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Question about "Maika Piya Bulaave" from "Sur Sangam"

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Sanjeev Ramabhadran

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:12:41 PM11/21/09
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RMIMers,

This is of course the parallel to "Saamaja Vara Gamana" in the
original "Shankarabharanam", the "guy's-family-meets-the-girl" scene
where the girl shows off her singing skills but begins daydreaming
about things romantic, etc., and finally gets distracted into singing
a wrong note and gets chewed out by her musician father.

Problem is, in the Telugu original, both the wrong note and the
subsequent yelling are distinctly present/audible. In my copy of the
Hindi song the yelling is there, but after having replayed the end
several times, I still don't hear Lata sing the forbidden note
(supposed to be Shuddh Re IIRC, outside the strict confines of the
Raga Kalavati). What gives?

Sanjeev

UVR

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:22:31 PM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 12:12 pm, Sanjeev Ramabhadran

I think it's your copy at fault (some over enthusiastic audio editor
to blame?). Check the Smashits copy of the song, for example. The
Shuddh Re is very much there.

-UVR.

Balaji Murthy

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Nov 21, 2009, 3:28:25 PM11/21/09
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Are you sure? When we watched it I distinctly recall remarking about the
sloppiness of the composer upon hearing the rishabh, and subsequently
realizing that it wasn't sloppiness but intentional.

- Balaji

vijay...@my-deja.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:15:25 PM11/22/09
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So much so, that it sounds improbable and it is
almost as if two different songs have been spliced
together.
My recollection is that the lapse in the Telugu
original is more "natural"

Vijay

UVR

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:56:49 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 10:15 am, "vijaykum...@my-deja.com" <vijaykum...@my-

Personal opinion, but I don't find anything more unnatural about the
maika piya bulave Shuddh Re than the samajavara gamana Rishabham. The
lapse in both songs is equally sudden, IMO.

In fact, if anything, the maika piya Re is probably MORE natural,
because it almost sounds like she suddenly forgot she was singing
Kalavati and descended into janasammohini :) OTOH, there's no CCM
raga with R one could descend similarly into from Hindolam.

-UVR.

UVR

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:58:24 PM11/22/09
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In case you haven't found the song yet, it's here:
http://tinyurl.com/maika-piya-with-shuddh-re

-UVR.

Sanjeev Ramabhadran

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:07:31 PM11/22/09
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> -UVR.-

Agree - the Re is a bit less of a departure for Kalavati IMO. Thanks
to all for the clarifications!

Sanjeev

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