Best of 2009
Luca
posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
nothing official.
I guess by now we've all marinated on this long enough. Let's hear it.
I'll post mine tomorrow, to not spoil the fun for you guys. ;) (But fret
not, Rakim is not on the list...)
Luca
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Luca
> Did I miss a thread or did we leave out the big "ultimate top lists"
> posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
> nothing official.
>
> I guess by now we've all marinated on this long enough. Let's hear it.
>
> I'll post mine tomorrow, to not spoil the fun for you guys. ;) (But fret
> not, Rakim is not on the list...)
Whew!
What a year, ey?
bozak
> Luca schrieb:
>> Did I miss a thread or did we leave out the big "ultimate top lists"
>> posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
>> nothing official.
>>
>> I guess by now we've all marinated on this long enough. Let's hear
>> it.
>>
>> I'll post mine tomorrow, to not spoil the fun for you guys. ;) (But
>> fret not, Rakim is not on the list...)
>
> Whew!
> What a year, ey?
>
> Luca
*crickets*
:-)
A to the L
<sirbumpa...@nurfuerspam.de> wrote:
>Did I miss a thread or did we leave out the big "ultimate top lists"
>posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
>nothing official.
GUCCI!
AYE
BURR!
A to the L
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mattmatical
Matt
Luca
> Did I miss a thread or did we leave out the big "ultimate top lists"
> posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
> nothing official.
where's bse if you need to get a list done?
mattmatical
>Did I miss a thread or did we leave out the big "ultimate top lists"
>posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
>nothing official.
Favorite:
Ghost
MOP
Blaq Poet
Mos Def
Matt
Luca
> Favorite:
> Ghost
> MOP
> Blaq Poet
> Mos Def
Still gotta give the Ghost and Mos Def ones a spin. Could that mean Mos
has won back his former audience?
Blaq didn't do it for me while MOP wasn't half-bad, actually.
mochaspresso
I didn't puchase any physical cds in 2009. I didn't purchase that
many full albums either. Of what I did buy my fav was drake.
Drake
Jayz
Maino
Fabolous
Wale
Knaan
mochaspresso
Stuff that I should have checked out in 2009 but didn't for whatever
reason...
Mop
Mos def
Slaughterhouse.....from what I heard, they did an amazing performance
at jones beach this past summer.
suntzu
> mattmatical schrieb:
>
>> Favorite:
>> Ghost
>> MOP
>> Blaq Poet
>> Mos Def
>
> Still gotta give the Ghost and Mos Def ones a spin. Could that mean Mos
> has won back his former audience?
> Blaq didn't do it for me while MOP wasn't half-bad, actually.
>
> Luca
that mos def album is really good. it's the first one i've heard since
BOBS, so i can't compare it to the intervening ones, but i like it a
lot, and still listen to it.
other favorites from last year:
raekwon
quik and kurupt
dj shadow - 4 track era (comp of pre-solesides beats and mixes)
mattmatical
>raekwon
>quik and kurupt
I forgot those.
Matt
beezer
> Luca schrieb:
>
> > Did I miss a thread or did we leave out the big "ultimate top lists"
> > posts this end of the year? There have been tentative shortlists, but
> > nothing official.
>
> where's bse if you need to get a list done?
"Call my name, and I'll come running"
Woah, a Keith Murray quote.
bse
beezer
G-Side - Huntsville International (Last three tracks are the strongest
sequence in years)
Jay-Z - Blueprint 3 (It's better than American Gangster, Vol. 1 & 2,
Streets Is Watching and the Dynasty)
Willie Isz - Georgiavania (A whole LP of Khujo over interesting beats?
Yes please)
The stuff off the Big Boi album, even though the album hasn't come
out.
I didn't much like the Gucci album. The Rae album was alternately
boring/embarrassing apart from one beat. I didn't hear the Ghost. The
Clipse album is SHIT.
Was the UGK album last year? That was good.
My top tunes of the year (all genres) is here:
http://www.worldofproper.com/16334578/2010/01/04/listmas-my-2009-tunes/
yup, beez
beezer
> Slaughterhouse.....from what I heard, they did an amazing performance
> at jones beach this past summer.
Jones Beach??? I'd be scurred to go there after what happened to
Jerome's niece.
bse
STRATEGY
something about a split domepiece?
STRATEGY
beezer
Nah, she just got shot in the domepiece. It's bugged.
beez
suntzu
> My albums that I gave a shit about in 2009:
>
> G-Side - Huntsville International (Last three tracks are the strongest
> sequence in years)
i just read an interview with these guys in pitchfork the other day and
i want to give them a listen.
i really liked that "fear and loathing in huntsvegas" thing and played
it a ton over the last year, but i think it was technically released in
late 08.
so huntsville is a new scene or something?
> Jay-Z - Blueprint 3 (It's better than American Gangster, Vol. 1 & 2,
> Streets Is Watching and the Dynasty)
> Willie Isz - Georgiavania (A whole LP of Khujo over interesting beats?
> Yes please)
>
i really need to give this another listen. i heard it twice, but wasn't
quite in the mood for it either time, so it didn't really stick.
> The stuff off the Big Boi album, even though the album hasn't come
> out.
>
> I didn't much like the Gucci album. The Rae album was alternately
> boring/embarrassing apart from one beat. I didn't hear the Ghost. The
> Clipse album is SHIT.
>
i really like that rae album. the clipse is spotty, but there are
tracks on it i like a lot.
i keep forgetting that i need to check out that ghost.
> Was the UGK album last year? That was good.
>
i think? yeah, it wasn't bad.
> My top tunes of the year (all genres) is here:
> http://www.worldofproper.com/16334578/2010/01/04/listmas-my-2009-tunes/
>
well, at least we agree on the best track on that clipse album if not
its general quality level.
i just discovered that "blinded by the lights" remix a few weeks ago,
and i've played it a fair bit, but it actually made me go back and start
playing the original a ton all over again (not that it ever really fell
out of rotation). i didn't like that streets album overall nearly as
much as the critics generally did, but i loved that song (and the
closing track).
so, uh, what's your opinion on dubstep in general? it's probably
between 30 and 50 percent of my musical intake these days. that
hyperdub comp and the king midas sound album have been getting a ton of
rotation from me since they came out late last year.
>
> yup, beez
beezer
<sun...@removethispart.freeshell.andthistoo.org> wrote:
> beezer wrote:
> > My albums that I gave a shit about in 2009:
>
> > G-Side - Huntsville International (Last three tracks are the strongest
> > sequence in years)
>
> i just read an interview with these guys in pitchfork the other day and
> i want to give them a listen.
>
> i really liked that "fear and loathing in huntsvegas" thing and played
> it a ton over the last year, but i think it was technically released in
> late 08.
>
> so huntsville is a new scene or something?
Kinda. There's a few folks from around there that are doing something
interesting. Codie G and Burn One (who is ATL I think) seem to have
their fingers in all the more exciting pies.
> > Jay-Z - Blueprint 3 (It's better than American Gangster, Vol. 1 & 2,
> > Streets Is Watching and the Dynasty)
> > Willie Isz - Georgiavania (A whole LP of Khujo over interesting beats?
> > Yes please)
>
> i really need to give this another listen. i heard it twice, but wasn't
> quite in the mood for it either time, so it didn't really stick.
It's not amazing but it's probably better than the Gnarls albums and
the last two Goodie albums, and that is good enough for me.
> > The stuff off the Big Boi album, even though the album hasn't come
> > out.
>
> > I didn't much like the Gucci album. The Rae album was alternately
> > boring/embarrassing apart from one beat. I didn't hear the Ghost. The
> > Clipse album is SHIT.
>
> i really like that rae album. the clipse is spotty, but there are
> tracks on it i like a lot.
Yeah it's got a couple tracks. Not good enough. Pusha fell THE FUCK
OFF.
> i keep forgetting that i need to check out that ghost.
>
> > Was the UGK album last year? That was good.
>
> i think? yeah, it wasn't bad.
>
> > My top tunes of the year (all genres) is here:
> >http://www.worldofproper.com/16334578/2010/01/04/listmas-my-2009-tunes/
>
> well, at least we agree on the best track on that clipse album if not
> its general quality level.
>
> i just discovered that "blinded by the lights" remix a few weeks ago,
> and i've played it a fair bit, but it actually made me go back and start
> playing the original a ton all over again (not that it ever really fell
> out of rotation). i didn't like that streets album overall nearly as
> much as the critics generally did, but i loved that song (and the
> closing track).
Hell yes. I only really play three Streets songs but I've played them
A LOT. That, Turn The Page and Weak Become Heroes.
> so, uh, what's your opinion on dubstep in general? it's probably
> between 30 and 50 percent of my musical intake these days. that
> hyperdub comp and the king midas sound album have been getting a ton of
> rotation from me since they came out late last year.
My general opinion is that it's boring and 99% of it is completely
derivative. I get a lot at work. While the beats remain so lumpen and
non-syncopated I'm never very interested. The few people not undoing
decades of good work in drum programming can make some nice tracks.
I'd rather see people apply the basslines and bass synth work to other
genres.
Most of the tracks seem to sample painfully obvious shit like
Reservoir Dogs or something. I think I'm getting too old for that
shit.
I guess I feel similarly to the way I feel about Dub itself, except
that Dub was decades ago and had a lot more scope and musicianship. I
got given that Hyperdub comp and while it doesn't offend me it doesn't
grab me in the slightest.
Oh shit, one thing I do like is that US rappers seem to have started
rapping over Dubstep tunes. This is a big improvement. That Nicki
Minaj version of Saxon is hirrarious.
I'm not hating on Dubstep it's just that it mostly sounds like 'some
more music' to my ears.
Yep.
bse
suntzu
>>> Willie Isz - Georgiavania (A whole LP of Khujo over interesting beats?
>>> Yes please)
>>
>> i really need to give this another listen. i heard it twice, but wasn't
>> quite in the mood for it either time, so it didn't really stick.
>
> It's not amazing but it's probably better than the Gnarls albums and
> the last two Goodie albums, and that is good enough for me.
>
i'm going see a fully reunited goodie mob this weekend, assuming they
don't cancel like they did a few months ago. psyched for that.
unfortunately, scarface is not their opener, as was the case for the
cancelled show. but jacka is opening, and natty and tj have both given
him a bunch of praise (though i haven't heard him yet).
>> so, uh, what's your opinion on dubstep in general? it's probably
>> between 30 and 50 percent of my musical intake these days. that
>> hyperdub comp and the king midas sound album have been getting a ton of
>> rotation from me since they came out late last year.
>
> My general opinion is that it's boring and 99% of it is completely
> derivative.
like pretty much any other genre?
> I get a lot at work. While the beats remain so lumpen and
> non-syncopated I'm never very interested. The few people not undoing
> decades of good work in drum programming can make some nice tracks.
> I'd rather see people apply the basslines and bass synth work to other
> genres.
eh, i like a lot of the drum programming, esp with those basslines. i
also like that there's this big heavy electronic music subgenre that
gets played in clubs and isn't primarily 4x4. and i mean i like it on
it's own regardless of that bit of context, i listen to it plenty at
work and at home.
actually, you should give me some jungle recommendations (you are/were a
jungle fan, right?). i missed jungle the first time around, and i've
gotten to it backwards via dubstep, but i still know very very little
jungle-proper.
> Most of the tracks seem to sample painfully obvious shit like
> Reservoir Dogs or something. I think I'm getting too old for that
> shit.
>
yeah, there's a ton of that shit, definitely, but there's lots of other
stuff that plays it a little more subtle and creative.
i'm also not a fan of the ridiculous wobble bass. that shit does always
seem way too obvious and dark/abrasive for the sake of being dark/abrasive.
skream's weird like that. he has a bunch of stuff that i think is
great, but he also has a bunch of stuff that sounds really phoned in.
i find that when i put dubstep artists into pandora i get
recommendations that sound like what you're describing, and i usually
skip them. for whatever that's worth.
> I guess I feel similarly to the way I feel about Dub itself, except
> that Dub was decades ago and had a lot more scope and musicianship.
esp if you include the stuff at its margins, i think dubstep is actually
pretty diverse and inventive. king midas sound sounds very different
from 2562, which sounds very different from kode9 or burial, which
sounds pretty different from skull disco, etc.
to me, at least. i guess it's always easier to find differences when
you're already into the basic genre tropes.
> I
> got given that Hyperdub comp and while it doesn't offend me it doesn't
> grab me in the slightest.
>
really? not "bad"? not "shake it"? not "meltdown"? "digidesign"?
man i love "meltdown". nice and heavy and claustrophobic. as a bonus,
the reference to the lee perry "moo" sound doubles as an agonized groan.
> Oh shit, one thing I do like is that US rappers seem to have started
> rapping over Dubstep tunes. This is a big improvement. That Nicki
> Minaj version of Saxon is hirrarious.
>
yeah, i feel like i've heard about this trend but missed it. will have
to do some youtube research. snoop did this too, right?
> I'm not hating on Dubstep it's just that it mostly sounds like 'some
> more music' to my ears.
>
fair enough, i feel like that about plenty of stuff that's loved by
other people whose tastes overlap with mine.
> Yep.
>
uh huh.
> bse
Lex
"suntzu" <sun...@no.solicitors.please.freeshell.org> wrote in message
news:hm5gi2$t94$1...@news.stanford.edu...
> On 2/15/2010 2:33 PM, beezer wrote:
>>>> Willie Isz - Georgiavania (A whole LP of Khujo over interesting beats?
>>>> Yes please)
>>>
>>> i really need to give this another listen. i heard it twice, but wasn't
>>> quite in the mood for it either time, so it didn't really stick.
>>
>> It's not amazing but it's probably better than the Gnarls albums and
>> the last two Goodie albums, and that is good enough for me.
>>
>
> i'm going see a fully reunited goodie mob this weekend, assuming they
> don't cancel like they did a few months ago. psyched for that.
> unfortunately, scarface is not their opener, as was the case for the
> cancelled show. but jacka is opening, and natty and tj have both given
> him a bunch of praise (though i haven't heard him yet).
>
Here's some Jacka for you (nh)...
http://eldogz.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/cats-i-aint-never-seen-on-tv-the-jacka/