20
-Miscellaneous Questions=20
-The Videos =20
-Other Projects and Bands =20
=09=3DSubconscious Communications=3D=20
=09=3DDownload=3D=20
=09=3DaDuck=3D=20
=09=3DDoubting Thomas=3D=20
=09=3DThe Tear Garden/The Legendary Pink Dots=3D=20
=09=3DHilt/The Flu/Lee Chubby King=3D =20
=09=3DPlateau=3D=20
=09=3DcEvin Key Solo=3D=20
=09=3DCyberaktif/Front Line Assembly=3D=20
=09=3DA Chud Convention=3D=20
=09=3DHell O=92 Deth Day=3D=20
=09=3DcEvin=92s Pre-Puppy Work=3D=20
=09=3DMark Spybey/Dead Voices On Air=3D=20
=09=3DMinistry/Revolting Cocks/PTP=3D=20
=09=3DMutual Mortuary=3D=20
=09=3DW.E.L.T.=3D=20
=09=3DPigface=3D=20
=09=3DRitalin=3D=20
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=09=09=09Frequently Asked Questions=20
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=09=93Answer me. Can=92t you talk? Can=92t you move? Answer me!=94=20
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-General Questions- =20
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-How did the band start? =20
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Skinny Puppy began when cEvin and Ogre met up and discovered that they =20
had similar tastes for the extreme. cEvin, extremely frustrated with playin=
g =20
in a pop band (see Images In Vogue question below), had the urge to =20
create something that was raw and real. Having learned a great deal about =
=20
the technical aspects of electronic music from his time in Images In Vogue,=
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cEvin felt he knew enough to be able to do it on his own, and started =20
experimenting along with Ogre. Ogre, who was at the time interested in =20
playing music, began adding lyrics to cEvin's music due to his writing =20
experience. They begin writing songs as a reaction to everything they hated=
=20
about pop music. Manipulating and mutilating sound that was already in =20
existence, Puppy began creating "audio sculpture". They quickly =20
completed their first demo/tape/album called Back and Forth and =20
distributed it around Vancouver. A friend of cEvin's was starting up a =20
record label called Nettwerk. Skinny Puppy signed to Nettwerk and =20
released their first album (well, technically an EP) called Remission in =
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1984. The rest is history. =20
=20
-Where did they get the name Skinny Puppy? =20
=20
While the name can be interpreted a number of different ways and has =20
many different levels of meaning, the basic idea is that of an abused, =20
neglected animal who doesn't speak much but when he does it is a pain =20
filled yelp. Early on, the concept for the band was to look at the whole =
=20
world through the eyes of a dog. This resulted in Ogre's lyrics for K-9 =20
which became the first Puppy song. An interesting story (which may or =20
may not be true...) is that cEvin had the demo tape of the song with him at=
=20
an all night party. He eventually passed out and when he awoke, found the =
=20
words "Skinny Puppy" written on the tape. =20
=20
-What were their influences?=20
=20
There were many bands that were influential to Skinny Puppy. One of the =20
major, early influences was Throbbing Gristle, the band that created (or at=
=20
least named) the concept of industrial music. Another heavy influence was =
=20
the pioneering German synth band Kraftwerk. cEvin said once that when =20
he got his first Kraftwerk album, he got rid of the rest of his record coll=
ection =20
and started over. Some have said that early Skinny Puppy was a melding of =
=20
these two ends of the musical spectrum. Other influential bands include =20
SPK, Cabaret Voltaire, Nocturnal Emissions, Portion Control, and the =20
Legendary Pink Dots. It has also been suggested that Ogre=92s taste for liv=
e =20
performance art is a result of him being a fan of Alice Cooper as a kid. =
=20
=20
-Where is <dialogue sample here> from? =20
=20
Many spoken samples and sounds were taken from movies. A definitive list =
=20
of the sources for each song's samples can be found at the Skinny Puppy =20
Sample Source Archive (http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/jdeell/puppy.htm). =20
Another place to find info on samples by Skinny Puppy and any other band =
=20
(including projects like Doubting Thomas) is the Top Sample List =20
(http://phobos.astro.uwo.ca/%7Eetittley/top_samples/samples.html). Btw =20
Puppy is ranked as the highest sample using group by this list, and that=92=
s =20
not even counting Doubting Thomas, Cyberaktif, etc.=20
=20
-<Insert Album A> sounds nothing like <Insert Album B>, wtf? =20
=20
Skinny Puppy were not a band to repeat themselves. Rather than stagnating =
=20
their sound constantly changed, grew, and morphed. No one album can =20
give a complete indication of what they sounded like. Everyone has their =
=20
favorite, so get 'em all and decide for yourself. =20
=20
-What new stuff is coming out?=20
=20
Here=92s a list of planned and/or possible Puppy related releases=20
=20
Download: Charlie=92s Family Soundtrack (re-release in July)=20
Plateau: Dutch Flowers / White Widow (single; CD and vinyl in July?)=20
Doubting Thomas: Father Don=92t Cry (single, re-release in August)=20
cEvin Key: Music Fur/For Cats (Fall?)=20
Download: III (new album)=20
Download: Moth EP=20
Download: Resilient Remix EP=20
Skinny Puppy: Remix album =20
Skinny Puppy: 2 Sampling discs =20
Skinny Puppy: Back and Forth series 5/6 (these may be the above mentioned s=
ample discs)=20
aDuck: aDuck (full length album)=20
Kone: (album...this may or may not be related to SP, but Kone is on Subcon)=
=20
The Tear Garden: (new material)=20
Hilt: The Worst Of...=20
Plateau: (new material)=20
Subconscious Compilation 2=20
KMFDM: (new album w\ Ogre as guest artist)=20
Pigface: (new album w\ Ogre)=20
Ritalin: (new project of Ogre and Martin Atkins to be completed this summer=
)=20
W.E.L.T.: (album rumored to be coming out on Invisible though that may actu=
ally be=20
Ritalin)=20
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Also watch for Download on tour and some limited live Tear Garden shows!=20
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-Who were Skinny Puppy? =20
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Skinny Puppy started out as cEvin Key (Kevin Crompton) and Nivek Ogre =20
(Kevin Ogilvie). cEvin created most of the music and Ogre did the lyrics =
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and vocals. Early on Ogre contributed, however minimally, to the music, =20
playing some synths, some percussion, and handling his own vocal =20
treatments. When recording their first album, Remission, they hooked up =20
with producer Dave Ogilvie, who would remain a major contributor to the =20
band through most of their existence. When they started playing live, they =
=20
needed another keyboardist and brought in their friend Wilhelm Schroder. =
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Wilhelm didn't know very much about music, but really wanted to play so =20
Key showed him the ropes. Wilhelm played bass synth on some early tracks =
=20
and on the Bites tour (plus moaning on Stairs and Flowers). He was never =
=20
listed as an actual member on any of the releases, however. For a variety o=
f =20
reasons, he quit the band halfway through the recording of the third album,=
=20
Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse, and went on to start Front Line =20
Assembly as Bill Leeb. To fill the void, cEvin brought in Dwayne R. =20
Goettel (see question below), a classically trained and technically skilled=
=20
keyboardist. The two instantly clicked and Dwayne became a vital member =20
of the band. This lineup lasted for the rest of the bands history. When =20
Skinny Puppy broke up on June 12, 1995, Ogre went his way and cEvin =20
and Dwayne went theirs. Tragically, Dwayne died of a heroin overdose on =20
August 23, 1995. His legacy, as that of Skinny Puppy, forever lives on. =20
=20
-What is cEvin Key doing now? Where can I reach him? =20
=20
His main project is Download at the moment and he is working on some =20
other side projects, including The Tear Garden, Plateau, and Doubting =20
Thomas (of which cEvin has said has some new material will be released =20
eventually). A new Download album is supposedly due in the summer =20
without the aid of Mark Spybey, who split from the band in April. cEvin =20
Key has an email address (ck...@cyberstore.ca and/or ck...@vkool.com). =20
He seems to respond on a fairly regular basis and is very good natured =20
about answering fans=92 questions.=20
=20
-How the hell do you pronounce cEvin=92s name?=20
=20
Nowadays at least, he pronounces it just like =93Kevin=94. =20
=20
-How did cEvin get the nickname Kenny King?=20
=20
Someone was calling cEvin to the phone, and mispronounced his name as =20
Kenny King. And so, a new nickname was born. This is said to have =20
happened on the same day as the Cincinnati arrest incident, but that seems =
=20
to conflict with the name King appearing on the earlier Lee Chubby King =20
project (see below).=20
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-What is Ogre doing now? Where can I reach him? =20
=20
Supposedly he's been working on a project by the name of W.E.L.T with =20
Mark Walk for, oh, I'd say about nigh over 3 years now, and supposedly =20
they finished 14 tracks a LONG time ago. Apparently the deal Ogre had =20
with American Records got muddled and the album was put into limbo =20
when American Records was absorbed by Warner Bros. The delay was =20
furthered by Ogre=92s reluctance to release the album while certain other =
=20
=93artists=94 who he feels are =93exploiting=94 his past work are in the pu=
blic eye =20
right now. He=92s waiting it out till he feels its a better time to release=
the =20
album. In the meantime he is working on a completely new project with =20
Martin Atkins called Ritalin. They are working on Ritalin over the summer =
=20
so hopefully there will be some new Ogre stuff soon! He is rumored to =20
have taken part in the new KMFDM album and a new Pigface album. He =20
does have an email supposedly (pu...@netcom.com) but either he's not =20
answering any casual questions from fans anymore or he's moved because I =
=20
have never gotten anything in reply to the questions I have asked him in th=
e =20
past. You can try. =20
=20
- What was Dwayne up to before Puppy? How did he get involved in the band? =
=20
=20
Dwayne, who grew up in Edmonton, was in a band by the name of Psyche. =20
Although Psyche recorded, it was only after Dwayne left the band. Dwayne =
=20
was also in two other bands. One band called Voice did record an EP for a =
=20
local indie label. Another called Water, which featured a female vocalist, =
=20
never recorded but had opened for Puppy on the Bites tour. As the story =20
goes, Wilhelm Schroder (later Bill Leeb) did not want to go on another tour=
=20
with the band and Dwayne, having opened for Pup, fit the bill and was free.=
=20
cEvin and Dwayne quickly found that they worked well together and began =20
jamming. This resulted on their first song, Antagonism. Dwayne was a =20
member of Skinny Puppy until their breakup June 12, 1995. =20
=20
-Are Dave "the Rave" Ogilvie and Kevin "Nivek Ogre" Ogilvie related or the =
=20
same person? =20
=20
Absolutely not, it's all just a coincidence as far as the same last names g=
o. =20
Certain incorrect information has be printed in the past, but aside from a =
close =20
relationship, they are not related in any way. =20
=20
-OK, two Ogilvies I can buy...but three? Who is this Rosie =93Mowse=94 Ogil=
vie?=20
=20
Rosie Ogilvie is Dave Ogilvie=92s wife. She does backing vocals on Tear Or =
=20
Beat as Mowse and performed with Ogre and Rave at some animal rights =20
benefit shows.=20
=20
-Who is the Green Guy? =20
=20
Some say the green guy is the person who provided the pot during the =20
recording process, others say it's a person who played bass on some tracks,=
=20
still others say it was cEvin under the influence, and yet others say it's =
a name =20
for Marijuana altogether. =20
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=3DBack And Forth (series 1 and 2)=3D=20
=20
-What is Back and Forth series 1 and where can I get it? =20
=20
Back and Forth series 1 was their first, self produced tape released in ear=
ly =20
'84. Intended to be a run of 50 copies, cEvin got tired of dubbing them and=
=20
only ended up making 35. Years later, some copies numbered 36-50 turned =20
up, and it has been suggested that Bill Leeb made them and sold them to =20
some fans for quite a bit of money, but he denies it. cEvin says that as fa=
r =20
as he knows there were only 35. In addition, copies 1-15 were individually =
=20
hand dubbed, while 16-35 were high-speed dubbed, resulting in lower =20
quality. All of these track appear in a remastered form on Back and Forth =
=20
series 2. If you=92re an anal completist who still wants to hear the tracks=
in =20
the (in a few cases) slightly different original versions, bootleg copies o=
f =20
this release can be found. =20
=20
-What's that thing at the beginning of Smothered Hope (demo) on Back and =
=20
Forth series 2? =20
=20
This appears to be a live improvisation, performed right before Smothered =
=20
Hope. When the drums from Smothered Hope begin to come in, the track =20
switches to an early demo for Smothered Hope, as the title suggests. =20
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=3DRemission=3D=20
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=3DBites=3D=20
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-Who is that singing on the Centre Bullet?=20
=20
The vocals on this track are actually done by cEvin. Later on, cEvin redid =
=20
this song under the Tear Garden name with Edward Ka-Spel adding vocals. =20
Its kind of interesting, though, that cEvin=92s vocs on the original versio=
n =20
sound quite a bit similar to Edward=92s voice.=20
=20
-What is this extra track 17 on the Bites CD? =20
=20
This track is called One Day and was previously unreleased. The title =20
might be a reference to the original name of Puppy friends the Legendary =
=20
Pink Dots. =20
=20
-What's with all the different versions of Bites? =20
=20
While there were many different releases of Bites with different tracks on =
=20
them, the currently available =9193 CD release includes every track ever =
=20
released on any version of Bites except Cage, which you can get on the =20
Chainsaw EP. =20
=20
-Why are some of the same tracks that are on Remission on Bites as well?=20
=20
While it is not clear from the tracklist (or discography), the duplicated =
=20
tracks are different versions of the songs. The versions of Film and =20
Icebreaker on Remission are different than the ones on Bites. It should be =
=20
noted that if you have one of the Remission and Bites or Bites and =20
Remission compilation discs you will be missing out on a lot of material. I=
f =20
you want the complete picture, the way to get Remission and Bites are as =
=20
two separate CDs.=20
=20
-What was the tour like for this album?

The Bites tour of North America and Europe had the lineup of Ogre, cEvin, a=
nd Wilhelm=20
Schroeder. The set involved giant medieval-looking platforms that cEvin and=
Wilhelm=20
stood on and played from. Skulls and televisions on pedestals littered the =
stage. Ogre=20
occaisionally turned to a metallic rhythm setup, which looked much like a s=
wing set,=20
playing and banging on a variety of objects including cymbals, springs, and=
windchimes. A=20
life size (and Ogre-esque) stuffed doll hung in effigy from the percussion =
set. Ogre,=20
manipulating his own vocals live onstage, performed a variety of frightenin=
g acts which=20
included holding up a mirror to himself and the audience, slashing his own =
throat, and, in=20
the finale, smashing a skull against his head, shattering it to pieces. A g=
ood example of=20
what the tour looked like can be seen in the Smothered Hope and Far Too Fra=
il videos as=20
well as in the inside of the Back and Forth series 2 insert.=20

=3DMind: The Perpetual Intercourse=3D=20
=20
-Alright...let me guess...the version of Love on Mind:TPI is different than=
the one on =20
Bites?=20
=20
Yep. Good call:)=20
=20
-OK, why are Addiction and Deep Down Trauma Hounds on here? Weren=92t those=
=20
originally released on Cleanse, Fold, and Manipulate? And where is Stairs a=
nd Flowers =20
(Dub) from?=20
=20
The original vinyl/cassette release on Mind:TPI came out in =9186. The last=
song on the =20
album was Burnt With Water. The CD version was released in =9188, which was=
after =20
Cleanse, Fold, and Manipulate (and it=92s companion Addiction single) were =
released. As =20
bonus tracks on the CD version of Mind:TPI, tracks from the Addiction singl=
e were =20
added, even though they were from a later era. These two tracks are actual=
ly Addiction =20
(second dose) and Deep Down Trauma Hounds (remix), not the original version=
s of the =20
songs as the tracklist suggests. Further bonus tracks were taken from the C=
hainsaw EP. =20
These two tracks were Chainsaw and Stares and Flowers (Too Far Gone), the =
latter =20
retitled Stairs and Flowers (Dub). =20
=20
-Why is Dig It on the CD album the same as the remix on the Dig It single?=
=20
=20
For some reason, the original album version of Dig It was replaced with the=
12=94 remix for =20
the CD release of Mind:TPI. The version on the 12=94 Anthology is also the =
12=94 remix. =20
The original album version has never been released on CD.=20
=20
-What is the difference between the Chainsaw EP/Single and the Stairs and F=
lowers =20
EP/single?=20
=20
Stairs and Flowers was a slightly different version of Chainsaw made for th=
e US market. =20
The track Cage was dropped for Stairs and Flowers but the cover art was exa=
ctly the same =20
(except the title). Stairs and Flowers was available as a 12=94 only and is=
out of print, but the =20
Chainsaw EP is still available on CD.=20
=20
=20
=3DCleanse, Fold, And Manipulate=3D=20
=20
=3DVIVIsectVI=3D=20
=20
-Why is the album called VIVIsectVI? What=92s the VI for?=20
=20
This is a sort of wordplay to show the evil of vivisection. Switch the last=
VI =20
to the front and you get VIVIVIsect or 666 sect. =20
=20
-I heard of a song called Kill To Cure, what is it and why wasn't it releas=
ed? =20
=20
This was a song recorded around 87-88. It was never released but a bootleg =
=20
recording of a demo exists, and they performed it live during the early '88=
=20
European tour. The vocals for the demo version sound like a very early =
=20
scratch demo cut, and they were changed quite a bit for the live version. =
Its =20
not known exactly why this track wasn't released (any info on this would be=
=20
great). A live version of this track can be downloaded from the Skinny Pupp=
y=20
Unleashed web site at (http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc21870) =20
=20
-I heard they got arrested in '88, why? =20
=20
A person in the audience during the VIVIsectVI tour mistakenly thought =20
the stuffed dog Chud, which Ogre ripped apart on stage in order to show =20
the horrors of vivisection, was a real animal and called the police. After =
=20
showing up backstage and finding that Chud indeed was not real, they =20
basically tried to find a reason to be there and after some harsh words wer=
e =20
exchanged Ogre and cEvin among others spent the night in jail under =20
disorderly conduct charges. Dwayne, who was actually rolling a joint as =
=20
the cops came in, managed to escape due to his unique power of =20
invisibility. =20
=20
-I heard about Chud getting stolen, what happened? =20
=20
After the show in Detroit, some girl managed to grab Chud as a souvenir of =
=20
the show and left it in the back of her unlocked car after she got home. Th=
e =20
band followed her around the city. Ogre not only recovered Chud but also
entered the girl=92s house and yelled at her parents. =20
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=3DRabies=3D=20
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-Who is the Cyan credited with lyrics and vocals for Rain? =20
=20
Cyan was supposedly Ogre=92s girlfriend at the time. =20
=20
-What exactly is this track Spahn Dirge? Where have I heard those lyrics be=
fore?=20
=20
Spahn Dirge is a live in-studio jam including everyone from the band. It =
=20
probably involved guests including Al Jourgensen. It appears as a B-side on=
=20
the Tin Omen single and as a bonus track on the CD version of Rabies. =20
Some of the lyrics are borrowed (and subsequently warped) from Revolting =
=20
Cock=92s Attack Ships On Fire and Led Zeppelin=92s When The Levee Breaks. =
=20
=20
-I heard Rabies got remastered. How can I tell if I have the original or re=
mastered version?=20
What=92s the difference?=20
=20
The original master had been put through a Dolby noise reduction that =20
cEvin loathed, so he went back and remastered it for CD in =9193. If you =
=20
have it on vinyl or cassette, you=92ve got the original master version. =20
Otherwise, read on. =20
=20
Here=92s the info straight from Nettwerk:=20
=20
Skinny Puppy Rabies Remastered Quasi-FAQ=20
=20
Here's the long story about Rabies and the "first master" vs. "re-mastered"=
=20
explanation:=20
=20
- Rabies was first released in 1989 on LP and Cassette. This was at a time=
=20
when you still had to wait a few weeks for the CD to be done. The LP and=20
the Cassette at the time had a specific type of master that was still in=20
use for vinyl and cassette manufacture (as opposed to CD's.)=20
=20
- When the CD first came out, it featured the same mastering as the=20
original LP and Cassette. This was only for the first two pressings.=20
=20
- When those original copies ran out in Canada (at the time that's the only=
=20
place it was available) we put out a "remastered" pressing specifically for=
=20
CD. The CD has always had this master ever since. The remastered version=20
came out in early 1993. If you bought it anytime after that *IN CANADA* you=
=20
will have this version of the CD.=20
=20
- If you have any doubt in your mind whatsoever, you should be ordering it=
=20
from our mail order dept.=20
=20
On a technical note: "Re-mastering" or just plain "mastering" is the art of=
=20
clarifying and raising the overall volume of all of the mixes on an album=
=20
(no matter what format) to a certain level so that it is the same volume=20
(or a more uniform volume anyway) for the whole disc. In the case of=20
"Rabies", you might also notice on the remastered version that the bass is=
=20
much "smoother" and "heavier". Very delicate art that one. :)=20
=20
To be completely honest, the "un-remastered" version of "Rabies" is now=20
much harder to find than the remastered version.=20
I know what you're saying after reading that: "I'd like to get a copy of=20
this if it actually is different. How do I go about ordering it direct?"=
=20
=20
Our mail order dept.'s email address is:=20
=20
mail....@nettwerk.com=20
=20
I hope that clears up a lot of stuff for some people.=20
=20
Armand S.=20
Internet Services=20
Nettwerk Productions=20
in...@nettwerk.com=20
=20
=3DAin=92t It Dead Yet?=3D=20
=20
-When was Ain't It Dead Yet? recorded? =20
=20
June 1, 1987 on the Cleanse, Fold, and Manipulate tour. =20
=20
-My copy of Ain't It Dead Yet? is all on one track, why? =20
=20
The CD versions of this album were pressed as one track in order to =20
preserve the live experience of the show as a whole. Apparently, though a =
=20
new version has just been released with each song on a different track. =20
(more to come) =20
=20
-My copy of Ain't It Dead Yet? says it includes God's Gift (Maggot), but it=
=20
doesn't...wtf? =20
=20
Someone apparently screwed up and confused One Time One Place with =20
God's Gift (Maggot). All versions of the album and video have One Time =20
One Place as the actual song present. A new version of the album has =20
appeared (see above question) with this error corrected. (More to come...) =
=20
=20
=3DToo Dark Park=3D=20
=20
-Hey, my Too Dark Park insert is different from my friend=92s. What=92s goi=
ng on?=20
=20
The original release of the TDP CD included a fold-out, color lyric sheet =
=20
with the entire cover painting intact in the background. Later on this was=
=20
switched to a stapled booklet, with the painting in black and white and =20
chopped up among the pages. The change may have been made to make =20
the lyrics easier to read.=20
=20
-Hey, my Spasmolytic is missing a song that my friend=92s copy has. What=92=
s going on?

Choralone (Live in Houston) was a bonus track on some CD and cassette copie=
s of the=20
Spasmolytic single/EP. Some list it on the cover and have it, some don=92t =
list it and have it,=20
and some don=92t have it period. It is not available on the vinyl version o=
f the release. More=20
info to come/requested on this.

=3DLast Rights=3D=20
=20
-Track 10 on Last Rights is missing...wtf? =20
=20
The track that was track 10, entitled Left Handshake was scrapped from the =
=20
album at the last minute due to the Timothy Leary samples throughout the =
=20
song having not having been cleared. Even though Leary himself approved of =
=20
the use of the samples, he found out later that he did not in fact own the =
rights =20
to them and the owner denied SP usage of the samples. The song was pulled =
=20
from the album. Interestingly (and frustratingly), some of the same samples=
=20
appear in the track Fistfuck on Nine Inch Nail's Fixed EP. =20
=20
-Where can I get this Left Hand Shake? =20
=20
The track can be found, in a variety of forms, as a bootleg. One version of=
=20
the song can be found on the original European version of Brap, put out by =
=20
the Off Beat Label. Offbeat went ahead and released it even though they =20
didn't legally have the right to do so. It also appears on the CD bootleg =
=20
Intolerance (this is not an endorsement btw...). Puppy supposedly planned =
=20
to release it as a 7" given out at shows but this never happened. You can =
=20
download a copy of this song and hear Last Rights the way it was meant to =
=20
be heard from the Skinny Puppy Unleashed web site =20
(http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc21870).=20
=20
-What's this story of Ogre having a convulsion during Knowhere? =20
=20
While Ogre and Rave were recording the vocals for Knowhere?, during a =20
period of Ogre's heavy drug addiction, Ogre took a shot of coke and had a =
=20
seizure. It is rumored that they were still recording as he went into the =
=20
convulsions, and that the recording actually appears on the final album. =
=20
=20
-On my copy of Last Rights the songs start 39 sec before the corresponding =
=20
track comes up. What gives? =20
=20
The original pressing of the Last Rights CD had an error which caused the =
=20
tracks to be shifted 39 seconds after the point the song starts. This resul=
ted in =20
the first 39 seconds of Love In Vein being cut off and 39 seconds of space =
=20
being added to the end of Download. You can hear the beginning of Love In =
=20
Vein by rewinding the CD past the 0 second point. This pressing error was =
=20
quickly replaced and all new copies of Last Rights do not have this problem=
. =20
Some still claim that the "error" was actually done on purpose so that you =
=20
had to listen to the album as a whole, much like Ain't It Dead Yet?. It is =
=20
doubtful, however, that they would intentionally cut off the first 39 secon=
ds =20
of a song. =20
=20
-My copy of Last Rights has all the right songs on the CD, but the on-disc =
art =20
only lists three songs, (Tormentor ext., Bark, and Nature's Revenge Dub). =
=20
Wtf? =20
=20
This seems to be a common phenomenon with copies of Last Rights ordered =
=20
from Columbia House. The music is correct, but the on-disc art is that of t=
he =20
Tormentor single. Try contacting Columbia House, Nettwerk, or Capitol about=
the =20
problem. =20
=20
-What happened to the Love In Vein single? =20
=20
It was scrapped, but some or all of the content planned to be released on i=
t can =20
be found on Brap (vol. 4). The version of Love In Vein on Brap is a (possib=
ly =20
unfinished) remix. =20
=20
-What was the tour for Last Rights like?

The Last Rights tour (of which the European leg was canceled due to Ogre=92=
s knee injury)=20
involved a variety of horrific imagery. cEvin appeared to play live percuss=
ion throughout=20
the show. The show involved Ogre interacting with a staticy backing film, b=
eing tortured=20
by his own guilt, spinning a horrific tree with masks, arms, and other mons=
terous things=20
hanging from it constantly over his head, occasionally pulling objects off =
and wearing=20
masks for certain songs. As the show progressed, Ogre continued to turn to =
a=20
Videodrome-inspired virtual reality/drug machine through which he entered s=
ome other=20
=93dimension=94. When Ogre entered the machine, his face appeared on the ba=
cking film,=20
giving us a glimpse into the other world in which he was being tortured as =
well. The=20
machine continued to destroy him, eventually splitting him into two persona=
lities, evident=20
by a =93second Ogre=94 growing out of his back. Finally he dons a =93guilt =
suit=94 and becomes his=20
own monster, complete with stitches, needles, and tubes sticking out of him=
.=20

=3DThe Process=3D=20
=20
=3DBrap=3D =20
=20
-What does Brap mean? =20
=20
According to the Brap liner notes Brap is basically the term cEvin and =20
co. use for =93getting high and recording=94. Alternatively its the name u=
sed for =20
their live improvisation and, more generally, the term for their creation o=
f =20
music in general. For this reason Brap is sometimes used to mean the =20
"genre" that all of their music falls under. The track on Remission titled =
=20
Brap is probably either an example of in-studio improv, or the track that =
=20
they took the name from. An improvisation (using Draining Faces as the =20
basis) appears on the live album Ain't It Dead Yet? under the name Brap. =
=20
=20
-What exactly are all of these tracks on Brap? Live? Demos? Wtf? =20
=20
Here it goes: =20
=20
Disk 1 (Back and Forth vol. 3) =20
=20
1. (multimedia)=20
2. Jackhammer: demo =20
3. Splasher: demo =20
4. Double Cross: demo =20
5. Yo Yo Scrape: demo, with vocals by cEvin! =20
6. Carry: demo =20
7. Guilty: demo =20
8. The Soul That Creates: demo, with vocals taken from My Voice Sounds Like=
=20
Shit =20
9. Brap: a live improvisation from Basel, Switzerland at Geigerzahler 1986 =
using =20
the track from Remission as the basis. The full show can be found as a boot=
leg =20
and on the bootleg CD Fractal Zoom. =20
10. Sparkless: demo =20
11. Dead Doll: demo of the track from Bites =20
12. Deadlines: demo of the track from Bites =20
13. Last Call: live version of from the 9/26/86 CBC Brave New Waves radio s=
how. =20
The full show is available as a bootleg. It happens to be damn good. =20
=20
Disk 2 (Back and Forth vol. 4) =20
=20
1. (multimedia)=20
2. Uranus Canceled: a different version of the track Knowhere? from Last =
=20
Rights =20
3. All Eyes: a live improvisation from the Too Dark Park tour. Part of this=
track =20
can be found, along with other improv, as part of Walking On Ice from =20
the Spasmolytic single. =20
4. Reclamation: live from Too Dark Park tour =20
5. Spasmolytic: possibly a live in-studio demo take, with vocals added late=
r =20
6. Grave Wisdom: a less finished version of the track. Also appears on the =
=20
Nettwerk Decadence boxed set as Grave Wisdom (alternate version) =20
7. Tin Omen: the first part of this track is live from the (crappy) CD boot=
leg =20
Heaven's Trash. The second part is a pro recorded live version. =20
8. God's Gift: live from Too Dark Park tour =20
9. Convulsion: live from Too Dark Park tour =20
10. Nature's Revenge: possibly an alternate studio version? =20
11. Love In Vein: remix from the planned, but unreleased, single =20
12. T.F.W.O.: live version from Too Dark Park tour =20
13. Choralone: live version from Too Dark Park tour =20
=20
-Why is the tracklist on Brap reversed? =20
=20
It was an attempt by Nettwerk to play on the Back and Forth concept. =20
Backwards and Forwards, get it? For the record, the tracklist for disk 1 =
=20
(vol.3) appears on the right side, while the tracklist for disk 2 (vol.4) a=
ppears =20
on the left. =20
=20
-What's with all these different versions of Brap? =20
=20
A month or two before Nettwerk released Brap with multimedia content, an =
=20
early version, without multimedia and with a version of Left Hand Shake, wa=
s =20
released on Offbeat in Europe. This is commonly referred to as "Euro-Brap".=
=20
After Brap was released by Nettwerk domestically, Offbeat rereleased Brap, =
=20
this time supposedly with a hologram cover, without Left Hand Shake and =
=20
with the multimedia content. This is commonly referred to as "Digi-Brap" =
=20
=20
-What's with this hole in the right side of the Brap digipak? Was there =
=20
supposed to be a booklet in there? =20
=20
Nopers. According to Nettwerk that was just a byproduct of the =20
manufacturing process. =20
=20
-I've heard there are secrets on the Brap CD-ROM, where? =20
=20
One secret can be found on disk 1 (vol. 3) in the TDP monster screen which =
=20
you start at. Zoom in as close as possible on the stars above the monster- =
=20
face's head. At the center of one of these stars your icon will change to a=
hand =20
and you can click on it, taking you to a hidden area. The clickable region =
is very =20
small so it make some trying to find it. =20
=20
Another "secret" can be found on disk 2 (vol. 4). Under certain conditions =
=20
you can click on the window in the room (even though your icon doesn't =20
change to a hand...) and discover a small secret. Or maybe its not supposed=
to =20
be secret? =20
=20
-Wait a minute, these dates on the Brap CD-ROM clips don=92t sound right...=
=20
=20
Some of the dates for the live clips on disc 2 (vol. 4) are surely incorrec=
t. In =20
addition, some of the clips use material from different shows edited =20
together. The =9184 K-9 performance is rumored to be footage from the very =
=20
first Puppy show ever. =20
=20
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----------------=20
-Miscellaneous Questions=20
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------=20
=20
-I heard Skinny Puppy were in a movie. Is this true?=20
=20
Yep. Ogre, cEvin, and Dwayne appear in a very brief cameo as a gang of =20
thugs early in the movie The Doom Generation. It is an extremely quick =20
scene and you can barely make out the band, if at all. During the filming o=
f =20
this scene cEvin fell (off a car) and broke his arm among other injuries.=
=20
=20
-I heard there=92s a song called Ode To Groovy. Where is it?

Ode To Groovy was a track released on the first volume of an animal rights =
benefit=20
compilation called In Defense Of Animals. While it is credited to Skinny Pu=
ppy, it is=20
actually just Ogre and Rave. A text piece by Ogre was also included with th=
e comp.

-I heard of a bootleg called Intolerance. What=92s up with it?=20
=20
Intolerance is a CD bootleg which is not, by any means,what it says it is. =
It is not the last =20
Puppy show as it claims. It is from a 6/18/92 Miami show. The audio is take=
n from a more =20
complete video bootleg of that show. Intolerance also has a bunch of extra =
tracks which, =20
while they claim to be unreleased, are stolen from commercially available r=
eleases. The =20
only other interesting things present are a studio version of Left Hand Sha=
ke (which was =20
made from a dub...) and some strange Charlie-esque rant before live part of=
the dic starts. =20
It is supposedly a limited edition of 2000, but it is not known if this is =
true. Some copies =20
included an embossed metal SP logo. I do not recommend buying this bootleg =
which =20
seems tailored to steal from the band. Instead, track down the full 6/18/92=
video and buy =20
the commercial releases. =20
=20
The track listing (as it actually appears):=20
-----------------------------------=20
1 Manson rant?=20
Live from 6/18/92 Miami:=20
-------------------------------=20
2 Tin Omen=20
3 Worlock=20
4 VX Gas Attack=20
5 Second Tooth=20
6 Left Hand Shake=20
7 Brap-Improv / Testure =20
------------------------------=20
Studio:=20
8 Left Hand Shake (studio)=20
9 Cage*+=20
10 Stairs and Flowers (Too Far Gone)*+=20
11 Tin Omen (Reload)*%=20
12 Spahn Dirge (Live)#=20
=20
* claims to be an unreleased version of the song, but it is in fact the ver=
sion I have listed...=20
+ from Chainsaw single/EP=20
% from Tin Omen single/EP=20
# from Rabies CD and Tin Omen single/EP =20
=20
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----------------=20
-The Videos-=20
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----------------=20
=20
-What official Puppy videos exist? =20
=20
In addition to the live video and album called Ain't It Dead Yet?, there ar=
e =20
promotional videos for Smothered Hope, Far Too Frail, Dig it, Stairs and =
=20
Flowers, Testure, Worlock, Spasmolytic, Killing Game, Candle, Curcible, =20
and Hardset Head. All of these videos except for Worlock and the Process =
=20
videos (Candle, Curcible, and Hardset Head) appear on the official Video =
=20
Compilation, which also includes Deep Down Trauma Hounds from the =20
Ain't It Dead Yet? video, and some very short audio-less clips from the =20
Last Rights tour. Clips of the videos also appear on the Brap CD-ROM. It =
=20
should be noted that two versions of Worlock and Testure exist, an X rated =
=20
and an R rated version. The version of Testure which appears on the =20
Nettwerk Compilation is the R rated version. Also, the version of =20
Spasmolytic which appears on the compilation omits the title screen and =20
credits which are available on bootleg versions. =20
=20
-Why isn't Worlock included on the Video Compilation? =20
=20
Here's the info straight from Nettwerk: =20
=20
WHY ISN'T WORLOCK INCLUDED ON THE SKINNY PUPPY VIDEO =20
COMPILATION? =20
=20
The video for "Worlock" was comprised of numerous (over 80 in fact) clips =
=20
that were cut out of horror films by various classification boards. It is =
=20
a non-stop gore-fest that was immediately banned by every video station =20
that had ever seen the video, as well as any border crossing guards =20
anywhere in the world. The video is considered pornographic for this =20
reason. =20
=20
That's the first reason it's not included on the video release. =20
=20
The second reason concerns the sheer mountain of legal paperwork that =20
would be required in order to get approval from every single director of =
=20
the over 50 movies that the clips were taken from. There is simply no way =
=20
for anybody to get a clearance to release this video in any form. Even if =
=20
we were able to get legal approval to use all the clips that are contained =
=20
in the video, we would be disallowed from ever shipping a copy anywhere in =
=20
the world due to the content. Complete catch-22. =20
=20
So that is why the video for "Worlock" doesn't appear on the Skinny Puppy =
=20
video compilation. It's been a 4-year battle in the attempt to get that =
=20
video released in some form. It just isn't possible to do. =20
=20
But the rest of the videos which do make an appearance are mostly =20
first-timers as far as anybody seeing them and a lot of the fans who are =
=20
quite familiar with the "Worlock" situation are still pretty happy to see =
=20
these videos being made available to the fans of the band. =20
=20
(thanks to Dead Shot for transcribing this)=20
=20
-What films are used in the Worlock video?=20
=20
Here is a shot-by-shot transcription of the video generously written by Kev=
in Lewis. A list =20
of just the movies appears below.=20
=20
The B&W shot of a guy reaching out to pull a lever -ERASERHEAD=20
Then there=92s another B&W clip of that guy -ERASERHEAD=20
The red lips in blue light talking -TENEBRAE=20
The clips of a masked man twitching about in a chair -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Then there is a real fast clip of an extreme close-up on a ravens eye -OPER=
A=20
The silhouette of a police man head -MANIAC COP=20
Lips again (blue lighting) -TENEBRAE=20
Bandaged head gets a scalpel in the eye -DEAD AND BURIED/?FACELESS?=20
Close up of part of the skull being removed exposing a slimy brain -DEATH=
=20
WARMED UP=20
Eyeball being poked out -THE BEYOND=20
Anatomical drawing on the optic orb -RE-ANIMATOR=20
Flesh ripping apart -FROM BEYOND=20
Fast clips of hallucinatory scene from -ALTERED STATES=20
Zit -DEMONS=20
Naked guy in white room in fetal position -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Hand getting stabbed w/ soldering iron -HENRY =20
Hallucinatory scenes (cross) from -ALTERED STATES=20
Outtakes from the video for STAIRS & FLOWERS =20
Smoke expanding and then reversing -RE-ANIMATOR=20
Fast clip of an inferno from -ALTERED STATES=20
CU of a girls eyes looking about (I don=92t know this one), but there is fo=
otage=20
super imposed over it of Peter Jackson (director) as Derek falling off a cl=
iff=20
in -BAD TASTE.=20
Shot of elevator descending down from -HELLRAISER II: HELLBOUND=20
TV smashed over a guys head from -HENRY (=93plug it in, Otis.=94)=20
Mouth opening with metal teeth -LUTHER THE GEEK=20
Repeating shot of spinning white padded walls -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Really fast clip of flames bursting center screen -ALTERED STATES=20
Repeating shot of knife rising -DEEP RED=20
Repeating shot of knife stabbing down -DEEP RED=20
Red liquid poured dumped into the sink -SUSPIRIA=20
Meat spinning -PARENTS=20
The guy getting his head cut in half by a power saw -INTRUDER=20
Letterboxed scene of a little girl (zombie now) getting shot in the head (c=
ut=20
well to the beat) is from THE BEYOND.=20
Letterboxed scene of girl caught in barbed wire -SUSPIRIA=20
Letterboxed scene bloody girl getting hung by a telephone wire -SUSPIRIA=20
Shot of a gloved hand grabbing on to a machete -BAD TASTE=20
Man getting stabbed in the neck/jaw by a large knife -OPERA=20
CU of knife blade in mans mouth -OPERA=20
Then that crazy guy shooting his shotgun, blowing up a lamp -DEATH WARMED U=
P=20
The silhouette of a man being ripped apart by like four others -RE-ANIMATOR=
=20
Meat -?PARENTS?=20
Flash snap shots of bloody bodies & a CU of a paranoid man -DEATH WARMED UP=
=20
Meat -?PARENTS?=20
Rip off poor saps head with the spine attached & bloody floor clip -BAD TAS=
TE=20
Dying girls hand slowly slide down -TENEBRAE=20
Light bulb breaking via razor blade -TENEBRAE=20
Video footage of an older man kissing a bound girl who shrugs to get away (=
this=20
shot replays like four times) -FROM BEYOND=20
The above clips inter cuts with the scene of the lips talking under blue=20
lighting, again -TENEBRAE=20
Blood on the Beatles (standees) car window -BAD TASTE=20
Hand cuffs being removed from bloody hands (broken thumbs) -PHENOMENA=20
Woman's hacked off arm spurts out blood and paints the walls red (groovy)=
=20
-TENEBRAE=20
Heart getting stabbed, letterboxed -SUSPIRIA=20
Thumbs being broken on bloody cuffed hands -PHENOMENA=20
Jennifer Connally drowning in a pool of mud and maggots -PHENOMENA=20
CU of rotting flesh in that pool of mud and maggots -PHENOMENA=20
CU of a drain -SUSPIRIA=20
Bandaged quivering hand -???FACELESS???=20
Guy being shoved into his white padded cell -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Quick clip of hallucinatory scene -ALTERED STATES=20
Shotgun being fired -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Womans face being smashed through glass -SUSPIRIA=20
Shotgun being fired -DEATH WARMED UP=20
CU of eye behind needles -OPERA=20
Neck being slit open -SUSPIRIA=20
Zoom into an open eye -SUSPIRIA=20
Insane man screaming through a gate -HELLRAISER II: HELLBOUND=20
Zoom in on a man sitting in the corner of a padded cell -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Clip of a comb (w/handle) grabbed off the carper & the comb handle stabbing=
=20
into Otis' eye & the bottle being smashed over Michael -HENRY=20
CU of a drain, again -SUSPIRIA=20
Metal teeth being filed -LUTHER THE GEEK=20
Meat being pushed through a meat grinder -PARENTS=20
CU of a womans eye as a tear streams down her cheek -HELLRAISER II: HELLBOU=
ND=20
Man in a straight jacket screaming with what looks like inverted color -DEA=
TH=20
WARMED UP=20
Mutant zit explodes on the neck -DEMONS=20
Zombie and all four grabbing out -RE-ANIMATOR=20
Aliens head getting cut in half via chainsaw -BAD TASTE=20
Screaming in that padded cell -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Woman getting scalped -DEMONS=20
Razor slashing upon a maggot infested chest -HELLRAISER II:=20
HELLBOUND=20
Guts plopping to the ground at the feet -BAD TASTE=20
Freaking out in that fucking padded cell -DEATH WARMED UP=20
Zoom out of an eye -HELLRAISER II: HELLBOUND=20
Hallucinatory scene (with the crucifix) -ALTERED STATES=20
The B&W shot of a guy reaching out (to pull a lever) -ERASERHEAD=20
=20
The films:=20
=20
Bad Taste=20
Maniac 2 (it was only a half hour promo for the film, the final film was ne=
ver=20
completed because Joe -maniac- Spinell died)=20
Death Warmed Up=20
Hellbound: Hellraiser II=20
Intruder=20
Luther The Geek=20
Eraserhead=20
Re-Animator=20
From=20Beyond=20
Parents=20
Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer=20
Altered States=20
Combat Shock=20
The Beyond=20
Phenomena=20
Tenebrae=20
Demons=20
Opera=20
Deep Red=20
Suspiria=20
=20
Another interesting point is that the sound during the =93Restricted/X=94 i=
ntro before the =20
video is a sample from the movie Videodrome=92s title shot. =20
=20
Special thanks to Kevin Lewis for this section.=20
=20
=20
-What are the Spasmolytic credits? =20
=20
Skinny Puppy: Ogre, cEvin Key, D. Rudolph Goettel=20
Directed by Jim Vanbebber=20
Produced by Gary Blair Smith=20
Co-Produced by Mark R.G. Yoshihara=20
Written by Kevin Ogilvie, Gary Blair Smith, Jim Vanbebber=20
Director of Photography: Danny Nowak=20
Production Designer: Al Benjamin=20
Special Make-Up Effects: Tim Gore=20
Editors: Jim Vanbebber, Kevin Ogilvie, Gary Blair Smith=20
On-line Editor: William J. Morrison=20
First Assistant Director: Gary Harvey=20
Special Effects: Al Benjamin, Ray Reedyk=20
Special Make Up Effects Assistant: Charlie Grant=20
Make-Up and Hair: David Jones=20
Wardrobe: Tracey Pincott=20
Property Master: Ray Reedyk=20
Art Department and Special Effects Assistant: Lionel Huppie=20
=93Chair Of No Cares=94 =20
=09Concept: Ogre=20
=09Design and Construction: Ray Reedyk=20
=93Stilt-Man=94=20
=09Concept: Ogre=20
=09Design and Construction: Robert Comer=20
Title Graphics and Art: Jim Cummins=20
Gaffer: Shawn Milstead=20
Key Grip: Sandy Hegyi=20
Focus Puller: Mark Zagar=20
Clapper Loader: Nick Watson=20
Camera Assistant: Mike Chisolm=20
Trainee Camera Assistant: Christina Kasperczyk=20
Castin: Sue Brouse=20
Craft Service: Darci John=20
Best Boy: Nat Chase=20
Studio Manager: Bruce Beaulac=20
Wardrobe Assistant: Greg Clow=20
Gregor=92s Costume Design: Nick Newcombe=20
Trainee Assitant Director: Vince Coates=20
Wrap Crew: Tom Benny, Ryan Monroe, Donald Riggan, Vince Coates, Kevin O=92L=
eary, =20
=09Mark Volsin, Mark Westhauer=20
Cast:=20
=09Gregor: Ogre=20
=09Minister: D. Rudolph Goettel=20
=09Postman: cEvin Key=20
=09Heroin: Shannon Keir=20
=09Stockdoc 1: Rave=20
=09Bride: Corrine Iles=20
=09Groom: Kevin Lesminster=20
=09Corporate Slug: Derek Peakman=20
=09Landlord: Dalton Fisher=20
=09Stockdoc 2: Greg Sykes=20
=09Stockdoc 3: Louise Jackson=20
Lighting, Grip Equipment, and Studio Supplied by William F. White=20
Camera Equipment Supplied by P.P.L. Camera Corporation=20
Filmstock Supplied by AFGA/ Western Imperial Magnetics Ltd., Kimberly Schne=
ider=20
Costumes and Wardrobes Supplied by S&M Costumes Inc.=20
Catering Provided by Peppermint Pate, Carol Simick=20
Insurance Provided by Sedgewick James, Bob Adams=20
Stock Processing and Cleaning Provided by Gastwon Film Labs Inc., Dave Hard=
en=20
Stock Transfer Provided by Gastown Post and Transfer=20
Monitors Provided by Granada Canada, Ray Stanton=20
Edited Facilities Provided by Lapost!, Larry Huber=20
Special Thanks To The Following:=20
=09Shane Lunny Productions=20
=09Blue Wave Productions=20
=09Brenda Collins=20
=09Anna=20
=09Kathy Benjamin=20
=09Curtis Petersen=20
Sincere Thanks to Chas. Balum and Chopper for Chopping Off Our Heads=20
=20
=20
-I just watched Far Too Frail...wtf? =20
=20
Apparently, after shooting the footage for Smothered Hope, the band decided=
=20
to do an intentionally bad video for Far Too Frail using the same footage. =
The =20
result is nothing less than hilarious. =20
=20
-What fan made videos exist? =20
=20
There are many videos made by fans, including Addiction, Deadlines (2 =20
versions), laHuman8, The Choke (more to come) There are also alternate =20
versions of the Official videos, probably done by fans, including Smothered=
=20
Hope and Dig It. The Deadlines fan-made video was, for some unknown =20
reason, included along with the official videos on the Brap CD-ROM. (Any =
=20
info for this section would be greatly appreciated)=20
=20
-What is this Too Dark Park backing video I hear about? =20
=20
The backing film used by the band for the Too Dark Park tour has been leake=
d =20
out as a video bootleg. The bootleg includes the entire backing film with t=
he =20
exception of Rash Reflection, along with the bands audio backing tape. The =
=20
video floating around for Rash Reflection is most probably the backing film=
=20
used for that song along with the album version of the song. Many of the fi=
lms =20
have been set to the album version of the corresponding song to make a "fan=
=20
video" for the song.=20
=20
-So is there a Last Rights backing video bootleg as well?=20
=20
Yep. Its not as common as the TDP video, though. A good chunk of the =20
footage is from the Killing Game video shoot. Also, the audio on this =20
bootleg is just the entire Last Rights album and the first four songs off o=
f =20
Too Dark Park, not live or backing tape material. =20
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=20
=3DSubconscious Communications=3D=20
=20
-What is Subconscious Communications?=20
=20
Subconscious Communications began as a record label initiated by Dwayne =20
in order to release his aDuck 12=94. After the breakup of Skinny Puppy, =20
cEvin and Dwayne revived it as a label to encompass all of their new =20
releases. Subconscious Communications is not a subdivision or imprint of =
=20
Nettwerk, Cleopatra, or any other label. It is a label which uses those and=
=20
other record labels for distribution. Subconscious exists as a studio as we=
ll.=20
=20
-What is Paradigm Shift? =20
=20
Paradigm Shift is a compilation of Subconscious Communications' projects =
=20
along with some other related tracks. It includes the tracks Power and Touc=
hed =20
from the original and out of print Subconscious 12" released by Dwayne's so=
lo =20
project, aDuck, and Philth. While Philth's track was called My Heart Has Be=
en =20
Touched By Christ on the original 12", the music was not changed for this =
=20
compilation on which it is just called Touched. All of the other material o=
n this =20
album is previously unreleased, including tracks by Download, Doubting =20
Thomas, The Tear Garden, Dead Voices On Air, Plateau, Skinny Puppy, Kone, =
=20
and aDuck. =20
=20
=3DDownload=3D=20
=20
-What is Download? =20
=20
Download is a project which grew out of cEvin and Dwayne=92s jam sessions =
=20
during the recording of the Process. These jam sessions involved friends =
=20
like DJ Philth and Mark Spybey. Download, named after the track on Last =20
Rights, is now cEvin's full time project. Two albums, two EP=92s, and a =20
Soundtrack have been released. The band lineup continues to morph, and =20
has included participation from Ken Marshall and Anthony Valcic (both =20
long time Puppy friends and engineers), Genesis P-Orridge, and Ryan =20
Moore (as a guest on the live tour). A new album, called simply III, and =
=20
two EPs, called Moth and Resilient, should be released sometime this =20
summer. =20
=20
-What is this Charlie's Family soundtrack I've heard about? =20
=20
Charlie's Family is an as of yet unreleased film directed by Puppy friend J=
im =20
VanBebber (who directed the Spasmolytic video). Download released a =20
soundtrack in a limited edition of 2000 to help finance the films release. =
The =20
soundtrack was only available on the bands '96 tour and through Nettwerk ma=
il =20
order. This soundtrack is planned to be re-released by Metropolis this summ=
er, =20
with the music remaining identical but the packaging changing to a digipak.=
=20
=20
-What is Chunkblower and where can I get the soundtrack? =20
=20
Chunkblower was a film by Jim Vanbebber which was never made. Only a =20
trailer (which can be seen, in part, on the Brap CD-ROM) was produced. =20
The project was scrapped when the horror movie market fell apart. cEvin and=
=20
Dwayne were to have recorded the soundtrack, but since the film was ever =
=20
made, the soundtrack was never released and likely never produced. One cool=
=20
aspect of the trailer is that it features Dwayne and Bill Leeb as the burni=
ng=20
victims. Dwayne is even referred to as Squelch (as in Squelch Songs). =20
=20
-I heard Download released a track on a CD with some magazine, is this true=
? =20
=20
Yes, they released a track called I Still Ate Her on a CD which came with i=
ssue =20
47 of the European magazine Future Music, which contained and interview =
=20
with cEvin. =20
=20
=3DaDuck=3D=20
=20
-What is aDuck? =20
=20
aDuck was Dwayne's solo project. aDuck released an out of print 12" called =
=20
Power (with a B-side by Philth) which is reprinted on Paradigm Shift (see =
=20
above). Another aDuck track, Burnout, appears on this compilation as well. =
An =20
aDuck track called Phenethylamine Backwash was also included on a =20
compilation produced by FLA's Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber. cEvin plans on =
=20
releasing some more of Dwayne's material in the future as a full aDuck =20
album. =20
=20
=3DDoubting Thomas=3D=20
=20
-What is Doubting Thomas? =20
=20
Doubting Thomas is a side project of cEvin and Dwayne. The music was =20
best described as =93soundtracks for movies that never existed=94. There wa=
s =20
an album (The Infidel) and companion single (Father Don't Cry) released =20
on WaxTrax!. The single is now out of print, but is tentatively scheduled =
=20
for re-release with new material on Metropolis this summer. There is =20
supposedly a new release, including unreleased old and more recent =20
material, on the way (this release may have been replaced with the Father =
=20
Don=92t Cry release..more to come). Two Doubting Thomas tracks appear =20
on the compilation Paradigm Shift. Also of note is that there is some other=
=20
band called Doubting Thomas with absolutely no relation to this project. =
=20
=20
=3DThe Tear Garden/The Legendary Pink Dots=3D=20
=20
-What is Skinny Puppy's relation to The Tear Garden? What about the =20
Legendary Pink Dots? =20
=20
The Tear Garden is a Side Project of Skinny Puppy and The Legendary Pink =
=20
Dots. It began when cEvin, a huge fan of the Dots, sent them a photo colla=
ge =20
of all the LPD releases he was able to find. They began corresponding, eve=
n =20
before SP was born, and eventually, Edward Ka-Spel (singer of LPD) toured =
=20
with Skinny Puppy, opening for the band with his solo performance. cEvin wa=
s =20
his sound engineer for this tour, and this resulted in the first Tear Garde=
n =20
sessions. These sessions (which involved just cEvin and Edward) gave birth =
to their =20
self-titled debut EP/cassette. One of the songs was a new version of the Sk=
inny =20
Puppy track Centre Bullet, this time with Edward on vocals. The band =20
reconvened in '87, this time with Dwayne, Rave, Lee Salford, and even Ogre =
=20
joining in, and recorded the album Tired Eyes Slowly Burning. After a long=
=20
hiatus the Tear Garden reformed, with the lineup of cEvin, Dwayne, Rave, Ry=
an =20
Moore, and the entire Pink Dots band, and recorded the album Last Man To Fl=
y =20
and the EP Sheila Liked the Rodeo. Ryan, who had been working with cEvin i=
n =20
Hilt, got along so well with the Pink Dots crew that he has been a member o=
f =20
LPD ever since. The band once again got together in late '95 and recorded T=
o =20
Be An Angel Blind, The Crippled Soul Divide. Unfortunately this album was =
=20
recorded after Dwayne's death. It featured cEvin, Anthony Valcic, all the =
Pink =20
Dots including new member Niels Van Hornblower, and a variety of guests. =
=20
It is rumored that cEvin and Edward are working on some new material =20
currently, and that there will be a few limited live shows soon. In additio=
n =20
to The Tear Garden, cEvin appears on the LPD releases 9 Lives To =20
Wonder and Chemical Playschool vol. 8 and 9 =20
=20
=3DHilt/The Flu/Lee Chubby King=3D=20
=20
-What is Hilt? The Flu? Lee Chubby King? =20
=20
Hilt is a punkish band involving cEvin, Dwayne, Al Nelson, Lee Salford, =20
Don Harrison, Rave, Ryan Moore, and even Ogre. cEvin and Al "Chubby" =20
Nelson were in a band together years ago called Illegal Youth (the name =
=20
was originally No Exit, but when another band popped up with that name, =20
they changed it). Al later became Puppy's live film man. Hilt released two =
=20
albums, two singles, and an EP. cEvin has said there's lots more Hilt =20
material that may one day be released. A new Hilt release called The Worst =
=20
Of... is tentatively planned. The Flu was an earlier band which grew into =
=20
Hilt, featuring at least cEvin and Al, and which only released a cassette =
=20
album in Sweden. Copies of this album are floating around as a bootleg. =20
Lee Chubby King was a little rap parody with cEvin, Al, and Lee Salford. =
=20
The name was a play on the band members names. "Lee" Salford, Al =20
"Chubby" Nelson, and cEvin a.k.a. "Kenny King". Lee Chubby King =20
released a 12" single of the tracks Yo Pusface and Yo Pusdub. =20
=20
=3DPlateau=3D=20
=20
-What is Plateau? =20
=20
Plateau is a new project featuring Philth, cEvin, and Anthony Valcic. The =
=20
concept for this band was apparently born out of the '96 Download tour of =
=20
Europe, which included stop overs in the hash bars of lovely Amsterdam. =20
An album called Music For Grassbars was recently released and a double =20
A-side single for the songs Dutch Flowers and White Widow will be =20
released shortly (first on vinyl, then as a remix CD EP). Plateau's debut =
=20
track, Grasshopper, appears on the Subconscious Compilation Paradigm =20
Shift. More Plateau is expected in the future.=20
=20
=3DcEvin Key solo=3D=20
=20
-I heard cEvin is releasing solo material. Is this true?=20
=20
Yep. cEvin is releasing an album called Music Fur Cats, consisting of =20
material that his cats enjoy. It will be released on Metropolis later this =
year. =20
=20
=3DCyberaktif /Front Line Assembly=3D=20
=20
-What is Skinny Puppy's relation to Cyberaktif and Front Line Assembly? =20
=20
Bill Leeb of FLA was a member of Skinny Puppy (under the name Wilhelm =20
Schroder), playing bass synth predominantly, during the Bites/Mind:TPI eras=
=20
and called it quits right before they went on tour for Mind:TPI. Dwayne the=
n =20
replaced him. Bill, cEvin and Dwayne joined forces a few years later and pu=
t out =20
some records under the name 'Cyberaktif', including an album (Tenebrae Visi=
on) =20
and two singles (Nothing Stays and Temper), all released on WaxTrax! Blixa =
=20
Bargel of Einstuerzende Neubauten also participated in Cyberaktif. Accordin=
g =20
to both Leeb and cEvin, this project will never record another release. =20
=20
=3DA Chud Convention=3D=20
=20
-What is A Chud Convention? =20
=20
A Chud Convention was a one-off project that involved Skinny Puppy =20
(before Dwayne joined) and a;GRUMH. It basically involved the two bands =
=20
screwing around in the studio while =93coming down off a weird high.=94 A =
=20
12" of these sessions was released, called Sorrow, containing two tracks, =
=20
Patient Sorrow and Silent Sorrow. Puppy, and possibly a;GRUMH as well, =20
didn't want to release this due to its oddball nature and questionable soun=
d =20
quality, so the release was probably done by a third party. =20
=20
=3DHell O=92 Deth Day=3D=20
=20
-What is Hell O' Deth Day? =20
=20
Hell O' Deth Day was another one off project that Ogre and cEvin created in=
=20
order to open for Chris and Cosey during the early days of Skinny Puppy. So=
me =20
of the material for this project was released on the Remission and Bites al=
bums, =20
including tracks like Film, Love, Falling, Social Deception, and Centre Bul=
let. =20
cEvin says that there is a bunch of material from these sessions which rema=
ins =20
unreleased. Because this style was popular in Europe at the time, many of t=
hese =20
tracks were used on the European versions of Bites, resulting in many diffe=
rent =20
versions of the album with many different tracks. All the tracks from all t=
he =20
different versions of Bites, with the one exception of Cage, are compiled o=
n the =20
'93 CD release of Bites. =20
=20
=3DcEvin=92s Pre-Puppy Work=3D=20
=20
-What is Skinny Puppy's relation to Images In Vogue? =20
=20
Images In Vogue was a fairly big Canadian synth-pop band in the early '80s.=
cEvin was =20
drummer for the band, and some of their released material includes him (und=
er his real =20
name Kevin Crompton). The band also included Glen Nelson (brother of Al Nel=
son, see =20
question on Hilt), Joe Vizvary, Gary Smith (who later became a film produce=
r who =20
worked with Jim Vanbebber, see question on Charlie's Family and Chunkblower=
), Don =20
Gordan (who later left and formed the band Numb), and Dale Martindale. As t=
he band =20
progressed, cEvin became increasingly disgusted with being in a pop band. T=
his lead to his =20
formation of a project which was the complete anti-thesis of pop. This proj=
ect eventually =20
became Skinny Puppy. On the day of the release of Bites, cEvin quit Images =
In Vogue and =20
Puppy became his full time project. =20
=20
-What was The Fuck Brothers?=20
=20
Supposedly, the Fuck Brothers was cEvin=92s first band. When he was 13, his=
=20
parents forced to have get a haircut, which ended up horrendous. cEvin =20
rebelled by formed the Fuck Brothers with his friend, Dick Hardy, and then =
=20
recorded an =93album=94 the same day on eight-track tape. They recorded a =
=20
second album =93Live at Istanbul=94 (inserting crowd noise between songs) =
=20
over a Tangerine Dream eight-track. Someone stole the tape, apparently =20
thinking they were getting Tangerine Dream. I, personally, refuse to believ=
e =20
that anyone named Dick Hardy really exists and thus question the whole =20
story. I mean, if your name was Richard Hardy would you call yourself =20
Dick? Dick Hardy? But I digress... =20
=20
=3DMark Spybey/DeadVoices On Air=3D=20
=20
-What is Skinny Puppy's relation to Mark Spybey and Dead Voices On Air? =20
=20
Mark Spybey's solo project, Dead Voices On Air, featured cEvin as a guest =
=20
from time to time. Mark Spybey was also a member of Download, but left the =
=20
band recently and is not involved with their new album. cEvin participated =
in =20
some of DVOA's live shows during which they played some Download =20
material. =20
=20
=3DMinistry/Revolting Cocks/PTP=3D=20
=20
-What is Skinny Puppy's relation to Ministry, Revolting Cocks, and PTP? =20
=20
Al Jourgensen of Ministry co-produced and performed on the Rabies album, =
=20
and Ogre did backing vocals and some writing on the Ministry album 'The =
=20
Mind is a terrible thing to taste'. He also toured with Ministry a number o=
f =20
times and appears in the live video and album In Case You Didn't Feel Like =
=20
Showing Up. When Ogre was on tour with them, Ministry often performed =20
the Skinny Puppy track Smothered Hope. One version of this appears as the =
=20
b-side to Ministry's Burning Inside 12". According to cEvin, Jourgensen =
=20
wanted Ogre to be a permanent vocalist for his Revolting Cocks project at =
=20
one point. Due to Ogre and Al's "falling out" Ogre sang only on a few trac=
ks. =20
The first incarnation of Ogre's project W.E.L.T. involved Al and Ogre worki=
ng =20
together as a duo. This lineup fell apart, but one track from this era, cal=
led =20
Noreen, is floating around in bootleg form. This track was later used by Al=
as =20
the basis for the Ministry song The Fall. Interestingly enough Ogre and Al=
=20
traded tattoos, Ogre getting a RevCo symbol and Al a W.E.L.T. symbol. Al's =
=20
project called PTP is also rumored to have recorded a track with Ogre on =
=20
vocals. It was called Show Me Your Spine and is used in the movie Robocop =
=20
but was never released (on a soundtrack or otherwise). The only PTP music =
=20
that was released, the single Rubber Glove Seduction, does not feature Ogre=
. =20
Ogre doesn't remember taking any part in this project at all, but admits th=
at the =20
period was a drug haze so, who knows? =20
=20
=3DMutual Mortuary=3D=20
=20
-What is Mutual Mortuary? =20
=20
Mutual Mortuary was a collaboration between Ogre and Bill Leeb, back when =
=20
he was still a member of Puppy. Its not known exactly who did what, Leeb =
=20
claiming he did it all except the vocals, provided by Ogre, and Ogre claimi=
ng =20
that he did just about everything for Leeb. The project was unfinished, wit=
h only =20
two tracks having vocals, when Leeb sent it off to a European record label.=
The =20
project was rejected, but the label used the two songs with vocals on their=
=20
compilation Insane Music For Insane People. According to Ogre, Leeb kept al=
l =20
the money from the project, resulting in Ogre plastering posters all over =
=20
Vancouver with the slogan W.E.L.T. : Wilhelm Eats Lunch Today. The two =20
published tracks are findable as bootlegs. =20
=20
=3DW.E.L.T.=3D=20
=20
-What is W.E.L.T.? =20
=20
W.E.L.T is a long running name Ogre has used for a variety of projects, non=
e of =20
which have ever been released. The name originated as Ogre's reaction to =
=20
Mutual Mortuary (see above). Later Ogre and Al Jourgensen adopted it as the=
ir =20
project together, this time referring to it as When Everyone Learns the Tru=
th. =20
When Ogre and Al had a falling out, this project disintegrated. One track =
from =20
these sessions called Noreen appeared as a bootleg, though. Al later revamp=
ed =20
this track and used it as Ministry's The Fall. Ogre later revived W.E.L.T. =
as a =20
project with Raven, from Killing Joke. This lineup also fell apart when Rav=
en =20
went and got a publishing deal based upon what was then just a verbal =20
agreement. Raven apparently wanted Ogre to do some vocals on already =20
finished music, which Ogre decided against. Most recently, W.E.L.T. became =
=20
Ogre's post-Skinny Puppy project with Mark Walk. An album was =20
supposedly completed but never appeared, reportedly due to legal troubles. =
(see above =20
question on Ogre)=20
=20
=20
-I heard Ogre did the soundtrack to the Descent 2 computer game, is this tr=
ue? =20
=20
Yes, at least partially. One source says that Ogre and Mark Walk did all of=
=20
the tracks except for track 9, which was done by Type O Negative. Other sou=
rces say =20
Ogre and Mark Walk only did 2 tracks. There is quite a bit of conflicting i=
nfo on this =20
soundtrack. It should also be noted that this soundtrack only appears on th=
e CD version of =20
Descent 2. The floppy disk and downloadable demo versions feature a MIDI se=
quence =20
soundtrack not involving Ogre. Also, a new version of the game has appeared=
claiming on =20
the packaging "all new soundtrack" and the soundtrack to the Playstation ve=
rsion is =20
supposedly different. Any definitive info on any of these releases would be=
greatly =20
appreciated. =20
=20
-I saw some band named Welt's album called Better Days. Is this Ogre's =20
project? =20
=20
No. This is a completely unrelated band. =20
=20
=3DPigface=3D=20
=20
-What are Skinny Puppy's relations to Pigface? =20
=20
Pigface is a sort of supergroup with a rotating lineup involving just about=
=20
everyone and their brother. Ogre has been a consistent contributor to =20
Pigface, doing vocals and touring with them. Pigface's "main guy" is Martin=
=20
Atkins who, being a friend of Ogre, was brought in to produce The Process =
=20
after Roli Mossiman (sp?) was kicked out. cEvin and Dwayne did not get =20
along with Martin and eventually he was axed as well. It was through =20
Atkins that Ogre met Mark Walk, with whom he is/was working on =20
W.E.L.T. Dwayne also supposedly contributed to Pigface at one time or =20
another, but it is not known how. =20
=20
=3DRitalin=3D=20
=20
-What is Ritalin?=20
=20
Ritalin is a new project of Ogre and Martin Atkins being recorded this summ=
er. Its =20
supposedly very different from most of their previous work but with similar=
ities to the =20
Pigface track Insemination.=20
=20
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=93Looped a flaw rotates forever...unresolved=94 =20
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