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mattmatical

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:31:27 AM12/12/09
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I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.


Matt

Luca

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Dec 12, 2009, 10:55:31 AM12/12/09
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mattmatical schrieb:

> I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.

Enjoy.

Luca
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Haroon

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:18:17 AM12/12/09
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On 2009-12-12 10:31:27 -0500, mattmatical <i....@i.be> said:

> I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.

Too bad it's absolute trash.

Luca

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Dec 12, 2009, 11:23:46 AM12/12/09
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Haroon schrieb:

> On 2009-12-12 10:31:27 -0500, mattmatical <i....@i.be> said:
>
>> I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.
>
> Too bad it's absolute trash.

Oh come on now, you miserable old man.

Tim Schnetgoeke

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:38:03 PM12/12/09
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On 12 Dez., 17:23, Luca <sirbumpalot-05...@nurfuerspam.de> wrote:

> >> I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.
>
> > Too bad it's absolute trash.
>
> Oh come on now, you miserable old man.

it doesn't even come close to the 18th letter. i want to listen to a
new rakim album as much as the next man but this one is neither here
nor there. he used to have much better beats + i don't even want to
talk about the singers.

seriously, i don't believe the hype. he's turned from a leader to a
follower. end of story.

Haroon

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:10:28 PM12/12/09
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There's a couple tracks that are /okay/, but nothing I'd go out of my
way to play much less actually pay for.

It's like -- if anyone else did this record would you even pay
attention? Yeah thought so.

Luca

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Dec 12, 2009, 6:33:00 PM12/12/09
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Tim Schnetgoeke schrieb:

> it doesn't even come close to the 18th letter. i want to listen to a
> new rakim album as much as the next man but this one is neither here
> nor there. he used to have much better beats + i don't even want to
> talk about the singers.

Okay, they went a bit overboard with that singer (who seems to be the
same on every other track). But to compare it to the 18th Letter? That
was pretty hit or miss in my book.

> seriously, i don't believe the hype. he's turned from a leader to a
> follower. end of story.

Yeah, I prefer follow the leader or let the rhythm hit em too, but this
is him, now. And it's pretty decent. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Lex

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:18:18 AM12/13/09
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"mattmatical" <i....@i.be> wrote in message
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>I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.
>
>
> Matt

No barking from the dog? No smog?


mattmatical

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:52:53 AM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:18:18 +1000, "Lex" wrote:

>No barking from the dog? No smog?

Yup, and mama cooked the breakfast with no hog.


Matt

mattmatical

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:55:12 AM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:33:00 +0100, Luca wrote:

>But to compare it to the 18th Letter? That
>was pretty hit or miss in my book.

"Letter" was mostly brilliant. "The Master" was the
absolute debacle.


Matt

mattmatical

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:41:05 AM12/13/09
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On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:31:27 +0100, mattmatical <i....@i.be> wrote:

>I was able to buy a brand new Rakim album.

So... I take it this is Ra's attempt at a contemporary album. A
failure IMO. The beats are just bland compositions that may
sound contemporary but lack any character. No rapper will
ever truly shine on beats that don't aim to rise up to his level.

Most of the time, if I didn't know any better, I would say that's
not the God. What happened to the grit and bass in his voice?

The singers (and hook samples) are a distraction, often
downright annoying.

Big disappointment upon first listen.


Matt

Haroon

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:16:33 PM12/13/09
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On 2009-12-13 08:41:05 -0500, mattmatical <i....@i.be> said:

> What happened to the grit and bass in his voice?

That's what I was thinking. If I heard this while walking down the
street I might not even realize it's him, just would figure it's some
dude I don't know about and have no interest in knowing about.

Luca

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:23:27 PM12/13/09
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Haroon schrieb:

> On 2009-12-13 08:41:05 -0500, mattmatical said:
>
>> What happened to the grit and bass in his voice?
>
> That's what I was thinking. If I heard this while walking down the
> street I might not even realize it's him, just would figure it's some
> dude I don't know about and have no interest in knowing about.

Could it be that you're so disappointed cos he's one of your faves from
back in the day and now he's finally fallen from this high pedestal
you've put him on. Or am I wrong? (It was like that with P.E. for me.)

I just take it as an album like any other and I'm not disappointed,
partially, I guess, cos I toned down my expectations like 10 years ago.

Haroon

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:03:48 PM12/13/09
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On 2009-12-13 16:23:27 -0500, Luca <sirbumpa...@nurfuerspam.de> said:

> Could it be that you're so disappointed cos he's one of your faves from
> back in the day and now he's finally fallen from this high pedestal
> you've put him on. Or am I wrong? (It was like that with P.E. for me.)

Eh, not disappointed. I wouldn't listen to this LP no matter whose
name was on it. There were at least 5 LPs put out this year that were
better, and that's saying something for 2009. Blaq Poet, Puba's, Marco
Polo & Torae, Raekwon -- even Kurious' CD was better than this shit and
it had a number of let down tracks. If you want to use the
disappointed argument Kurious got it, but still -- that's an "okay"
record; Rakim's is just shit. Even Capone and Noriega had a couple
Primo tracks to prevent you from smashing the CD and cutting your
wrists with the shrapnel.

Luca

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:08:01 PM12/13/09
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Haroon schrieb:

> On 2009-12-13 16:23:27 -0500, Luca <sirbumpa...@nurfuerspam.de> said:
>
>> Could it be that you're so disappointed cos he's one of your faves from
>> back in the day and now he's finally fallen from this high pedestal
>> you've put him on. Or am I wrong? (It was like that with P.E. for me.)
>
> Eh, not disappointed. I wouldn't listen to this LP no matter whose name
> was on it. There were at least 5 LPs put out this year that were
> better, and that's saying something for 2009. Blaq Poet

Blaq Poet? Ouch! ;)

bozak

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:09:10 PM12/13/09
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Haroon wrote:
> On 2009-12-13 16:23:27 -0500, Luca <sirbumpa...@nurfuerspam.de>
> said:
>> Could it be that you're so disappointed cos he's one of your faves
>> from back in the day and now he's finally fallen from this high
>> pedestal you've put him on. Or am I wrong? (It was like that with
>> P.E. for me.)
>
> Eh, not disappointed. I wouldn't listen to this LP no matter whose
> name was on it. There were at least 5 LPs put out this year that were
> better, and that's saying something for 2009. Blaq Poet, Puba's,
> Marco Polo & Torae, Raekwon -- even Kurious' CD was better than this
> shit and it had a number of let down tracks. If you want to use the
> disappointed argument Kurious got it, but still -- that's an "okay"
> record; Rakim's is just shit.

this is what i was saying... its not that im expecting ramkim from 20 years
ago, its that im expecting dopeness...

haroon you can hate on dre all you like, but i bet if that was the kind of
shit rakim wanted to put out i can see why dre let him go...


Lex

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Dec 13, 2009, 10:17:54 PM12/13/09
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"Luca" <sirbumpa...@nurfuerspam.de> wrote in message
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> Haroon schrieb:
>> On 2009-12-13 16:23:27 -0500, Luca <sirbumpa...@nurfuerspam.de>
>> said:
>>
>>> Could it be that you're so disappointed cos he's one of your faves from
>>> back in the day and now he's finally fallen from this high pedestal
>>> you've put him on. Or am I wrong? (It was like that with P.E. for me.)
>>
>> Eh, not disappointed. I wouldn't listen to this LP no matter whose name
>> was on it. There were at least 5 LPs put out this year that were
>> better, and that's saying something for 2009. Blaq Poet
>
> Blaq Poet? Ouch! ;)
>

Yeah, that scared me a little too...


Tim Schnetgoeke

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:13:04 AM12/14/09
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On 14 Dez., 02:09, " bozak" <________bo...@gmail.com________>
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> this is what i was saying... its not that im expecting ramkim from 20 years
> ago, its that im expecting dopeness...

rakim on 18th letter sounded different from his earlier records as
well. this only annoyed me when i saw him "perform" with two different
voices, realizing that he probably was too lazy to remember the
lyrics. but he still sounded good on that record. pete rock, clark
kent + premo did a good job as well.

which track on the new album comes close to "guess who's back"?

Luca

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Dec 14, 2009, 3:17:39 AM12/14/09
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Tim Schnetgoeke schrieb:

> which track on the new album comes close to "guess who's back"?

"Satisfaction Guaranteed" maybe. Kinda anthemic, but uptempo with a
hard-ish beat.

Haroon

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Dec 14, 2009, 6:33:22 AM12/14/09
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On 2009-12-13 20:09:10 -0500, " bozak"
<______...@gmail.com________> said:

> haroon you can hate on dre all you like, but i bet if that was the kind of
> shit rakim wanted to put out i can see why dre let him go...

Pretty much. I have a feeling the Dre-camp wanted to turn him into a
complete, marketable package ala Snoop, Eminem, and others. Some sort
of tangible gimmick to hang off of. Rakim probably didn't like that
idea, or had something else in mind. Somewhere along all of that he
got infected with their popish beats and didn't shake it off for this
album. Problem being, Dre's people sort of know how to make pop-hop
work without alienating everyone.

The result of this whole experience is an LP where he had creative
control, and attempted to duplicate what he'd learned at Aftermath with
his own special ingredients. Unfortunately the resulting entree is
vomit-inducing, like pancakes with mayonnaise on top: an average dish
you'd usually enjoy, but is now completely fucked and no amount of
syrup can really fix it. Throw that shit in the trash and start over:
you wasted Bisquick, mayonnaise, and your time -- don't do it again.
Fuck it, I'm going to IHOP.

Hey -- how about a remix? That's not even possible because the
concepts, lyrics, and hooks all suck.


TJ Xenos

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Dec 14, 2009, 11:13:33 AM12/14/09
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In a nutshell, eric b didn't do anything in the group ever, but
somehow rakim without eric b suck, while rakim with eric b is
amazing. 18th letter had like 2 songs, seriously, whats with people
jocking it? I mean its better than the master by almost the same
degree as its worth than DSTT, but just like being a lot smarter than
a retard doesn't make you a genius...

mattmatical

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:03:43 PM12/14/09
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:17:54 +1000, "Lex" wrote:

>> Blaq Poet? Ouch! ;)
>>
>
>Yeah, that scared me a little too...

I have to agree with Haroon. I prefer the Blaq Poet record.


Matt

Lex

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Dec 14, 2009, 3:53:42 PM12/14/09
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"mattmatical" <i....@i.be> wrote in message
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"Blaqprint" wasn't horrible but middle of the road at best. My fear is that
Blaq Poet would even be considered as one of the best albums of the year. If
so, I will finally succumb to the notion that hip hop is dead...


Brown Hornet

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Dec 14, 2009, 4:31:26 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 12:53 pm, "Lex" <el...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> "mattmatical" <i...@i.be> wrote in message

I was disappointed with Blaq's album. It was not good.

Brown Hornet

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Dec 14, 2009, 4:34:14 PM12/14/09
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I didn't think the album was too bad. It was better than what I
expected it to be. I still have these songs on constant repeat.

Walk These Streets
Put It All To Music
Dedicated
Working For You

Haroon

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:02:03 PM12/14/09
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On 2009-12-14 16:34:14 -0500, Brown Hornet <jsid...@hotmail.com> said:

> Walk These Streets

I just shit myself.

Brown Hornet

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Dec 14, 2009, 7:58:18 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 4:02 pm, Haroon <halqaht...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2009-12-14 16:34:14 -0500, Brown Hornet <jsidh...@hotmail.com> said:
>
> > Walk These Streets
>
> I just shit myself.

Ha ha ha. It's better than "Holy Are You".

A to the L

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:45:10 PM12/14/09
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I liked Holy Are You.

However, I've only listened to the first 3 songs, and my first
impression is Skip City.

Doesn't bode well.

Bastard. Getting my hopes up and all.

Still - LOL @ Blaq Poet being an album of the year contender.

;)

A to the L

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:38:35 PM12/17/09
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yup. And this one is somewhere in between. Okay but kind of boring.

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Lex

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:58:30 AM12/18/09
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"big normy" <norm...@yahoo.com.normspants> wrote in message
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Just wondering, am I the only one that laughs at Norm's signature every time
he posts? Please let there be others!

And to Norm, ever get the urge to change it?


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