ATCQ "love movement" album review
Paul Hartman
went and got their new album "The Love Movement". I turned it on. The first
thing I heard was some bass, and nothing else. Just some vocals on top of 1
bass beat.
"Maybe its just some weird ass intro" I thought to myself. But by track 5, I
was checking my CD player to make sure it wasn't still on track 1. I was still
listening to the same damn beat. By track 10, I was starting to wonder if they
didn't get one bass drum sample and loop it for an hour and just rap every
song to it, with SPARSE other samples.
By albums end, I was bored almost to tears. I haven't heard an album with
beats so similar on every song since Scarface's Untouchable album. I think
this one even tops that. Not only does almost every song have the same,
simplistic, dull beat, but its a 21 track album thats about 20 tracks too
long.
You almost forget there's even lyrics on the album, because your brain gets
fixated on just how boring and wack the beats are. Wondering when that tight
jazz & blues loop is going to kick in and the old tribe flavor comes in. But
it never does. Not even in the bonus remixes and stuff. They're all boring. I
mean, for christs sake, even no limit makes more interesting beats than these,
and considering how utterly HORRIBLE no limits home-made radio shack rapmaster
keyboard ass beats are I think that's saying quite a lot.
There is one song that has more than a simple bass beat, but it has so much
non harmonized sample loops on top of each other that is just sounds like wild
noise. At this point in my life I dont feel like skipping through the CD to
find the name of this particular track; but I don't think it's so necessary to
this review.
And who's bright idea was it to have wack ass "what what what" Noreaga on
here, can you say commercial rap appeal?
I usually don't completely ignore the lyrics when giving my opinion of an
album, but the beats stand out SO much on this album that it's hard for me to
write about anything else. I don't know if they had a $100 production budget
for the whole album or what, or perhaps its some new concept album where they
use one beat for the whole album and see how many suckers will buy it.
So bottom line, unless you are a tribe called quest MEGAFAN, who simply MUST
have every single thing they ever do, please save your money and steal a metal
trash can lid & a wooden spoon and bang out some drum beats; perhaps you can
record them and mail me the tape, I'm sure it will entertain me for longer
than this album did.
After hearing this CD, I'm starting to think they had the right idea when they
broke up. Maybe they listened to the final version of this album and just gave
up hope.
A final bit of irony, fife's lyrics in one of the songs (again I forget which,
since they all sound the same), had several lines about how he'd never use
wack beats, and how his beats are always incredible, and so on. I couldn't
help but to let out a laugh from disbelief when I heard that. My man must be
deaf & blind cause he cant see that he cant hear.
peace,
Paul
Kenneth Hyde
OK, I'll still try to listen to some of the tracks before I make a
decision, but this is pretty much what I expected...
Mr. Hyde
angela
" The songs are sweet and sincere, even if the Tribe are too polite to
cut loose -- it's like getting an obscene phone call from Al Gore."
(Rob Sheffield).
Damn.
angieee (I want that old thing back)
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Khadafi662
Now I ain't like all y'all like that all that old school original hip hop shit,
thas why i dont have that many old cds past 88 or so..and i only have Tribe's
last 2, but i had to get this even though the reviews werent that good and i
love the cd. Tip & Phife rip it up (IMO) on 80% of the tracks, i dont know why
everyone doesnt like it.....shit, i was fiendin for that OutKast cd baaad, and
i picked up Tribe at the same time i did Kast, and i ended up listening to
Tribe more than I did OutKast (but I aint sayin that Kast's new cd aint good,
cuz its tite as hell, its better than Tribe (IMO) i just got into Tribe alot
more at first)
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Steady Mobbin Thru This Clout
Wit My Thang Right By My Side
Suggestin Y'all Put Down Your Pride
Cuz All These Playa Hatas Die.
Ain't No Love For The Otha Side
So Ain't No Way I'ma Let It Ride
-Young Bleed
BSE
I like my beats hard like two day old shit. Maybe he meant crusty and
constipated like two day old shit?
I listened in teh shop and, I would like ONE reason apart from Redmans
mediocre verse, why i should buy this album?
BSE
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"Yo Phife you remember taht routine,
where we used to do generic raps over repetative beats?" - SQuewd tip
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kabir
Midnight... their tinny beats are so boring and predictable and people
actually have the nerve to say the Ummah and Jay Dee are talented &
getting them to rmx other tracks.
What you explained was what I was expecting from the new (and last)
ATCQ albums-Frankly I even think he sucks as a rapper,I can`t listen
to anything new and compare him to the guy off Hot Sex.
Peace
Kabir
QUIZativ
the same reason Boot Camp switched to that same sound:
Samples cost a hell of a lot more than they did back in 91, and a group like
ATCQ is well known enough to put out music without samples and still sell
records... which of course = more money than if they did pay for samples!
Is this move to 'synch' instead of 'sample' indicative of the real lack of
"musical" talent in the hip hop production industry?
peace
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kabir wrote in message <3612BB...@box.net.au>...
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"QUIZativ" <qu...@iSTAR.ca> wrote:
> We all know the reason for this "tinny" beat change in ATCQ production is
> the same reason Boot Camp switched to that same sound:
>
> Samples cost a hell of a lot more than they did back in 91, and a group like
> ATCQ is well known enough to put out music without samples and still sell
> records... which of course = more money than if they did pay for samples!
Actually Quiz, peep the liner notes in "The Love Movement". You'll probably
be surprised to see just how many samples they used on this album...I think I
counted about 8...and that doesn't even include the 4 samples listed for that
bonus song "Money Maker". But I do agree that the beats are a lot simpler
than the old Tribe beats from Low End or Midnight Marauders...I mean, I
really miss the fat basslines like the one on "Electric Relaxation". Still,
I like the new Tribe album compared to most stuff out nowadays. It still
gets my head nodding.
Tone
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QUIZativ
a...@gene.com wrote in message <6v0cdv$4c2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <%JGQ1.1$uC4....@NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net>,
> "QUIZativ" <qu...@iSTAR.ca> wrote:
>> We all know the reason for this "tinny" beat change in ATCQ production is
>> the same reason Boot Camp switched to that same sound:
>>
>> Samples cost a hell of a lot more than they did back in 91, and a group
like
>> ATCQ is well known enough to put out music without samples and still sell
>> records... which of course = more money than if they did pay for samples!
>
>Actually Quiz, peep the liner notes in "The Love Movement". You'll
probably
>be surprised to see just how many samples they used on this album...I think
I
>counted about 8...and that doesn't even include the 4 samples listed for
that
>bonus song "Money Maker". But I do agree that the beats are a lot simpler
>than the old Tribe beats from Low End or Midnight Marauders...I mean, I
>really miss the fat basslines like the one on "Electric Relaxation".
Still,
>I like the new Tribe album compared to most stuff out nowadays. It still
>gets my head nodding.
hmmm, I hadn't peeped the liner notes yet. I suppose it'd be smart to do
such a thing before I go posting such conclusive statements :-). I was
vibin once again to Love Movement in my ride tonighht, and I think if you
let this album grow on you a bit, you'll start to find some of those
basslines nearly, if not as fat as many of the Midnight beats.
Incidentally, I went back a took a listen to Midnight, and you know, there
are fewer differences production-wise than I think most people realise
between the two albums.
Nikol Hopkins
> I was
> vibin once again to Love Movement in my ride tonighht, and I think if you
> let this album grow on you a bit, you'll start to find some of those
> basslines nearly, if not as fat as many of the Midnight beats.
> Incidentally, I went back a took a listen to Midnight, and you know, there
> are fewer differences production-wise than I think most people realise
> between the two albums.
:::laughing hysterically:::
Nikol
:::that *was* a joke, wasn't it?!:::
QUIZativ
Nikol Hopkins wrote in message <3614D738...@worldnet.att.net>...
did you go and listen to Midnight carefully (being careful not to let your
sentiments about where you were when you were firts vibin to it... ie:
listen to it objectivly) before laughing?