RMIM Puraskaar 2006 - Results (Part 1)
Vinay
Presented, without further ado, are the RMIM Puraskaar for 2006. The
details are also available on the Puraskaar web site at
http://awards.giitaayan.com/2006/
Album of the Year
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* Omkara
Vishal Bhardwaj, Gulzar
Song of the Year
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* na Gilaaf ... bii.Dii jala_i le (Omkara)
Sunidhi Chauhaan, Sukhwinder Singh
Vishal Bhardwaj
Gulzar
Lyricist of the Year
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* Prasoon Joshi
for Rang De Basanti, Fanaa
Music Director of the Year
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* Vishal Bhardwaj
for Omkara
Female Singer of the Year
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* Sunidhi Chauhan
Male Singer of the Year
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* Shafqat Amanat Ali
Best Composed and Arranged Song
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* ruu-ba-ruu (Rang De Basanti)
by A R Rahman
Best Written Song
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* naiNaa Thag le.nge (Omkara)
by Gulzar
Best Sung Song
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It's a tie between
* bii.Dii jala_i le (Omkara)
by Sunidhi Chauhan, Sukhwinder Singh
and
* naiNaa Thag le.nge (Omkara)
by Rahat Fateh Ali Khan
RMIM Sammaan
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RMIM's stamp of approval for Hall of Fame
* Omkara (Vishal Bhardwaj, Gulzar)
* Rang De Basanti (A R Rahman, Prasoon Joshi)
Jury members (in alphabetical order) were Ashok Dhareshwar, Neha
Desai, Pavan Jha, Satish Kalra, Hemlata Khemani, Megha Murthy, Sanjeev
Ramabhadran, U V Ravindra, Shalini Razdan, Karthik Srinivasan, and
George Thomas.
List of top albums and songs is coming up in another post. It can also
be seen at http://awards.giitaayan.com/2006/
Thanks to the voters and everyone else who participated in the
process. From the beta testers to the jury members everyone played
their part wonderfully to make this first effort smooth, successful
and satisfying.
Vinay
Ketan
>
>The wait is over. The RMIMers and the jury have given their verdict.
>Presented, without further ado, are the RMIM Puraskaar for 2006. The
>details are also available on the Puraskaar web site at
>http://awards.giitaayan.com/2006/
< Results deleted >
>Jury members (in alphabetical order) were Ashok Dhareshwar, Neha
>Desai, Pavan Jha, Satish Kalra, Hemlata Khemani, Megha Murthy, Sanjeev
>Ramabhadran, U V Ravindra, Shalini Razdan, Karthik Srinivasan, and
>George Thomas.
Ok so I am a bit confused. What role did the jury members play and what exact
action/task did they carry out that us-- the non-jury members didn't, when we
voted?
On another note, since this is the first year of the awards, it might not be
such a bad idea to have the jury members write in on what their thinking was
when they were evaluating/ranking songs/lyrics/music etc. It would serve as a
framework and training manual for other jury members in the future, when we hit
the crunch years of the 50s--70s. After all in any legal case, the jury is given
explicit instructions on what they should evaluate, what is relevant and what
they should NOT consider in deciding the verdict. Once the verdict is read, the
jury can and often do reveal what their thinking was in deciding the verdict.
The argument cannot be that some of these jury members might be called on to
serve again, since we don't know till the results are revealed as to who the
jury members are.
However, I know this is about music and not about the people involved, so if the
jury members do not wish to reveal their thinking in public, they could submit
their thoughts to Vinay who could then scrub off anything that might identify
them (names, gender etc) and post their comments on RMIM, as Jury # 1 said this,
Jury # 2 said that etc etc.
My objective here is simply to have some transparency that could be a guide for
someone in the future and for that reason I feel it is important to debate the
rules in public too. Having said that, I would prefer that people debate the
merits of posting the jury's thinking on here before the jury actually writes on
here.
Ketan
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> In article <1174527910.010322.134...@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Vinay says...
For starters, without getting into the blow-by-blow...I personally was
engaged by the Omkara soundtrack and not-even-lukewarm about Rang De
Basanti.
Sanjeev
Pramod
Vinay schrieb:
Great Work!! Nice to see such passion!
Keep it up!
Pramod
UVR
What Sanjeev said, about Omkara, which was, to me, the only _complete_
soundtrack of the year. By 'soundtrack', I refer to not only the
tunes, lyrics
and singing of the songs, but also their overall orchestration and
musical
arrangement.
I was a bit surprised myself to see RDB sharing the limelight with
Omkara
for the RMIM Sammaan, but who knows how that happened :)
(IMO, Omkara also had a better background score than any of the other
films, but that wasn't one of the things the jury was allowed to
factor in
[rightly so].)
-UVR.
Vinay
And I thought I would get some break after a hectic month :).
But this is something I should explain now as it's not so obvious and
some other people are curious too.
RMIM Sammaan looks to three criteria for eligibility. All should be
met.
1. 2/3rd of voters should select the album in their list.
2. They should rank the album 7 (on a scale of 10) or higher, on
average.
3. The jury should rank the album higher than a certain score - a
constant value. (Explaining this score might need more time and energy
than I have right now. May be later. In essence you can think of this
as the quality temperature of the album derived from its songs'
ratings).
These ranking/score values are supposed to remain constant for
subsequent years ensuring the consistency across the years.
It also means that for a certain year there may be more than one album
eligible for the award (as in this case). At the same time, there may
be years when none of the albums get the sammaan.
Vinay
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> (IMO, Omkara also had a better background score than any of the other
> films, but that wasn't one of the things the jury was allowed to
> factor in
> [rightly so].)
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Pavan Jha
> > engaged by the Omkara soundtrack and not-even-lukewarm about Rang De
> > Basanti.
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> > Sanjeev
> I was a bit surprised myself to see RDB sharing the limelight with
> Omkara
> for the RMIM Sammaan, but who knows how that happened :)
>
> (IMO, Omkara also had a better background score than any of the other
> films, but that wasn't one of the things the jury was allowed to
> factor in
> [rightly so].)
>
> -UVR.
Well my vote for the Song of the Year was Ruu.Ba.Ruu.. beautifully
penned by Prasoon Joshi and the composition is still fresh to my ears
even after regular listening of more than a year.. and one factor that
I always considered to judge a film song is how honest the song is to
the Screenplay and the characters. and Ruu.ba.ruu has been used
brilliantly in the film (despite an unusual climax placement). It
setsup the climax with "Dhuaan chhanta khula gagan mera, nayi dagar
naya safar mera" and compliments the on screen happenings.. Check out
the lines "wo loha tha, pighal gaya" and watch Atul Kulkarni (playing
a staunch hindu) hugging Kunal Kapur.. no overdoing and conveying a
lot of things on screen with just one good line..
On the contrary my other favorite "Naina thug lenge" is ofc
beautifully penned yet I believe vishal couldn't make good use of it
in the script and found it misplaced in the film.
Pavan
UVR
It's my understanding that picturization, visuals, appositeness
of the song's placement in the film and other such factors were,
as far as I can tell, to be considered 'orthogonal' to this process.
My understanding was that the songs and albums were to be
ranked based purely on musical and audio factors.
That said, I cannot share your enthusiasm about roo-ba-roo.
It *is* a very good song. I really like the simplicity of its
orchestration with the delectable occasional rhythmic
complexity thrown in. It, however, did not strike me as the
best song of the year. One of the things I was put off by
in this song was Prasoon Joshi's inept attempt to reuse a
metaphor he had earlier used much more "ept"ly in an
older song. The line in [ruu ba ruu] where he says,
"aa.Ndhiyo.n se jhaga.D rahii hai lau merii" is a lift from
his own earlier song "jeene ke ishaare (mil gaye)" sung
by Shankar Mahadevan from the film Phir Milenge (MDs
SEL). For a full transcript of 'jeene ke ishaare' see,
http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/giitaayan/cisb/20777.isb
and you'll hopefully see why I think the reuse of that
particular image in 'roo ba roo' didn't quite cut it.
-UVR.
Shalini
"UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174657605....@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Actually I am surprised at even Omkara being selected for the RMIM Sammaan.
Don't get me wrong, I think Omkara is a solid soundtrack and musically the
best of the lot from last year, but it doesn't make any "all-time greats"
list for me. As for RDB, I enjoyed the songs while actually listening to
them, but they didn't really fire my imagination and linger in my memory.
Fanaa was the biggest disappointment - I found the score rather nondescript.
Anyway, I quite enjoyed the entire process of "diagramming" a song and
rating it on its individual elements.
Now a question for Vinay: Perhaps I am the only one thus confused, but
what is the difference between "Best Female Singer" and "Best Sung Song?":-)
Shalini
> -UVR.
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Vinay
> "UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Now a question for Vinay: Perhaps I am the only one thus confused, but
> what is the difference between "Best Female Singer" and "Best Sung Song?":-)
>
There was no such award as "Best Female Singer", but I am sure you
meant the "Female Singer of the Year" award. The difference is this:
"Female Singer of the Year" awards for quality contributions
*throughout the year*. The same is true for other "of the year" awards
like MD, Lyricist, Male Singer, based on jury's evaluation and voter's
selections.
OTOH, the "Best Sung Song" award (and Best composed, Best written song
award for that matter) was awarded to *one* particular song, based
purely on jury's evaluation.
Vinay
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