Damn, that's some sad news.
RIP
NFA!
Just saw this. Bummer :-(
RIP
BIll Ward
Elvin Jones
> BIll Ward
> Elvin Jones
Bill Ward?...from Sabbath?...you OK, Grunt?
As fer Elvin...well THATS another whole can of clams..
These rock dudes couldn't cut a jazz chart..MAYBE Broof
could....Keith Moon on brushes?...Bonzo accompanying Ornette?
Wouldnt/Couldn't happen.
Nah....Jazz is the REAL music....Rock n' Roll is fun, dont get me wrong,
but it takes a MAN to play jazz.
You keep bringing up lightweights like this Ward guy...and I'm going
to personally come up to Boston and pull ya "hip card'
You hear me, Grunt?
Amazing.
Another Pod, sigh!
Sad day..
Yes, I'm talking Bill fucking Ward!
Problem?
> Another Pod, sigh!
> Sad day..
> Yes, I'm talking Bill fucking Ward!
> Problem?
Jeesh!...dummy up, Grunt!
Ok...Ok...I LOVE my '70-75 Sabs....
but dont you DARE mention this dude in the same
breath as Elvin MF'in JONES!
I'm on hold with my travel agent as we speak...
I can catch a red eye to Logan TOOT sweet and clean house!
Ya hit a nerve here, baby!
Here ya go funny boy
Jim Gordon
Keith Moon
Richie Hayward
Steeler
Bonham
maybe Keltner over Bonham or Steeler
my verification word is "hippi"
One might add those old warhorses Ginger Baker, Charlie Watts and
Levon Helm.
JimK
Elvin was a rock drummer?
JimK
> http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/jimi_hendrixs_drummer_mitch_mi.html
"Hendrix died after a drug overdose in 1970. Redding was 57 when he
died in 2003."
Damn. The Jimi Hendrix Experience is no longer with us.
Now playing: Jimi Hendrix Experience, "Live At Winterland"
>
> Elvin was a rock drummer?
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Nah,
Like Watts, Baker, & Helms he was a great drummer.
No need to bust up your hip, pops.
I'm talking Billy Ward fer crisakes!
> Bob Steeler
What, no Sammy Piazza?#####
I love Tuna as much as and maybe more than anybody (except MAYBE you)
but jeez DK, Bob Steeler?
Disgusted
Scot
Umm, you forgot someone...<coughing>Neil Peart<coughing>. Who's Bob
Steeler anyway?
What about Bill K.? Esp. the period from 71 to 74 when he was the sole
drummer in the band. He always seems to get overlooked.
I don't know how you can rate drummers any easier than guitarists.
There is style versus technique, etc. However, I will definitely agree
with Grunk that Bill Ward put some interesting rhythms into what made
Sabbath great. The focus is usually on Iommi's riffs, Geezer's neo-
psychedelic lyrics, and Ozzy's out-of-control demeanor. However, the
icing on that musical cake is definitely Ward. He pushes them to the
top shelf.
Kurt
>On Nov 12, 11:36 pm, JimK <jkezwind@comcastDOTnet> wrote:
One of the greatest, but Kelly's list did specify rock drummers.
JimK
> I could never figure out why he never did anything after
> Hendrix passed?...who wouldn't want Mitch Mitchell in
> they band?...
I was looking at his Wiki page recently and was surprised to see that
he tried out for Wings and was turned down. Too bad, but I can see
how his style wouldn't have fit. Of course, since I have only seen
this on Wiki, who knows if it's true.
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
> What, no Sammy Piazza?#####
* Sammy was a LOT better than Joey Covington
> I love Tuna as much as and maybe more than anybody (except MAYBE you)
> but jeez DK, Bob Steeler?
* You disappoint me, my friend...do not FUCK wit
Bob "The Man of Steel" Steeler....how DARE you!
Name me another drummer that was pullin' 4-5 hour shifts
on stage night after night, and NEVER dropping the beat?
You think Neil Pert could cut a 45 minute "Invitation" at 3am?
Nah...this dope was back at the hotel, alone, with nothing more
than his moustache curler and tattered copy of "Atlas Shrugged"
...and I LIKE Neil Pert.
> Disgusted
* You too?
We're done here.
> You'll have to forgive Sweets. Lately, he's been struggling with all
> sorts of drumming questions; most recently it's whether Brian Forster was
> really better than Jeremy Gelbwaks.
* Gelbwaks, obviously. (And this cat is from Boston too)
Ah....but you really never were interested in anything 'cept
a 3/4 beat...you still the "Cha-Cha King" down at the tuesday
"Singles with Shingles" night in Quincy, Tedrick?
One -Two-Three....One-Two-Three....
How 'bout that cat from Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem?
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Mayhem.band.poster.jpg
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/61715/buddy_rich_vs_animal_drum_solos_on_the_muppet_show/
> You think Neil Pert could cut a 45 minute "Invitation" at 3am?
> Nah...this dope was back at the hotel, alone, with nothing more
> than his moustache curler and tattered copy of "Atlas Shrugged"
Take off, you hoser!
Ever hear of a dude named Billy Kreutzman? I thought not
Scot
It's also mentioned in a number of other google hits - I don't see any
reason not to believe Wikipedia as long as it's not something
controversial. Wikipedia also mentions that he turned down the drummer
job for ELP in 1970. ELM? ;-)
Also interesting is that it seems that Hendrix was looking to hook up
with ELP and had a jam session planned with them when he died...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson,_Lake_%26_Palmer#1970_to_1978
Sweets, I like you list just fine. Moon and Bruford would definitely be in
my top 2.
Now, why the hell did Hendrix replace MM with Buddy Miles?
> Sweets, I like you list just fine. Moon and Bruford would definitely be in
> my top 2.
Toss in Phil Collins.
> Now, why the hell did Hendrix replace MM with Buddy Miles?
Politics.
Fred
Jim Gordon
HRYK
Absolutely without a doubt my favorite rock 'n roll drummer of all
time. I am in awe every time I listen to "Derek and the Dominos
Live". The drum solo on "Let it Rain" is the only listenable drum
solo ever recorded IMHO, it is a singular piece of work. Too bad
about his mom but that dude could play. RIP Mitch, you sure could
play too.
So Jimi and Otis at Monterey would be less than twenty bucks.
http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=169
or the three-disc set would be less than fifty.
http://www.criterion.com/asp/boxed_set.asp?id=167
from Mitch Mitchell's obit on the Criterion blog:
"For the Monterey Pop Criterion release, we had a hell of a time
trying to re-create that huge drum sound from the studio records. The
great remote recordist at Monterey, Wally Heider, did a valiant job
just trying to get anything on tape. The seven-track master we had to
work with had mics being moved and repatched in the middle of songs.
Drums were an afterthought to the vocals and guitar, so legendary
engineer Eddie Kramer had to build much of the drum sound from bass
player Noel Redding’s open vocal mic!"