Abhi To Main Jawaan Huun (#509)
Hrishi Dixit
#509
Song: tera khayaal dil se mitaaya nahiin abhi
bedard maine tujhko bhulaaya nahiin abhi
Film: Doraaha (1952)
Singer: Talat Mahmood
Music: Anil Biswas
Lyrics: Josh Malihabadi
*ing: Nalini Jaywant, Shekhar
A specimen from a genre that Talat positively excelled at - the sad
wafters. This is a beautiful drawn-out melody from the master composer
who has given Talat some of his loveliest songs which notched varying
degrees of popularity starting with ARZOO's classic 'ae dil mujhe aisi
jagah le chal'. Despite the atrocious quality of the recording I have
(as will be evident from the clip below, I apologize for that), the
song's haunting beauty shines through gloriously in Talat's trademark
soulful rendition. I often used to to confuse this with another Talat
melody with a substantially overlapping mukhada - 'tera khayaal dil ko
sataaye to karen', a Pandit Govindram composition from NAQAAB (1955).
Lata's 'loota hai zamaane ne, qismat ne mitaaya hai' and Talat's
'muhabbat tark ki maine, garebaan sii liya maine' are probably the more
well-known songs from this precious Anilda soundtrack.
..Hrishi
Audio clip: http://ATMJH.tripod.com/509.rm
ATMJH Archival Site: http://ATMJH.tripod.com/
UVR
> #509
>
> Song: tera khayaal dil se mitaaya nahiin abhi
> bedard maine tujhko bhulaaya nahiin abhi
Hmm ... interesting. Here's another instance of an established
Urdu poet modifying an existing poem in order to make it 'easy
to understand' for the filmi crowd. Nita didn't mention this
when she posted this song on the GEETanjali series, but the song
is adapted from a (rather famous) Josh Malihabadi nazm that goes
'naqsh-e-Kayaal dil se miTaayaa nahii.n hanoz'. "hanoz" is a
Persian word that means 'yet, still', the same as 'abhii' in
this song. For those who are interested in this kind of thing,
the originals of the two modified couplets are given below. The
song is in the C-ISB @
http://www.ghazalarchive.com/isb/ASCII/2222.isb
--
*naqsh-e-Kayaal* dil se miTaayaa nahii.n hanoz
bedard mai.n_ne tujhako bhulaayaa nahii.n hanoz
[naqsh-e-Kayaal --> teraa Kayaal]
*maharaab-e-jaa.N me.n* tuune jalaayaa thaa Kud jise
siine kaa vo chiraaG bujhaayaa nahii.n hanoz
[*maharaab-e-jaa.N me.n* --> kal muskuraake]
--
-UVR.
Hrishi Dixit
UVR wrote:
>
> Hrishi Dixit <hdi...@cysive.com> wrote in message news:<3CE332E0...@cysive.com>...
> > #509
> >
> > Song: tera khayaal dil se mitaaya nahiin abhi
> > bedard maine tujhko bhulaaya nahiin abhi
>
> Hmm ... interesting. Here's another instance of an established
> Urdu poet modifying an existing poem in order to make it 'easy
> to understand' for the filmi crowd. Nita didn't mention this
> when she posted this song on the GEETanjali series, but the song
> is adapted from a (rather famous) Josh Malihabadi nazm that goes
> 'naqsh-e-Kayaal dil se miTaayaa nahii.n hanoz'. "hanoz" is a
> Persian word that means 'yet, still', the same as 'abhii' in
> this song. For those who are interested in this kind of thing,
> the originals of the two modified couplets are given below. The
> song is in the C-ISB @
> http://www.ghazalarchive.com/isb/ASCII/2222.isb
>
It would be interesting to compile a list of such
simplifications-for-the-lesser-mortals. The only other one I can think
of is the one by Shakeel Badayuni:
ye aish\-o\-tarab ke matavaale
bekaar kii baate.n karate hai.n
paayal ke Gamo.n kaa ilm nahii.n
jhanakaar kii baate.n karate hai.n
which of course got artfully reshaped into Mughal-e-Azam's 'ai ishq ye
sab duniyaavaale'. The reshaping is actually more evident in the
antaraas of this song.
Any more of these?
..Hrishi
UVR
Sure. Simply to prove to you that you know more of these
than you are letting yourself admit ;-), remember that
Sahir Ludhiyanvi's "sanaa_Kvaan-e-taqadiis-e-mashriq
kahaa.N hai.n" became "jinhe.N naaz hai hind par vo
kahaa.N hai.n"; Sahir also simplified some of the words
of "chalo ik baar phir se ajanabii ban jaaye.n ham dono.n"
and "ta.ng aa chuke hai.n kash_ma_kash-e-zindagii se ham".
I'm sure other nettors will add more songs. Actually,
I think this topic has been discussed before on RMIM,
don't you?
-UVR.
vsr...@hclinfinet.com
Sahir's "Sana khwan-e-tasdeeq-e-mashriq kahaa.n hai.n" became "jinhe.n
naaz hai hind pe wo kahaa.n hai.n" in Pyaasa.
original line literally means "poorab (india) ki mahaanata ke gun gaane
waale kahaa.n hai.n".
Sahir's "kabhi kabhi mere dil me.n", not the song, but the prose
recitation by Amitabh, also had several difficult words changed to
simpler ones.
Ba.nkim chandra chattopadhyaaya's "vande mataram" was translated as "ma
tujhe salaam" in ARR's non-film cassette by same name.
-Rawat
Afzal A. Khan
vsr...@hclinfinet.com wrote:
>
> Hrishi Dixit wrote:
> >
> > UVR wrote:
> > > > Song: tera khayaal dil se mitaaya nahiin abhi
> > > > bedard maine tujhko bhulaaya nahiin abhi
> > >
> > > Hmm ... interesting. Here's another instance of an established
> > > Urdu poet modifying an existing poem in order to make it 'easy
> > > to understand' for the filmi crowd.
> > >
> >
> > It would be interesting to compile a list of such
> > simplifications-for-the-lesser-mortals.
>
> Sahir's "Sana khwan-e-tasdeeq-e-mashriq kahaa.n hai.n" became "jinhe.n
> naaz hai hind pe wo kahaa.n hai.n" in Pyaasa.
>
> original line literally means "poorab (india) ki mahaanata ke gun gaane
> waale kahaa.n hai.n".
Actually. the word is "taqdees" meaning pristine purity
and not "tasdeeq" which is roughly equivalent to
verification. And the hindi equivalent cannot be
"mahaanta" which means greatness. Also, "mashriq"
refers to "East" in a general sense, not necessarily
restricted to India alone.
> Ba.nkim chandra chattopadhyaaya's "vande mataram" was translated as "ma
> tujhe salaam" in ARR's non-film cassette by same name.
I don't know if the change was effected to make the
words readily understandable to the general public.
Even those who raised a hue and cry over this issue
in the early part of the 20th century must have
understood what the words meant --- otherwise
there might not have been any opposition at all !!
Afzal
> -Rawat
Amit Malhotra
> > tujhe salaam" in ARR's non-film cassette by same name.
>
>
starts with:
"assii nahii.n sau din duniyaa ghuumaa mai.n
nahii.n kahii.n tere jaisaa koii nahii.n hai [...]"
this is not a "translation" of "Vande Maatram" (thats only if you were
referring to this song from the album Maa Tujhe Salaam)
Amit
vsr...@hclinfinet.com
I did not mention that entire song was translated.
vande mataram translates in urdu as maa tujhe salaam.
-rawat
Amit Malhotra
<vsr...@HCLInfinet.com> wrote in message
news:3CE9041D...@HCLInfinet.com...
ok lets say the "maa tujhe salaam" is a translation, AFAICR, there is NO
other line that should be a translation of the original Vande-Maatram, and
if it's only the title u r talking about, then why do you consider that a
translation?
Amit
>
> -rawat
vsr...@hclinfinet.com
In most of the other songs mentioned in this thread, one line, or just a
few words were translated.
-rawat
vsr...@hclinfinet.com
In most of the other songs mentioned in this thread, one line, or just a