Lou Dobbs for President!
ML
Just heard it, but apparently he announced it
on Fred Thompson's show.
What will he run as, party-wise,
any chance of a Dobbs/Palin R ticket,
which I'm thinking would give us a good edge
again? Educate me, all I know is he's whacked-out.
octoad
"ML" <mary.eg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:96b1a301-f4b2-4853...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
If he does run he has zero chance.
He used to be a respected business journalist, then realized he could
increase his low ratings by going all demagogic on immigration. He could
run as a Republican, but since the big money and big campaign operative
folks have no reason to back him, he'd be just another Ron Paul-like novelty
in their primaries.
I would guess that if he does run it will be as an independent, so he can
pretend to be the voice of the average person who is sick of both parties.
But no independent who doesn't have about a trillion dollars of his own
money to spend has a snowball's chance in hell. Ballot requirements are
stacked against all independent candidates, they vary wildly from state to
state, only a Ross Perot could afford to pay for all the rigamorole needed
just to get his name on the ballot everywhere and still have money left over
to campaign with. Usually presidential indies are about tapped out after
all the ballot access BS.
Then there's that Latino population, who wouldn't vote for this guy if he
was the last man on earth, and you can't lose literally ALL of the latino
vote and have any sort of chance.
Dobbs would be mostly entertainment value; but if he ran as an indie he
could siphon a few votes away from Mitt Romney in his race vs. Obama.
O
Ray O'Hara
"octoad" <dav...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:hek15...@news3.newsguy.com...
any Indipendent faces the same problem if ever elected.
no friendly party to sustain him.
a President at least needs enough friends in congress to sustain a veto.
that last successful third party, the Republicans, started by running men
for congress. only after then got seats there did they run a man for
president.
today all these other "3rd parties" just run for the top and do nothing at
the local level.
JimK
wrote:
Jeez, the Republicans could be fun in 2012! Can you just imagine a
primary debate that includes Palin, Dobbs, Beck, Jindal, Gingrich and
Huckabee?
JimK
3jane.
> primary debate that includes Palin, Dobbs, Beck, Jindal, Gingrich and
> Huckabee?
We can only wish.
bzl...@aaool.com
wrote:
>
>"ML" <mary.eg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:96b1a301-f4b2-4853...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> Okay I've stopped laughing but I'm still smiling.
>> Just heard it, but apparently he announced it
>> on Fred Thompson's show.
>> What will he run as, party-wise,
>> any chance of a Dobbs/Palin R ticket,
>> which I'm thinking would give us a good edge
>> again? Educate me, all I know is he's whacked-out.
>
>If he does run he has zero chance.
>
>He used to be a respected business journalist, then realized he could
>increase his low ratings by going all demagogic on immigration. He could
>run as a Republican, but since the big money and big campaign operative
>folks have no reason to back him, he'd be just another Ron Paul-like novelty
>in their primaries.
>
>I would guess that if he does run it will be as an independent, so he can
>pretend to be the voice of the average person who is sick of both parties.
He's just an old grouch who hates everybody. Maybe he could form the
"I Hate You" party.
Walter Karmazyn
Add MSNBC's "morning" Joe Scarborough who it was reported on
politico.com back in September as having been approached by some major
donors and GOP strategists.
W
JimK
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:39:34 -0800, "octoad" <dav...@sonic.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"ML" <mary.eg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:96b1a301-f4b2-4853...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Okay I've stopped laughing but I'm still smiling.
>>> Just heard it, but apparently he announced it
>>> on Fred Thompson's show.
>>> What will he run as, party-wise,
>>> any chance of a Dobbs/Palin R ticket,
>>> which I'm thinking would give us a good edge
>>> again? Educate me, all I know is he's whacked-out.
>>
>>If he does run he has zero chance.
>>
>>He used to be a respected business journalist, then realized he could
>>increase his low ratings by going all demagogic on immigration. He could
>>run as a Republican, but since the big money and big campaign operative
>>folks have no reason to back him, he'd be just another Ron Paul-like novelty
>>in their primaries.
>>
>>I would guess that if he does run it will be as an independent, so he can
>>pretend to be the voice of the average person who is sick of both parties.
>
>He's just an old grouch who hates everybody. Maybe he could form the
>"I Hate You" party.
>
<snip>
There already is one, although they usually call it the Republican
Party.
JimK
Steve Terry
I thought the Repubs were the "I hate you and want you dead" party.
sacha
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:39:34 -0800, "octoad" <davk...@sonic.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"ML" <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
and maybe Limbaugh?
Ray O'Hara
"Walter Karmazyn" <walterk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7n5pj1F...@mid.individual.net...
Joe unlike the others mentioned in this thread is a rational adult.
the felonious kidd
> Jeez, the Republicans could be fun in 2012! Can you just imagine a
> primary debate that includes Palin, Dobbs, Beck, Jindal, Gingrich and
> Huckabee?
>
> JimK
You forgot the guy with the weed whacker, what was his name? You know
the one with the make-you-want-to-puke clean-cut kids and the dream of
having multiple wives. Ah, never mind, I'm glad you forgot him.
JimK
He'd be the sane one in that group.
JimK
Walter Karmazyn
Which is probably why he's been approached. Obama would have to fuck up
super royal for any of the one you mentioned above (or Dobbs) to have a
chance, imo. If Obama were in that much trouble come 2012, I think he'd
step aside.
W
JimK
<walterk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
He's looking mighty vulnerable right now. If the Republicans had a
viable candidate, and I can't think of any, he'd have more than a bit
of a struggle if the election was any time soon. Of course, it's not
and much can and will happen between now and 2012.
I know we're joking about it, but the Republican primary could really
be a hoot given the current state of affairs in the GOP. The
ultra-right wing attack dogs will almost certainly preclude any chance
of the party winning the general election by making it impossible for
any kind of moderate/centrist conservative to survive the primary.
JimK
Ray O'Hara
"JimK" <jkez...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:m14sg59jknh3fv25e...@4ax.com...
is he looking vulnerable? or is the press trying to make it seem like that.
I think the later.
the Repubnots are conducting a massive campaign of negativity and it is
having somre effect, but not enough to win them the white house in 2012.
ML
> >news:96b1a301-f4b2-4853...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >> Okay I've stopped laughing but I'm still smiling.
> >> Just heard it, but apparently he announced it
> >> on Fred Thompson's show.
> >> What will he run as, party-wise,
> >> any chance of a Dobbs/Palin R ticket,
> >> which I'm thinking would give us a good edge
> >> again? Educate me, all I know is he's whacked-out.
On Nov 25, 4:20 pm, bzl...@aaool.com wrote:
> He's just an old grouch who hates everybody. Maybe he could form the
> "I Hate You" party.
Theme song, Groucho Marx's "Whatever It Is,
I'm Against It" from Horse Feathers.
ML
<everybody's.d...@that.rag.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-26 04:13:16 +0900, ML <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > Just heard it, but apparently he announced it
> > on Fred Thompson's show.
>
> --
> Peace,
> Steve
Yep!
J.C. Martin
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:26:29 -0800, Walter Karmazyn
>
>
>
> <walterkarma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >JimK wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:31:50 -0800, Walter Karmazyn
> >> <walterkarma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> JimK wrote:
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> "ML" <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I think Romney is a pretty viable candidate, particularly in this
economic climate. Despite his Mormon background, people are willing
to overlook that as long as they can beat Obama, who is seen as the
Antichrist by many on the right. I also think he's ultimately going
to win the Republican nomination. The right wing fringe is loud, but
historically the party has tended to go with the most, or at least 2nd
most, socially centrist candidate. I don't think Palin is actually
going to run at this point either. She's all about the Benjamins.
She also doesn't have many friends inside the beltway, so if she ran
at all with any seriousness, she'd have to run as an independent or
libertarian.
And yes, I think Obama will have to put up with a serious challenge
three years from now. All the Palin, Beck, Dobbs talk is noise IMO.
As usual, the Republican Party will placate the fringe with promises
and more promises, and the loony right will find comfort that someone
in Washington is standing up for their values...wink, wink.
-JC
JimK
Romney has a few problems that will be tough to overcome. One is that
by 2012 he'll have been out of the spotlight for a long time. I
suppose in some ways that might be viewed as an advantage with the
general distaste for elected officials these days, but I think it will
hurt him on balance. I think that the Mormon thing is going to really
hurt him because of the growing intolerance within the Republican
party for anybody who's not like them. His Wall St. background is also
going to be a big negative.
I tend to agree about Palin not running, but she's such a whack job
wild card, who really knows what she'll do? She might just run for the
attention even if she knows she can't win. The woman loves being on a
stage.
>And yes, I think Obama will have to put up with a serious challenge
>three years from now. All the Palin, Beck, Dobbs talk is noise IMO.
>As usual, the Republican Party will placate the fringe with promises
>and more promises, and the loony right will find comfort that someone
>in Washington is standing up for their values...wink, wink.
>
>-JC
If things don't work out with health care, the wars and the economy,
he'll have a tough go of it even if the Republicans have a relatively
weak candidate.
JimK