Live At The Cow Palace '76 - first Rhino release?
rcb30
Steve Hoffman forums, and a member in the UK pointed to this:
http://spincds.com/archives.asp?id=6443
"The Grateful Dead - 'Live At The Cow Palace...'
Due on January 15th, what appears to be the first release by Rhino
since they were handed the Grateful Dead vaults to manage. No other
details curently available other than the Title: 'Live At The Cow
Palace: New Years Eve 1976' and a price - £18.99. More soon."
If true, any release with a 22-min PITB, an 11:34 standalone Scarlet,
an H>S>NFA>Dew, and restores an UJB>AWBYGoodnight encore is OK by me.
Band Grateful Dead
Venue Cow Palace
Location Daly City, CA
Date 12/31/76 - Friday posters tickets, passes & laminates
One The Promised Land [4:00] ; [7:18] ; Bertha [6:23] ; Mama Tried
[2:50] ; They Love Each Other [6:45] ; Looks Like Rain [7:15] ; [1:11]
; Deal [5:21] % Playing In The Band [22:28]
Two Sugar Magnolia [8:30] (1) > Eyes Of The World [12:22] > Wharf Rat
[12:30] > Drums [1:21] > Good Lovin' [7:13] > Samson And Delilah [7:01]
% Scarlet Begonias [11:34] % Around And Around [7:59] % Help On The Way
[4:20] > Slipknot! [12:02] > Drums [0:50] > Not Fade Away [10:38] >
Morning Dew [14:38]
Encore One More Saturday Night [4:43] ; Uncle John's Band > And We Bid
You Good Night
Comments DeadBase lists soundcheck as River Deep Mountain High * (1)
{SugarMagnolia [5:24] ; [0:07] ; Sunshine Daydream [2:59] }
Recordings 190 FM-SB + A?. The complete show, except e2: Uncle John's
Band> And We Bid You Good Night, circulates In FM-SBD (broadcast On
KSAN-FM).The e2: Uncle John's Band > And We Bid You Good Night is
supplied by A goodAUD.
rcb
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"rcb30" <robert...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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http://spincds.com/archives.asp?id=6443
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That was the rumor going down on one of the bit-torrent sites ... this was
offered up, so I thought I should grab it:
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Grateful Dead
Cow Palace, Daly City, CA
December 31, 1976
Lineage: PreFMR (KSAN) > PCM > HHB CDR 800 master CD > Samsung SW-232B
extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification (shntool v1.01)
> .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1)
* from MAR (unknown equipment) > Reel > Beta HiFi > HHB CDR 800 master CD >
Samsung SW-232B extraction (EAC v0.9 beta 4) > sector boundary verification
(shntool v1.01) > .shn encoding (mkwACT v0.97 beta 1)
CD ONE
Set One
1 The Promised Land [5:08]
2 Bertha [7:03]
3 Mama Tried [3:32]
4 They Love Each Other [7:23]
5 Looks Like Rain [8:34]
6 Deal [6:02]
7 Playin' In The Band [23:21]
CD TWO
Set Two - begin
1 Sugar Magnolia [8:55] >
2 Eyes Of The World [12:47] >
3 Wharf Rat [12:47] >
4 Drums [1:14] >
5 Good Lovin' [7:12] >
6 Samson And Delilah [7:30]
7 Scarlet Begonias [12:09]
CD THREE
Set Two - end
1 Around And Around [8:13]
2 Help//On The Way [4:32] >
3 Slipknot! [12:13] >
4 Drums [0:38] >
5 Not Fade Away [11:16] >
6 Morning Dew [16:23]
Encore
7 One More Saturday Night [4:43]
8 Uncle John's Band* [8:19] >
9 And We Bid You Good Night* [3:23]
Seeded to tol 7/19/03 by Jack Warner
Source discs via Steven Martin (thanks!)
Note added 9/1/2003: Cool Edit 2000 was used to fix pops at the following
spots in Jack Warner's Pre-FM version of 12/31/76. I [Dave Winters]
re-encoded to shorten and generated new MD5's with MKW.
Loud pops were noticed at:
Slipknot! - 6:20
Dew - 4:50, 7:40, 7:50
Dave Winters - 08/16/03.
Chris
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rcb
Oh Praise the Lord! That is one of the sweetest Eyes right there...
Rupert
> As if people haven't had this show since it was played. Why not
> release something that is not widely circulated?
Yup. I remember there being giant video screens at my first show,
5/28/82. Never seen any video of that one, let alone a decent
soundboard. It was kind of a short show, so they'll probably never come
out with an official release, but it was a pretty killer set,
espiecally with Cippolina and Boz Skaggs.
Chris
"DG" <x...@xxxcast.net> wrote in message
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> rcb30 wrote:
>>
>>Spotted an "Any news about the Winterland box set?" thread over at
>>Steve Hoffman forums, and a member in the UK pointed to this:
>>
>>http://spincds.com/archives.asp?id=6443
>>
>>"The Grateful Dead - 'Live At The Cow Palace...'
>>Due on January 15th, what appears to be the first release by Rhino
>>since they were handed the Grateful Dead vaults to manage. No other
>>details curently available other than the Title: 'Live At The Cow
>>Palace: New Years Eve 1976' and a price - £18.99. More soon."
>
>
> release something that is not widely circulated?
>
>
>
>
its an FM source?
pbuzb...@yahoo.com
DG wrote:
> As if people haven't had this show since it was played. Why not
> release something that is not widely circulated?
The Uncle John's -> Goodnight encore has only circulated as an AUD.
And since it's a good show and one of the few multitracks from the 70's
not already released, it's a predictable pick.
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
marklaw
rcb30 wrote:
> Spotted an "Any news about the Winterland box set?" thread over at
> Steve Hoffman forums, and a member in the UK pointed to this:
>
> http://spincds.com/archives.asp?id=6443
>
> "The Grateful Dead - 'Live At The Cow Palace...'
I still have a bootleg vinyl LP of this show.
Randy G
DG wrote:
> As if people haven't had this show since it was played. Why not
> release something that is not widely circulated?
No kidding - this was one of my first cassettes back in the day, then
CD, etc.
I do remember Donna sounds really good on the Looks Like Rain - might
need to hear it again to verify though.
jwad...@yahoo.com
> As if people haven't had this show since it was played. Why not
> release something that is not widely circulated?
Uncirculated sub-par show or previously circulated quality upgrade -
that is the question.
It seems to me the uncirculated stuff (dick's picks 35 house boat tapes
for example) is not the best stuff. There is a reason that the heavily
circulated stuff is so - it's the best stuff. I think that if they
take the good performances (which 12/31/76 is {jams in Good Lovin and
transition into Samson for example}) and re-mix for superior sound
quality (as they did with Winterland 74 GD Movie stuff) then I will get
it. I had the big jam from 10-19-74 for years and years and think that
the re-mix on disc 4 of the soundtrack was worth every penny. I will
be getting this release as well even though I have had the pre-fm
source for decades. If you don't think the re-mix is worth the price
of admission, then stand out in the cold - I'm going in!
Brad Greer
>rcb30 wrote:
>>
>>Spotted an "Any news about the Winterland box set?" thread over at
>>Steve Hoffman forums, and a member in the UK pointed to this:
>>
>>http://spincds.com/archives.asp?id=6443
>>
>>"The Grateful Dead - 'Live At The Cow Palace...'
>>Due on January 15th, what appears to be the first release by Rhino
>>since they were handed the Grateful Dead vaults to manage. No other
>>details curently available other than the Title: 'Live At The Cow
>>Palace: New Years Eve 1976' and a price - £18.99. More soon."
>
>
>As if people haven't had this show since it was played. Why not
>release something that is not widely circulated?
>
Everybody had the Great American Music Hall show from '75 before One
From the Vault came out as well. It was widely circulated, I think
there was even a bootleg album available. The release blew away what
we already had.
This doesn't mean that a release of 12/31/76 will be better than
what's in circulation but I'm willing to wait to find out.
bongo
> The e2: Uncle John's Band > And We Bid You Good Night is
> supplied by A goodAUD.
Is there a good aud of this? The only one I've ever found is nearly
unlistenable.
That was a fun show. Only brutal note was Sons of Champlin not
showing up and being replaced by Soundhole. Yikes, they were
painful.
Santana's set was great.
Dead's Eyes Of The World and that second encore were as good
as it gets. Also Samson never sounded better than it does at this
laid back pace.
cheers,
--bongo
n9...@earthlink.net
Wow, that is early for video screens. I thought they didn't have any
until '87, for the Dylan/Dead tour. But I do have about half an hour of
video from 5/28/82 - email me if you want, Rupert . It is not menued
and chaptered, or with audio upgrade, so it is not the greatest, but
might be of interest since it was your first show. I haven't looked at
it in a bit, but as I recall the video has Truckin' and maybe GDTRFB
from set 2 , and a song or 2 from the Boz Scaggs sit-in.
The latest Relix (with Tenacious D, or something, on the cover) has a
not-so-revealing feature on the Rhino takeover of the vaults, and the
most specific they seem to be able to get is that the next release will
be a New Years' show, and I had the impression it would be audio and
video. Which leads me to think / hope it will be 12/31/89 - with the
killer Dark Star and the Big Bossman w/ Bonnie sittin' in....
JerryS
on tape untill recently. It doesn't bother me that it's a common tape
just like the fact that most of the other Dick's Picks and vault
releases are common shows(ie 2/13&14/70, 5/2/70, 12/26/79, Albany '90,
8/13/75, 9/27/72, 10/16/89, 8/7/82, 11/5/77,...well I guess you get the
point.
Joe
> Wow, that is early for video screens. I thought they didn't have any
> until '87, for the Dylan/Dead tour.
Back at Winterland, all shows were captured on video, and although they
weren't shown on a big video screen behind the band (like they are today),
the bar was on the 2nd floor with no view of the stage, so they broadcast
the videos in the bar.
I don't know for sure, but imagine all those videos are part of
"Wolfgang's Vault."
Speaking of which, there's now a restuarant on the first floor of the
condos where Winterland used to be, and it's called Winterland, and my
eyes just about bugged out of my head when I saw a blurb somewhere
recently for live music at Winterland.
Joe
Jperdue4
>The latest Relix (with Tenacious D, or something, on the cover) has a
>not-so-revealing feature on the Rhino takeover of the vaults, and the
>most specific they seem to be able to get is that the next release will
>be a New Years' show, and I had the impression it would be audio and
>video. Which leads me to think / hope it will be 12/31/89 - with the
>killer Dark Star and the Big Bossman w/ Bonnie sittin' in....
Oh PLEASE let it be the 12-31-90 show with Branford Marsalis. It
contains some of the hottest jamming they did since about 1969.
jonP
JerryS
taping conpendium volume one there's a section on what exests and
doesn't from people who know what's in the vault. In fact, they don't
even have the outtakes from the closing of the fillmore. All of 7-2-71
was filmed, but after the film was put together, the film crew tried to
give the rest back. First to Bill Graham and then to the Dead. No one
wanted to store it so it was thrown out. Most of what they found in
Bill Graham Productions vault was different odd footage from security
cams. The video feeds didn't start in '87 but in '84 and it's basic
from outdoor concert video feed. There are some videos from the early
days but not much. Those were usually done for specific reasons.
On Nov 1, 7:15 am, Jperdue4 <Jperd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2006 13:26:16 -0800, n...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >The latest Relix (with Tenacious D, or something, on the cover) has a
> >not-so-revealing feature on the Rhino takeover of the vaults, and the
> >most specific they seem to be able to get is that the next release will
> >be a New Years' show, and I had the impression it would be audio and
> >video. Which leads me to think / hope it will be 12/31/89 - with the
> >killer Dark Star and the Big Bossman w/ Bonnie sittin' in....Oh PLEASE let it be the 12-31-90 show with Branford Marsalis. It
Carlisle
Hotter than 1984? Get outta here, man!
I loved those "Branford" shows...he made tunes like Bird Song and Eyes
even better.
All good things,
Carrie
LP
Hell yes - I went to the NYE '90 run and although I was feeling the
absence of Brent Mydland, the combo of Hornsby and Branford really
brought some professionalism to the stage. It was apparent that the
Dead were on their "best behavior" with their guests onstage.
A very good night, that 12/31/90.
LP
band beyond description
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as were some of the Fall 1990 Europe shows I saw; I was surprised and happy
they could get it together that rapidly to still pull off that tour after
Brent's death. too bad Bruce decided to leave so soon afterward.
Pepe Papon
wrote:
Yeah, 12/31/90 was a monumental Dead show for that era of the band.
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