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The early (PWL) career of Erykah Badu.

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jer...@cafe80s.demon.co.uk

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In the early 90s, Erykah Badu was called ERIK and was singed to the
UK label PWL (Pete Waterman Limited). She made several great records
produced by Stock & Waterman (of Stock/Aitken/Waterman fame). If you would
like to see the sleeves of these records, please goto:

http://www.cafe80s.demon.co.uk/saw/sleeves/menus/shortc/erik.htm

I would be interested in obtaining other early pictures of Erik (or Erykah as
you may know her!).

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GNeal

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>
>
>In the early 90s, Erykah Badu was called ERIK and was singed to the
>UK label PWL (Pete Waterman Limited). She made several great records
>produced by Stock & Waterman (of Stock/Aitken/Waterman fame). If you would
>like to see the sleeves of these records, please goto:
>
>http://www.cafe80s.demon.co.uk/saw/sleeves/menus/shortc/erik.htm
>


I hope everybody knows this is a joke. (or I hope this guy doesn't believe
this).
I live in Dallas. Erykah is from here. She was a rappin' before singin'.
There are some legendary tapes of her freestyles floating around down here.
She wrote comedy with Steve Harvey a little bit. (He owned a club here).
She was part of the beginning of a club where black poets could come and
express themselves. It was located in Oak Cliff. Her partners have since
restarted it with a different name in a new place.
If this poster is a regular funny guy, then sorry to spoil the fun. But the
poster is more likely misinformed. But she didn't do none of that wack Erik
shit.

peace


John Book

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Mar 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/29/98
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"GNeal" <nob...@this.net> wrote:
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>
>jer...@cafe80s.demon.co.uk wrote in message
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>>
>>
>>In the early 90s, Erykah Badu was called ERIK and was singed to the
>>UK label PWL
>
>I hope everybody knows this is a joke. (or I hope this guy doesn't
believe
>this).


All too obvious, although it threw me off. For those who don't know,
Stock, Aiken & Waterman were known for their high-gloss productions with
such people as Bananarama, Kylie Minogue, and Dead Or Alive. Erykah has
a lot more soul than that.

-John Book
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jer...@cafe80s.demon.co.uk

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Mar 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/29/98
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I'm not joking! Please take a look at my sleeve gallery and decide for
yourself!

http://www.cafe80s.demon.co.uk/saw/sleeves/menus/shortc/erik.htm

> >In the early 90s, Erykah Badu was called ERIK and was singed to the

> >UK label PWL (Pete Waterman Limited). She made several great records
> >produced by Stock & Waterman (of Stock/Aitken/Waterman fame). If you would
> >like to see the sleeves of these records, please goto:
> >
> >http://www.cafe80s.demon.co.uk/saw/sleeves/menus/shortc/erik.htm
> >
>

> I hope everybody knows this is a joke. (or I hope this guy doesn't believe
> this).

> I live in Dallas. Erykah is from here. She was a rappin' before singin'.
> There are some legendary tapes of her freestyles floating around down here.
> She wrote comedy with Steve Harvey a little bit. (He owned a club here).
> She was part of the beginning of a club where black poets could come and
> express themselves. It was located in Oak Cliff. Her partners have since
> restarted it with a different name in a new place.
> If this poster is a regular funny guy, then sorry to spoil the fun. But the
> poster is more likely misinformed. But she didn't do none of that wack Erik
> shit.
>
> peace
>
>

Tim Brown.

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GNeal <nob...@this.net> wrote in article
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>
> jer...@cafe80s.demon.co.uk wrote in message
> <6fjtd2$r6c$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >
> >

> >In the early 90s, Erykah Badu was called ERIK and was singed to the
> >UK label PWL (Pete Waterman Limited). She made several great records
> >produced by Stock & Waterman (of Stock/Aitken/Waterman fame). If you
would
> >like to see the sleeves of these records, please goto:
> >
> >http://www.cafe80s.demon.co.uk/saw/sleeves/menus/shortc/erik.htm
> >
>
>
> I hope everybody knows this is a joke. (or I hope this guy doesn't
believe
> this).
> I live in Dallas. Erykah is from here. She was a rappin' before
singin'.
> There are some legendary tapes of her freestyles floating around down
here.
> She wrote comedy with Steve Harvey a little bit. (He owned a club here).
> She was part of the beginning of a club where black poets could come and
> express themselves. It was located in Oak Cliff. Her partners have
since
> restarted it with a different name in a new place.
> If this poster is a regular funny guy, then sorry to spoil the fun. But
the
> poster is more likely misinformed. But she didn't do none of that wack
Erik
> shit.

I actually thought he believed it too. You could just see the big question
marks over my head like "what the hell? Ever heard of Erykah free? And
since when did she move to the UK, record a few albums, then move back?"

"....cause it's flat on one side."


Kenneth Hyde

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Mar 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/29/98
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<<I hope everybody knows this is a joke. (or I hope this guy doesn't believe
this).
I live in Dallas. Erykah is from here. She was a rappin' before singin'.
There are some legendary tapes of her freestyles floating around down here.
She wrote comedy with Steve Harvey a little bit. (He owned a club here).
She was part of the beginning of a club where black poets could come and
express themselves. It was located in Oak Cliff. Her partners have since
restarted it with a different name in a new place.
If this poster is a regular funny guy, then sorry to spoil the fun. But the
poster is more likely misinformed. But she didn't do none of that wack Erik
shit.

peace>>


So it is true. She was rapping before singing. So why the switch
....money??? I heard a rumor that her label told her she had to sing and
not rap. Any confirmations??

Mr. Hyde

GNeal

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jer...@cafe80s.demon.co.uk wrote in message
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>
>
>I'm not joking! Please take a look at my sleeve gallery and decide for
>yourself!
>
>http://www.cafe80s.demon.co.uk/saw/sleeves/menus/shortc/erik.htm
>


well, you are wrong. (simply put, with no animosity intended)

GNeal

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Kenneth Hyde wrote in message <0p7iZwi00...@andrew.cmu.edu>...

>So it is true. She was rapping before singing. So why the switch
>....money??? I heard a rumor that her label told her she had to sing and
>not rap. Any confirmations??
>
>Mr. Hyde

That's a good question, because whenever I'd see her around town with her
group, I just knew they were gonna blow up on some underground sounds. When
I heard about her signing up with Kedar, I thought she was gonna drop some
staright up rappin' hip hop. Kasaan from Mad Flava helped get her hooked
up(though he didn't get anything out of it). Kedar Massenburg also brought
us D'Angelo, Freestyle Fellowship and some others before Erykah. I really
don't think (!) they would have discouraged her rapping. But I can't say
for sure. She gotz flow.

It would not surprise me to find out that she was encouraged to sing more
because of the likelihood of easier marketing. (Money) But, I also won't
be surprised when, on her next album, she drops some rhymes into it. (I'm
tellin ya, not only can she rap, but she can freestyle hellagood.)

GNeal

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Mar 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/29/98
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should i post a picture of her from this period you speak of?


John Book

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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"GNeal" <nob...@this.net> wrote:
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>
When
>I heard about her signing up with Kedar, I thought she was gonna drop
some
>staright up rappin' hip hop. Kasaan from Mad Flava helped get her
hooked
>up(though he didn't get anything out of it).

Damn, a link between Mad Flava and Erykah Badu? Mad Flava was one of my
favorite groups in 1994, and who would've thought that Kasaan had some
hook ups. Are Mad Flava still around?


-John Book
spreading that butta like a muthafucka, baby

GNeal

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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John Book wrote in message <6fnbkj$6e1u$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>...
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>
>Damn, a link between Mad Flava and Erykah Badu? Mad Flava was one of my
>favorite groups in 1994, and who would've thought that Kasaan had some
>hook ups. Are Mad Flava still around?
>

Yeah, they're still around. They've started their own record label called
RAW DEAL records. (they weren't real happy about their previous dea due to
lack of SUPPORT from the label, an all too common story)

They've released a couple of singles the latest of which is called
Fatherless. IMO, the tracks aren't QUITE as strong as the ones from the
'...Ground Unda' lp. But, they're prepping to bring some more very soon. I
ran into Mikey Culture the other day(he's on 'Lickshot') & he's still
working on stuff to eventually put out an album. Chris is still makin beats
and perfecting his rhyme skillz (a mutual friend passed a tape along to me
recently of a party where he & members of Sons of Soul & a couple other
Dallas people were throwin down). Kasaans still out there actin crazy.
While I'm on this soap box: Bomb records (Return of the dj 1 & 2, etc.) is
issuing 2 new compilations next month that will feature tracks by Sons of
Soul. Along with a track by Profound (produced by Skinz from Sons of Soul.)

Anyway, if you are interested in getting copies of those Mad Flava 12"s I'll
try to post contact info soon. The first of them probably is GONE, but I
think I can still find 'Fatherless' around. I'll let you know.

Prolifik!

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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O.K here is some of the dope on Ms. Badu,
And I know because I know her personally.
I spent some time @ grambling university back in 90', where Erykah
Badu started college,
We were in a group called Culture Productions
Erykah was an MC along with (rasta) Che' Malik, another female MC (Half
Pint) a male MC (Self-Equality) 3 Dj\producers (Dj Ed, Dj Tekno & Myself).
Erykah & I even did a duet She & I rapped & she sang the hook on it.
We also put out (locally) a 12" with three cuts on it.
She never focused on the singing aspect of it, she was an MC first
& not just an MC, her lyrics were mad deep. (& long), ( I used to trip on
how she could remember them all.)
Long story short,
She left grambling headed for New York, ended up back home in Dallas doin'
her thing & boom the rest is history.
All the info you read about her is pretty generic but "MOSTLY" true.
All that UK stuff is false though, & the pictures the guy is talking about
aren't even her!

John Book wrote in message
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>"GNeal" <nob...@this.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>When
>>I heard about her signing up with Kedar, I thought she was gonna drop
>some
>>staright up rappin' hip hop. Kasaan from Mad Flava helped get her
>hooked
>>up(though he didn't get anything out of it).
>

>Damn, a link between Mad Flava and Erykah Badu? Mad Flava was one of my
>favorite groups in 1994, and who would've thought that Kasaan had some
>hook ups. Are Mad Flava still around?
>
>

GNeal

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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Prolifik, you still live in Dallas?

Down with EZ Eddie D and crew?
And are you doing any work?

I ask cuz your name sounds familiar.
(or are you in Houston now?)

John Book

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"GNeal" <nob...@this.net> wrote:
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>Anyway, if you are interested in getting copies of those Mad Flava 12"s
I'll
>try to post contact info soon. The first of them probably is GONE, but
I
>think I can still find 'Fatherless' around. I'll let you know.

Definitely do that. I interviewed Chris back in late 93 when they and
Priority Records were having problems with "FROM THE GROUND UNDA". I was
still doing my fanzine, "Intensity", and he was great to talk with.
Curious to hear how they are now.

Prolifik!

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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I never lived in Dallas.
I live in Houston.
I'm not familiar with EZ Eddie D.
I'm currently starting a production company.

Did EZ Eddie work with her too?

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GNeal

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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Got ya confused wit someone else for a sec, sorry.

You weren't with Erykah Free, then? Sorry for the mix up.

peace.

GNeal

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Apr 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/1/98
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I don't want to start nothin bad here, but How was she to work with at that
time?

I've heard different stuff. Most people tend to give her real props for
sharing the creativity and not closing off others. But, man, I was doing a
little jazz radio show on local community radio here and htis guy would hang
out with us sometimes who used to date her(!). I think he's just sour.
(his musical aspirations aren't moving, and he's unwilling to make it
happen) Anyway, he portrays her as a back bitin' woman. But, once again, I
think he's just mad.

Boogie!

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Apr 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/2/98
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Nah I wasn't with Erykah Free, we had a crew a couple of years before that,
she thanked us in the liner notes on her album. (Culture Productions)

Boogie!

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Prolifik!

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She was cool peeples,
The only thing bugged about her was her constant need for attention.
Peace

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