On Saturday, April 7, 2012 7:12:27 AM UTC-4, dr.narcolepsy wrote:
> On Friday, April 6, 2012 1:34:41 AM UTC-4, Neil X. wrote:
> > As for tonight, there were some real highlights, but it was uneven.
> > Unsurprising, I guess. They opened with Playin' into Crazy FIngers,
> > and both of those were mesemerizing. Later on in the set, songs like
> > Black Throated Wind and Built to Last were a bit plodding. The Hell
> > in a Bucket closer was supercharged. Far better than most GD versions
> > I was exposed to back in the day. High, high energy.
> > Set 2 had plenty of highlights. The St. Stephen opener had a 10 minute
> > jam before the final verse that was just sick, really amazing. UJB >
> > King Solomon's Marbles was a total hoot as well. But then, Bobby
> > singing Black Peter was subdued and almost somnolent. Then the
> > Shakedown closer was 15 min. of wicked fun. Really great upper of a
> > song. After that, the NFA closer was pleasing nostalgia. The Liberty
> > encore was suprpisingly hot. Fake Jerry really jammed out on
> > Liberty. Sounds weird to contemplate, but there ya go.
I enjoyed the "opening jam" discussion - sometimes I think those opening jams sequences - the better ones - are really fantastic listening experiences. I should think about making a Phil/Furthur opening jam compilation.
On Friday, April 6, 2012 6:24:59 PM UTC-4, edwin wrote:
> I love that room. Saw a couple of shows there in the 76 and 78 that were > really wonderful. Of course, Jerry was pretty young then and Weir was > still in his twenties for the first one.
> Wang, they might call it now, but it will always be The Music Hall to me.
> Have fun!
> Edwin
Actually, it's not really the Wang anymore, either. Most stuff nowadays seems to call it rather generically "CitiCenter".
There goes a good pun, too. We used to say "I was playing racquetball the other day & I caught one right in the Wang Center".
Mission accomplished. Friday's show was a total blast. Too much fun,
I had to give some back.
Furthur
Wang Center
Boston, MA 4/6/12
Set One:
Foolish Heart
Dupree's Diamond Blues
Estimated Prophet
It Must Have Been The Roses
Just A Little Light
Feel Like A Stranger >
Viola Lee Blues
Set Two:
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Jack Straw >
Mountains Of The Moon >
Mason's Children >
Dark Star >
Let It Grow >
Dark Star >
Throwing Stones >
Passenger
Morning Dew
Encore:
Box Of Rain
Foolish Heart has never been one of my favorite songs, but they nailed
this version of it. OTOH, Estimated is a song I love, and it was the
weakest song in the first set. There you go, you don't ever know.
Friday found us in good spirits, a day off of work and 2 more shows to
contemplate. And the Friday show at the Wang did not disappoint. The
songs that you might suspect weren't so good, really weren't so good
(e.g. Just a Little Light, Dear Mr. Fantasy). They should never, ever
play Dear Mr. Fantasy again. Pining for Brent, we were.
The second set was really hot throughout. DS > LIG > DS was every bit
as much fun as you might imagine it was. Bobby really does sing
better now than he did in Ratdog, perhaps he's cut back on doing some
things that were negatively affecting his performances. IDK, but he's
been remarkably sharper than previously, both last winter's tour and
this one. Nice Throwin' Stones, Let It Grow. Though Estimated wasn't
good, as I mentioned. Very subdued, this song should not be mellow.
Viola Lee is always a highlight for me, and while no one wails on it
as good as Warren did, back when he was in the Quintet and the Dead,
it is still one of my favorite songs to experience in concert. Phil's
bass is so strong on songs like this and Shakedown. That old man can
wield a bass, no doubt about it. He really can't sing, though. He
used to be really bad, got incrementally better with a lot of voice
lessons, but now he really should never sing anymore. Box of Rain was
hard to listen to. I can't imagine what he will be sounding like
after a month on tour.
So bottom line is that we had a total blast on Friday, and this night
was definitely the strongest of the 3 nights I saw. We had a lot of
fun in Connecticut, too, but that show was the weakest one of the
set. I may post a bit about that later on, but it was more about the
experience than the music, in Wallingford. The hotel we stayed in (a
Hilton) was completely jammed with Deadheads. My wife got up early
(she ALWAYS gets up early, even after a late show) and was going to
take a soak in the jacuzzi. But there were a bunch of Deadheads
filling it up, sitting there drinking Sam Adams. Clearly they had
never been to bed, despite the fact it was 8 AM.
I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
No lines for bathrooms, either guys or girls, no more than 1-2 min.
wait for a drink. Full bar, good stiff pours, comfy seats.
Everything is nice about Oakdale, except for the fact it's in the
middle of no place. I love venues with hotels within walking
distance. No chance of that at Oakdale.
On Apr 8, 5:12 pm, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
but it was more about the experience than the music, in Wallingford.
.
.
.
Isn't that what it's all about?
I should Part of what it's all about.
If one isn't good maybe you can make it up on "the other one".
booie..............
ps.
This is getting me itching for the beacon.
I have no ticket but I am curious as to what can happen.
But as Neil said , it was more about the experience than the music, in
Wallingford.
pps.
I thought that Estimated Prophet was kick ass.
They are just trying to mix it up.
Just a different version I guess.
Just to show you they are not rehashing old songs,
Just serving it with a little twist.
For people that have heard these songs many times over.
"Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
> adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
> Peace,
> Neil X.
Please...you have a job, wife and 3 small children back
in amherst...stop this nonsense and go home.
On Apr 8, 7:27 pm, "sweetbac" <sweet...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
> > adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
> > Peace,
> > Neil X.
> Please...you have a job, wife and 3 small children back
> in amherst...stop this nonsense and go home.
"3 small children back in Amherst"...........
<gulp>
If you don't have DNA data, I call bullshit. It was only one night.
Granted, I really don't remember the details, but there's no way that
ALL of them got pregnant.
> On Saturday, April 7, 2012 7:12:27 AM UTC-4, dr.narcolepsy wrote:
> > On Friday, April 6, 2012 1:34:41 AM UTC-4, Neil X. wrote:
> > > As for tonight, there were some real highlights, but it was uneven.
> > > Unsurprising, I guess. They opened with Playin' into Crazy FIngers,
> > > and both of those were mesemerizing. Later on in the set, songs like
> > > Black Throated Wind and Built to Last were a bit plodding. The Hell
> > > in a Bucket closer was supercharged. Far better than most GD versions
> > > I was exposed to back in the day. High, high energy.
> > > Set 2 had plenty of highlights. The St. Stephen opener had a 10 minute
> > > jam before the final verse that was just sick, really amazing. UJB >
> > > King Solomon's Marbles was a total hoot as well. But then, Bobby
> > > singing Black Peter was subdued and almost somnolent. Then the
> > > Shakedown closer was 15 min. of wicked fun. Really great upper of a
> > > song. After that, the NFA closer was pleasing nostalgia. The Liberty
> > > encore was suprpisingly hot. Fake Jerry really jammed out on
> > > Liberty. Sounds weird to contemplate, but there ya go.
> I enjoyed the "opening jam" discussion - sometimes I think those opening jams sequences - the better ones - are really fantastic listening experiences. I should think about making a Phil/Furthur opening jam compilation.
I think I understand what you're talking about, but what I wrote above
was about a jam in the latter half of St. Stephen, which I don't think
is what you are referencing here. The opening jams as P&F shows are
what you're talking about, no? That's not what I meant in this case.
The GD would often dive off of the deep end before the final verse of
St. Stephen and go way deep into creative improv/chaos. This jam was
in the same slot, before the final verse of St. Stephen. Not at the
beginning of the set before any structure of setlist occurred.
"Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f0ae3bfc-1d68-4a06-8d0f-
> If you don't have DNA data, I call bullshit.
> It was only one night.
> Peace,
> Neil X.
The ink on your divorce isn't dry yet and you
go on a goddamn Further tour?
You see your children on weekends -- You know your oldest boy, Esau X, was picked up in Dedham
for some petty theft that you don't even know about--
You drive around the east coast with women who don't even care
about you, and use you like a whore!
Neil - X, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil -- I wanna be reasonable with you.
Now, why don't you stay in Amherst- with the family.
You can live there on the campus with your kids.
You won't be deprived of anything and you can have everything you want.
Now -- I don't know this band -- I don't know what Bobby Weir is thinking...
I don't know what the Garcia clone sounds like.
Now why don't you tell Lesh that future touring is out of the question,
and you don't want to see/listen him anymore.
Now he'll understand, believe me.
> "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f0ae3bfc-1d68-4a06-8d0f-
> > If you don't have DNA data, I call bullshit.
> > It was only one night.
> > Peace,
> > Neil X.
> The ink on your divorce isn't dry yet and you
> go on a goddamn Further tour?
> You see your children on weekends --
> You know your oldest boy, Esau X, was picked up in Dedham
> for some petty theft that you don't even know about--
> You drive around the east coast with women who don't even care
> about you, and use you like a whore!
> Neil - X, Neil, Neil, Neil, Neil --
> I wanna be reasonable with you.
> Now, why don't you stay in Amherst- with the family.
> You can live there on the campus with your kids.
> s.
> Now -- I don't know this band --
> I don't know what Bobby Weir is thinking...
> I don't know what the Garcia clone sounds like.
> Now why don't you tell Lesh that future touring is out of the question,
> and you don't want to see/listen him anymore.
> Now he'll understand, believe me.
Huh. There is so much to say here that maybe it would be better to
say nothing. But this is usenet. Saying nothing is not an option.
I am completely in agreement with the idea that "You won't be
deprived of anything and you can have everything you want." That
thesis is the operating principle of my existence.
As for " You drive around the east coast with women who don't even
care about you, and use you like a whore", well good Lord, I really
wish you were inaccurate, but what can I say? Yeah, there is a new
generation of youngsters who attend post-Jerry Dead-like shows, and
they are social and they are friendly. It wouldn't be gentlemanly to
say more. But damn. 21st century American women rock.
Truly refreshing 3 nights of Furthurness. Perpetu-grins all around.
>Mission accomplished. Friday's show was a total blast. Too much fun,
>I had to give some back.
>Furthur
>Wang Center
>Boston, MA 4/6/12
>Set One:
>Foolish Heart
>Dupree's Diamond Blues
>Estimated Prophet
>It Must Have Been The Roses
>Just A Little Light
>Feel Like A Stranger >
>Viola Lee Blues
>Set Two:
>Dear Mr. Fantasy
>Jack Straw >
>Mountains Of The Moon >
>Mason's Children >
>Dark Star >
>Let It Grow >
>Dark Star >
>Throwing Stones >
>Passenger
>Morning Dew
>Encore:
>Box Of Rain
>Foolish Heart has never been one of my favorite songs, but they nailed
>this version of it. OTOH, Estimated is a song I love, and it was the
>weakest song in the first set. There you go, you don't ever know.
>Friday found us in good spirits, a day off of work and 2 more shows to
>contemplate. And the Friday show at the Wang did not disappoint. The
>songs that you might suspect weren't so good, really weren't so good
>(e.g. Just a Little Light, Dear Mr. Fantasy). They should never, ever
>play Dear Mr. Fantasy again. Pining for Brent, we were.
>The second set was really hot throughout. DS > LIG > DS was every bit
>as much fun as you might imagine it was. Bobby really does sing
>better now than he did in Ratdog, perhaps he's cut back on doing some
>things that were negatively affecting his performances. IDK, but he's
>been remarkably sharper than previously, both last winter's tour and
>this one. Nice Throwin' Stones, Let It Grow. Though Estimated wasn't
>good, as I mentioned. Very subdued, this song should not be mellow.
>Viola Lee is always a highlight for me, and while no one wails on it
>as good as Warren did, back when he was in the Quintet and the Dead,
>it is still one of my favorite songs to experience in concert. Phil's
>bass is so strong on songs like this and Shakedown. That old man can
>wield a bass, no doubt about it. He really can't sing, though. He
>used to be really bad, got incrementally better with a lot of voice
>lessons, but now he really should never sing anymore. Box of Rain was
>hard to listen to. I can't imagine what he will be sounding like
>after a month on tour.
>So bottom line is that we had a total blast on Friday, and this night
>was definitely the strongest of the 3 nights I saw. We had a lot of
>fun in Connecticut, too, but that show was the weakest one of the
>set. I may post a bit about that later on, but it was more about the
>experience than the music, in Wallingford. The hotel we stayed in (a
>Hilton) was completely jammed with Deadheads. My wife got up early
>(she ALWAYS gets up early, even after a late show) and was going to
>take a soak in the jacuzzi. But there were a bunch of Deadheads
>filling it up, sitting there drinking Sam Adams. Clearly they had
>never been to bed, despite the fact it was 8 AM.
>I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
>adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
>No lines for bathrooms, either guys or girls, no more than 1-2 min.
>wait for a drink. Full bar, good stiff pours, comfy seats.
>Everything is nice about Oakdale, except for the fact it's in the
>middle of no place. I love venues with hotels within walking
>distance. No chance of that at Oakdale.
>Peace,
>Neil X.
Thanks for the write-up. A friend of mine gave me similar reviews,
except he absolutely the vibe at Oakdale. "Worst Furthur show ever"
is what he said. The band was struggling to get anything going, the
crowd was annoying, and the venue turned off the video screens in the
smoking lounge during the second set (or so he said). I rather like
the place.
Dave's thoughts on Boston were nearly identical to yours, esp.
regarding the Stephen jam.
-------
Estimated is a complete waste of time with Furthur, imo. They've
ruined it. It's supposed to be "evil" and raunchy but it ain't that,
no more.
> >Mission accomplished. Friday's show was a total blast. Too much fun,
> >I had to give some back.
> >Furthur
> >Wang Center
> >Boston, MA 4/6/12
> >Set One:
> >Foolish Heart
> >Dupree's Diamond Blues
> >Estimated Prophet
> >It Must Have Been The Roses
> >Just A Little Light
> >Feel Like A Stranger >
> >Viola Lee Blues
> >Set Two:
> >Dear Mr. Fantasy
> >Jack Straw >
> >Mountains Of The Moon >
> >Mason's Children >
> >Dark Star >
> >Let It Grow >
> >Dark Star >
> >Throwing Stones >
> >Passenger
> >Morning Dew
> >Encore:
> >Box Of Rain
> >Foolish Heart has never been one of my favorite songs, but they nailed
> >this version of it. OTOH, Estimated is a song I love, and it was the
> >weakest song in the first set. There you go, you don't ever know.
> >Friday found us in good spirits, a day off of work and 2 more shows to
> >contemplate. And the Friday show at the Wang did not disappoint. The
> >songs that you might suspect weren't so good, really weren't so good
> >(e.g. Just a Little Light, Dear Mr. Fantasy). They should never, ever
> >play Dear Mr. Fantasy again. Pining for Brent, we were.
> >The second set was really hot throughout. DS > LIG > DS was every bit
> >as much fun as you might imagine it was. Bobby really does sing
> >better now than he did in Ratdog, perhaps he's cut back on doing some
> >things that were negatively affecting his performances. IDK, but he's
> >been remarkably sharper than previously, both last winter's tour and
> >this one. Nice Throwin' Stones, Let It Grow. Though Estimated wasn't
> >good, as I mentioned. Very subdued, this song should not be mellow.
> >Viola Lee is always a highlight for me, and while no one wails on it
> >as good as Warren did, back when he was in the Quintet and the Dead,
> >it is still one of my favorite songs to experience in concert. Phil's
> >bass is so strong on songs like this and Shakedown. That old man can
> >wield a bass, no doubt about it. He really can't sing, though. He
> >used to be really bad, got incrementally better with a lot of voice
> >lessons, but now he really should never sing anymore. Box of Rain was
> >hard to listen to. I can't imagine what he will be sounding like
> >after a month on tour.
> >So bottom line is that we had a total blast on Friday, and this night
> >was definitely the strongest of the 3 nights I saw. We had a lot of
> >fun in Connecticut, too, but that show was the weakest one of the
> >set. I may post a bit about that later on, but it was more about the
> >experience than the music, in Wallingford. The hotel we stayed in (a
> >Hilton) was completely jammed with Deadheads. My wife got up early
> >(she ALWAYS gets up early, even after a late show) and was going to
> >take a soak in the jacuzzi. But there were a bunch of Deadheads
> >filling it up, sitting there drinking Sam Adams. Clearly they had
> >never been to bed, despite the fact it was 8 AM.
> >I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
> >adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
> >No lines for bathrooms, either guys or girls, no more than 1-2 min.
> >wait for a drink. Full bar, good stiff pours, comfy seats.
> >Everything is nice about Oakdale, except for the fact it's in the
> >middle of no place. I love venues with hotels within walking
> >distance. No chance of that at Oakdale.
> >Peace,
> >Neil X.
> Thanks for the write-up. A friend of mine gave me similar reviews,
> except he absolutely the vibe at Oakdale. "Worst Furthur show ever"
> is what he said. The band was struggling to get anything going, the
> crowd was annoying, and the venue turned off the video screens in the
> smoking lounge during the second set (or so he said). I rather like
> the place.
> Dave's thoughts on Boston were nearly identical to yours, esp.
> regarding the Stephen jam.
> -------
> Estimated is a complete waste of time with Furthur, imo. They've
> ruined it. It's supposed to be "evil" and raunchy but it ain't that,
> no more.
Well, my comment on Oakdale was that it was the weakest show of the
triad that I saw, so that is not really in disagreement with what your
friend wrote. The venue itself is nice. I didn't hang around the
smoking lounge, don't know about that. But there is nothing not to
like about the Theater. No waiting for bathrooms, no waiting for beer
or cocktails, good sight lines, good sound.
On Apr 9, 12:01 pm, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I'm done with this tour.
Peace,
Neil X.
.
.
What a shame, they are just starting to get warmed up?
I might be peaking @ The Beacon tonite?
Opening night in NYC?
Monday?
Nothing to do tonight?
No ticket in hand, yet.
>> >Mission accomplished. Friday's show was a total blast. Too much fun,
>> >I had to give some back.
>> >Furthur
>> >Wang Center
>> >Boston, MA 4/6/12
>> >Set One:
>> >Foolish Heart
>> >Dupree's Diamond Blues
>> >Estimated Prophet
>> >It Must Have Been The Roses
>> >Just A Little Light
>> >Feel Like A Stranger >
>> >Viola Lee Blues
>> >Set Two:
>> >Dear Mr. Fantasy
>> >Jack Straw >
>> >Mountains Of The Moon >
>> >Mason's Children >
>> >Dark Star >
>> >Let It Grow >
>> >Dark Star >
>> >Throwing Stones >
>> >Passenger
>> >Morning Dew
>> >Encore:
>> >Box Of Rain
>> >Foolish Heart has never been one of my favorite songs, but they nailed
>> >this version of it. OTOH, Estimated is a song I love, and it was the
>> >weakest song in the first set. There you go, you don't ever know.
>> >Friday found us in good spirits, a day off of work and 2 more shows to
>> >contemplate. And the Friday show at the Wang did not disappoint. The
>> >songs that you might suspect weren't so good, really weren't so good
>> >(e.g. Just a Little Light, Dear Mr. Fantasy). They should never, ever
>> >play Dear Mr. Fantasy again. Pining for Brent, we were.
>> >The second set was really hot throughout. DS > LIG > DS was every bit
>> >as much fun as you might imagine it was. Bobby really does sing
>> >better now than he did in Ratdog, perhaps he's cut back on doing some
>> >things that were negatively affecting his performances. IDK, but he's
>> >been remarkably sharper than previously, both last winter's tour and
>> >this one. Nice Throwin' Stones, Let It Grow. Though Estimated wasn't
>> >good, as I mentioned. Very subdued, this song should not be mellow.
>> >Viola Lee is always a highlight for me, and while no one wails on it
>> >as good as Warren did, back when he was in the Quintet and the Dead,
>> >it is still one of my favorite songs to experience in concert. Phil's
>> >bass is so strong on songs like this and Shakedown. That old man can
>> >wield a bass, no doubt about it. He really can't sing, though. He
>> >used to be really bad, got incrementally better with a lot of voice
>> >lessons, but now he really should never sing anymore. Box of Rain was
>> >hard to listen to. I can't imagine what he will be sounding like
>> >after a month on tour.
>> >So bottom line is that we had a total blast on Friday, and this night
>> >was definitely the strongest of the 3 nights I saw. We had a lot of
>> >fun in Connecticut, too, but that show was the weakest one of the
>> >set. I may post a bit about that later on, but it was more about the
>> >experience than the music, in Wallingford. The hotel we stayed in (a
>> >Hilton) was completely jammed with Deadheads. My wife got up early
>> >(she ALWAYS gets up early, even after a late show) and was going to
>> >take a soak in the jacuzzi. But there were a bunch of Deadheads
>> >filling it up, sitting there drinking Sam Adams. Clearly they had
>> >never been to bed, despite the fact it was 8 AM.
>> >I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
>> >adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
>> >No lines for bathrooms, either guys or girls, no more than 1-2 min.
>> >wait for a drink. Full bar, good stiff pours, comfy seats.
>> >Everything is nice about Oakdale, except for the fact it's in the
>> >middle of no place. I love venues with hotels within walking
>> >distance. No chance of that at Oakdale.
>> >Peace,
>> >Neil X.
>> Thanks for the write-up. A friend of mine gave me similar reviews,
>> except he absolutely the vibe at Oakdale. "Worst Furthur show ever"
>> is what he said. The band was struggling to get anything going, the
>> crowd was annoying, and the venue turned off the video screens in the
>> smoking lounge during the second set (or so he said). I rather like
>> the place.
>> Dave's thoughts on Boston were nearly identical to yours, esp.
>> regarding the Stephen jam.
>> -------
>> Estimated is a complete waste of time with Furthur, imo. They've
>> ruined it. It's supposed to be "evil" and raunchy but it ain't that,
>> no more.
>Well, my comment on Oakdale was that it was the weakest show of the
>triad that I saw, so that is not really in disagreement with what your
>friend wrote. The venue itself is nice. I didn't hang around the
>smoking lounge, don't know about that. But there is nothing not to
>like about the Theater. No waiting for bathrooms, no waiting for beer
>or cocktails, good sight lines, good sound.
>Peace,
>Neil X.
Well, traffic getting in and out can be a bitch....have to arrive
early (or just before show time sometimes works) and split before the
encore. Security is also pretty tough on tokers. And the crowd can
tend to be overly laid back, maybe because the general comfort level
is so high. But yes, all things considered, a very nice
venue....although I do still miss the old theater in the round from
the old days. Now that was something totally different from just about
any other venue I've been to.
> > > >> > > "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > > ...
> > > >> > > > So I'm about to bag out of work and head downtown to see the
> > > >> > > > first of > 3 consecutive Furthur shows, 2 at Boston's Wang Center
> > > >> > > > and one down at Oakdale Theater in Wallingford, CT.
> > > >> > > > Peace,
> > > >> > > > Neil X.
> > > >> > > Oh good god!....now see here, X....I can understand
> > > >> > > sitting around the pub talking about going to something
> > > >> > > like this.....have a few more pints and move onto another
> > > >> > > topic...but to actually BUY tickets...and get in the car...
> > > >> > > and actually GO to something like this baffles me to
> > > >> > > NO end...I have about as much interest in a Grateful Dead
> > > >> > > cover band than I do the Ice Capades...OK...OK...
> > > >> > > I can dig the Boston gig...ya LIVE there...but you're....
> > > >> > > let me get this straight...you're crossing state lines to
> > > >> > > attend this nostalgia fest?...this makes the Mann Act seem
> > > >> > > like taking an extra curry chicken finger puff pastry from
> > > >> > > the free sample station down at Costco...
> > > >> > > Whats next for ya, X?... standing in line to get Rico Petrocellis
> > > >> > > autograph at the that new hardware stores grand opening in
> > > >> > > Dedham?...is this what it's come to, baby?
> > > >> > > No....I shant read your cries for help from the enormo-dome
> > > >> > > in Wallington?...Wellington?...home of such innovations as
> > > >> > > "Greek pizza" and the nations first pay toilet at the
> > > >> > > Ralph "Whitey" Tropiano memorial rest stop out on route 14A.
> > > >> > > I need a drink.
> > > >> > Yep, crossing state lines, to the Hegemony of Connecticut. On the
> > > >> > way, we will visit a great brewpub in Hartford (City Steam Brasserie
> > > >> > Brewpub) and an even better NY Jewish-style Deli (Rein's.) 'Twill be
> > > >> > an enjoyable experience.
> > > >> > As for tonight, there were some real highlights, but it was uneven.
> > > >> > Unsurprising, I guess. They opened with Playin' into Crazy FIngers,
> > > >> > and both of those were mesemerizing. Later on in the set, songs like
> > > >> > Black Throated Wind and Built to Last were a bit plodding. The Hell
> > > >> > in a Bucket closer was supercharged. Far better than most GD versions
> > > >> > I was exposed to back in the day. High, high energy.
> > > >> > Friends of ours sitting in the back complained that they couldn't
> > > >> > hear, it wasn't loud enough. Hope they fix that tomorrow, as I am
> > > >> > sitting much farther away on Fri.
> > > >> > Set 2 had plenty of highlights. The St. Stephen opener had a 10 minute
> > > >> > jam before the final verse that was just sick, really amazing. UJB >
> > > >> > King Solomon's Marbles was a total hoot as well. But then, Bobby
> > > >> > singing Black Peter was subdued and almost somnolent. Then the
> > > >> > Shakedown closer was 15 min. of wicked fun. Really great upper of a
> > > >> > song. After that, the NFA closer was pleasing nostalgia. The Liberty
> > > >> > encore was suprpisingly hot. Fake Jerry really jammed out on
> > > >> > Liberty. Sounds weird to contemplate, but there ya go.
> > > >> > As I said, mixed bag, but the good moments were really, really fun.
> > > >> > Furthur
> > > >> > Wang Center
> > > >> > Boston, MA
> > > >> > 4/5/12
> > > >> > One:
> > > >> > Playin >
> > > >> > Crazy Fingers
> > > >> > Black Throated
> > > >> > Brown Eyed
> > > >> > TLEO
> > > >> > Big Bad Blues (?)
> > > >> > Built to Last
> > > >> > Helena Bucket
> > > >> > Two:
> > > >> > St. Stephen >
> > > >> > Cosmic Charlie
> > > >> > Mountain Song
> > > >> > The Wheel >
> > > >> > UJB >
> > > >> > King Solomon's Marbles >
> > > >> > Black Peter >
> > > >> > NFA
> > > >> > E: Liberty
> > > >> > Peace,
> > > >> > Neil X.
> > > >> Good show, overall. John and Jeff were on fire. I did notice that Jill
> > > >> must have been on a guy's names theme for the second set(Stephen,
> > > >> Charlie, John, Solomon, Peter)
> > > >> I wonder if tonight will be full of women's names(Althea, Bertha,
> > > >> Corrina, Lucy, etc...)
> > > >God, I hope not. Corrina and Lucy in the same set would have me
> > > >looking for that shotgun that I don't own to blow my head off.
> > > >Peace,
> > > >Neil X.
> > > Which Lucy --- the Loose one or LSD? And except for the lyrics, I was
> > > one of the few Corrina fans. They did some very fine jam outros. The
> > > one from Chicago '93 was killer, as was the one they played at the MSG
> > > show in '94 with the long Scarlet>Fire.
> > I'm with you. Really, the lyrics to Corinna didn't even bother me all that much because the jam out was usually destined to be one of the highlights of the show there near the end.
> Well, in the context of the post-Jerry Dead-like bands, I've never
> heard a Corrina that I wanted to hear again. We could argue the GD
> versions, but really, I was no fan of those either. We used to call
> it "Velveeta".
> Peace,
> Neil X.
I thought that's what everybody called it. We called it that, too.
> >> >Mission accomplished. Friday's show was a total blast. Too much fun,
> >> >I had to give some back.
> >> >Furthur
> >> >Wang Center
> >> >Boston, MA 4/6/12
> >> >Set One:
> >> >Foolish Heart
> >> >Dupree's Diamond Blues
> >> >Estimated Prophet
> >> >It Must Have Been The Roses
> >> >Just A Little Light
> >> >Feel Like A Stranger >
> >> >Viola Lee Blues
> >> >Set Two:
> >> >Dear Mr. Fantasy
> >> >Jack Straw >
> >> >Mountains Of The Moon >
> >> >Mason's Children >
> >> >Dark Star >
> >> >Let It Grow >
> >> >Dark Star >
> >> >Throwing Stones >
> >> >Passenger
> >> >Morning Dew
> >> >Encore:
> >> >Box Of Rain
> >> >Foolish Heart has never been one of my favorite songs, but they nailed
> >> >this version of it. OTOH, Estimated is a song I love, and it was the
> >> >weakest song in the first set. There you go, you don't ever know.
> >> >Friday found us in good spirits, a day off of work and 2 more shows to
> >> >contemplate. And the Friday show at the Wang did not disappoint. The
> >> >songs that you might suspect weren't so good, really weren't so good
> >> >(e.g. Just a Little Light, Dear Mr. Fantasy). They should never, ever
> >> >play Dear Mr. Fantasy again. Pining for Brent, we were.
> >> >The second set was really hot throughout. DS > LIG > DS was every bit
> >> >as much fun as you might imagine it was. Bobby really does sing
> >> >better now than he did in Ratdog, perhaps he's cut back on doing some
> >> >things that were negatively affecting his performances. IDK, but he's
> >> >been remarkably sharper than previously, both last winter's tour and
> >> >this one. Nice Throwin' Stones, Let It Grow. Though Estimated wasn't
> >> >good, as I mentioned. Very subdued, this song should not be mellow.
> >> >Viola Lee is always a highlight for me, and while no one wails on it
> >> >as good as Warren did, back when he was in the Quintet and the Dead,
> >> >it is still one of my favorite songs to experience in concert. Phil's
> >> >bass is so strong on songs like this and Shakedown. That old man can
> >> >wield a bass, no doubt about it. He really can't sing, though. He
> >> >used to be really bad, got incrementally better with a lot of voice
> >> >lessons, but now he really should never sing anymore. Box of Rain was
> >> >hard to listen to. I can't imagine what he will be sounding like
> >> >after a month on tour.
> >> >So bottom line is that we had a total blast on Friday, and this night
> >> >was definitely the strongest of the 3 nights I saw. We had a lot of
> >> >fun in Connecticut, too, but that show was the weakest one of the
> >> >set. I may post a bit about that later on, but it was more about the
> >> >experience than the music, in Wallingford. The hotel we stayed in (a
> >> >Hilton) was completely jammed with Deadheads. My wife got up early
> >> >(she ALWAYS gets up early, even after a late show) and was going to
> >> >take a soak in the jacuzzi. But there were a bunch of Deadheads
> >> >filling it up, sitting there drinking Sam Adams. Clearly they had
> >> >never been to bed, despite the fact it was 8 AM.
> >> >I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
> >> >adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
> >> >No lines for bathrooms, either guys or girls, no more than 1-2 min.
> >> >wait for a drink. Full bar, good stiff pours, comfy seats.
> >> >Everything is nice about Oakdale, except for the fact it's in the
> >> >middle of no place. I love venues with hotels within walking
> >> >distance. No chance of that at Oakdale.
> >> >Peace,
> >> >Neil X.
> >> Thanks for the write-up. A friend of mine gave me similar reviews,
> >> except he absolutely the vibe at Oakdale. "Worst Furthur show ever"
> >> is what he said. The band was struggling to get anything going, the
> >> crowd was annoying, and the venue turned off the video screens in the
> >> smoking lounge during the second set (or so he said). I rather like
> >> the place.
> >> Dave's thoughts on Boston were nearly identical to yours, esp.
> >> regarding the Stephen jam.
> >> -------
> >> Estimated is a complete waste of time with Furthur, imo. They've
> >> ruined it. It's supposed to be "evil" and raunchy but it ain't that,
> >> no more.
> >Well, my comment on Oakdale was that it was the weakest show of the
> >triad that I saw, so that is not really in disagreement with what your
> >friend wrote. The venue itself is nice. I didn't hang around the
> >smoking lounge, don't know about that. But there is nothing not to
> >like about the Theater. No waiting for bathrooms, no waiting for beer
> >or cocktails, good sight lines, good sound.
> >Peace,
> >Neil X.
> Well, traffic getting in and out can be a bitch....have to arrive
> early (or just before show time sometimes works) and split before the
> encore. Security is also pretty tough on tokers. And the crowd can
> tend to be overly laid back, maybe because the general comfort level
> is so high. But yes, all things considered, a very nice
> venue....although I do still miss the old theater in the round from
> the old days. Now that was something totally different from just about
> any other venue I've been to.
I've never had any problems getting in or out. But maybe years of
attending shows and games in Foxboro and Great Woods has given me an
uncommonly high tolerance for concert traffic. The traffic at those
venues is a total clusterfuck. At this show, we arrived at the venue
at 7:15 and were parked by 7:30. Of course, there was a long line to
get in at the ticket gates, come to think of it. I missed the
beginning of Bertha because I stopped off in the mens' room. My wife
and friends didn't miss anything.
> > > > >> > > "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> > > ...
> > > > >> > > > So I'm about to bag out of work and head downtown to see the
> > > > >> > > > first of > 3 consecutive Furthur shows, 2 at Boston's Wang Center
> > > > >> > > > and one down at Oakdale Theater in Wallingford, CT.
> > > > >> > > > Peace,
> > > > >> > > > Neil X.
> > > > >> > > Oh good god!....now see here, X....I can understand
> > > > >> > > sitting around the pub talking about going to something
> > > > >> > > like this.....have a few more pints and move onto another
> > > > >> > > topic...but to actually BUY tickets...and get in the car...
> > > > >> > > and actually GO to something like this baffles me to
> > > > >> > > NO end...I have about as much interest in a Grateful Dead
> > > > >> > > cover band than I do the Ice Capades...OK...OK...
> > > > >> > > I can dig the Boston gig...ya LIVE there...but you're....
> > > > >> > > let me get this straight...you're crossing state lines to
> > > > >> > > attend this nostalgia fest?...this makes the Mann Act seem
> > > > >> > > like taking an extra curry chicken finger puff pastry from
> > > > >> > > the free sample station down at Costco...
> > > > >> > > Whats next for ya, X?... standing in line to get Rico Petrocellis
> > > > >> > > autograph at the that new hardware stores grand opening in
> > > > >> > > Dedham?...is this what it's come to, baby?
> > > > >> > > No....I shant read your cries for help from the enormo-dome
> > > > >> > > in Wallington?...Wellington?...home of such innovations as
> > > > >> > > "Greek pizza" and the nations first pay toilet at the
> > > > >> > > Ralph "Whitey" Tropiano memorial rest stop out on route 14A.
> > > > >> > > I need a drink.
> > > > >> > Yep, crossing state lines, to the Hegemony of Connecticut. On the
> > > > >> > way, we will visit a great brewpub in Hartford (City Steam Brasserie
> > > > >> > Brewpub) and an even better NY Jewish-style Deli (Rein's.) 'Twill be
> > > > >> > an enjoyable experience.
> > > > >> > As for tonight, there were some real highlights, but it was uneven.
> > > > >> > Unsurprising, I guess. They opened with Playin' into Crazy FIngers,
> > > > >> > and both of those were mesemerizing. Later on in the set, songs like
> > > > >> > Black Throated Wind and Built to Last were a bit plodding. The Hell
> > > > >> > in a Bucket closer was supercharged. Far better than most GD versions
> > > > >> > I was exposed to back in the day. High, high energy.
> > > > >> > Friends of ours sitting in the back complained that they couldn't
> > > > >> > hear, it wasn't loud enough. Hope they fix that tomorrow, as I am
> > > > >> > sitting much farther away on Fri.
> > > > >> > Set 2 had plenty of highlights. The St. Stephen opener had a 10 minute
> > > > >> > jam before the final verse that was just sick, really amazing. UJB >
> > > > >> > King Solomon's Marbles was a total hoot as well. But then, Bobby
> > > > >> > singing Black Peter was subdued and almost somnolent. Then the
> > > > >> > Shakedown closer was 15 min. of wicked fun. Really great upper of a
> > > > >> > song. After that, the NFA closer was pleasing nostalgia. The Liberty
> > > > >> > encore was suprpisingly hot. Fake Jerry really jammed out on
> > > > >> > Liberty. Sounds weird to contemplate, but there ya go.
> > > > >> > As I said, mixed bag, but the good moments were really, really fun.
> > > > >> > Furthur
> > > > >> > Wang Center
> > > > >> > Boston, MA
> > > > >> > 4/5/12
> > > > >> > One:
> > > > >> > Playin >
> > > > >> > Crazy Fingers
> > > > >> > Black Throated
> > > > >> > Brown Eyed
> > > > >> > TLEO
> > > > >> > Big Bad Blues (?)
> > > > >> > Built to Last
> > > > >> > Helena Bucket
> > > > >> > Two:
> > > > >> > St. Stephen >
> > > > >> > Cosmic Charlie
> > > > >> > Mountain Song
> > > > >> > The Wheel >
> > > > >> > UJB >
> > > > >> > King Solomon's Marbles >
> > > > >> > Black Peter >
> > > > >> > NFA
> > > > >> > E: Liberty
> > > > >> > Peace,
> > > > >> > Neil X.
> > > > >> Good show, overall. John and Jeff were on fire. I did notice that Jill
> > > > >> must have been on a guy's names theme for the second set(Stephen,
> > > > >> Charlie, John, Solomon, Peter)
> > > > >> I wonder if tonight will be full of women's names(Althea, Bertha,
> > > > >> Corrina, Lucy, etc...)
> > > > >God, I hope not. Corrina and Lucy in the same set would have me
> > > > >looking for that shotgun that I don't own to blow my head off.
> > > > >Peace,
> > > > >Neil X.
> > > > Which Lucy --- the Loose one or LSD? And except for the lyrics, I was
> > > > one of the few Corrina fans. They did some very fine jam outros. The
> > > > one from Chicago '93 was killer, as was the one they played at the MSG
> > > > show in '94 with the long Scarlet>Fire.
> > > I'm with you. Really, the lyrics to Corinna didn't even bother me all that much because the jam out was usually destined to be one of the highlights of the show there near the end.
> > Well, in the context of the post-Jerry Dead-like bands, I've never
> > heard a Corrina that I wanted to hear again. We could argue the GD
> > versions, but really, I was no fan of those either. We used to call
> > it "Velveeta".
> > Peace,
> > Neil X.
> I thought that's what everybody called it. We called it that, too.
I don't mean to be claiming creative rights to "Velveeta." Yeah, I
think a lot of people called it that. When I hear a version of it, I
mentally sing along with "Vel-veeeta" instead of "Cor-riiiina."
On Apr 9, 12:16 pm, booie <bababooie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 12:01 pm, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, I'm done with this tour.
> Peace,
> Neil X.
> .
> .
> What a shame, they are just starting to get warmed up?
> I might be peaking @ The Beacon tonite?
> Opening night in NYC?
> Monday?
> Nothing to do tonight?
> No ticket in hand, yet.
Good luck, hope you find a ticket. Monday shows are often hot.
On Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:47:39 PM UTC-4, Neil X. wrote:
> I think I understand what you're talking about, but what I wrote above
Yes, you did understand exactly what I was talking about. Sorry I didn't understand what you were talking about. And here I thought I actually knew what I was talking about, for once.
"Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Well, I'm done with this tour. But don't worry,
> Phish in June and String Cheese in July are coming right up.
> Peace,
> Neil X.
Let me tell ya a little story, Neil X...
Pull up a chair.
See, There was this kid I grew up with -- he was younger than me.
Sorta looked up to me -- you know.
We did our first Dead tours together -- worked our way
around the east coast...Syracuse...Hampton...Philly....
The music was good, we made the most of it.
During spring tour1984 -- we ran veggie burritos into
Red Rocks Amphitheater -- made a fortune -- As much as anyone, I tolerated him -- and sorta trusted him.
Later on he had an idea -- to sell cassettes of audience
recordings, shwag weed, and grilled cheese sammiches from
a van out of a rest stop on route 6A
- a stop over for Dead Heads on the way to Buffalo.
That kid's name was the Nantucket Nitwit--
This was a great kid -- a kid of vision and pathos.
And there isn't even a plaque -- or a signpost -- or a statue
of him in Pawtucket!
Someone suggested he try social media.
No one knows who gave the order -- when I heard it,
I wasn't angry;
I knew Hitch -- I knew he was head-strong, talking loud,
saying stupid things.
So when he turned up on Facebook -- I let it go.
And I said to myself, this is the business we've chosen -- I didn't ask who "Friended" him-- because it had nothing to do with business!
> Mission accomplished. Friday's show was a total blast. Too much fun,
> I had to give some back.
> Furthur
> Wang Center
> Boston, MA 4/6/12
> Set One:
> Foolish Heart
> Dupree's Diamond Blues
> Estimated Prophet
> It Must Have Been The Roses
> Just A Little Light
> Feel Like A Stranger >
> Viola Lee Blues
> Set Two:
> Dear Mr. Fantasy
> Jack Straw >
> Mountains Of The Moon >
> Mason's Children >
> Dark Star >
> Let It Grow >
> Dark Star >
> Throwing Stones >
> Passenger
> Morning Dew
> Encore:
> Box Of Rain
> Foolish Heart has never been one of my favorite songs, but they nailed
> this version of it. OTOH, Estimated is a song I love, and it was the
> weakest song in the first set. There you go, you don't ever know.
> Friday found us in good spirits, a day off of work and 2 more shows to
> contemplate. And the Friday show at the Wang did not disappoint. The
> songs that you might suspect weren't so good, really weren't so good
> (e.g. Just a Little Light, Dear Mr. Fantasy). They should never, ever
> play Dear Mr. Fantasy again. Pining for Brent, we were.
> The second set was really hot throughout. DS > LIG > DS was every bit
> as much fun as you might imagine it was. Bobby really does sing
> better now than he did in Ratdog, perhaps he's cut back on doing some
> things that were negatively affecting his performances. IDK, but he's
> been remarkably sharper than previously, both last winter's tour and
> this one. Nice Throwin' Stones, Let It Grow. Though Estimated wasn't
> good, as I mentioned. Very subdued, this song should not be mellow.
> Viola Lee is always a highlight for me, and while no one wails on it
> as good as Warren did, back when he was in the Quintet and the Dead,
> it is still one of my favorite songs to experience in concert. Phil's
> bass is so strong on songs like this and Shakedown. That old man can
> wield a bass, no doubt about it. He really can't sing, though. He
> used to be really bad, got incrementally better with a lot of voice
> lessons, but now he really should never sing anymore. Box of Rain was
> hard to listen to. I can't imagine what he will be sounding like
> after a month on tour.
> So bottom line is that we had a total blast on Friday, and this night
> was definitely the strongest of the 3 nights I saw. We had a lot of
> fun in Connecticut, too, but that show was the weakest one of the
> set. I may post a bit about that later on, but it was more about the
> experience than the music, in Wallingford. The hotel we stayed in (a
> Hilton) was completely jammed with Deadheads. My wife got up early
> (she ALWAYS gets up early, even after a late show) and was going to
> take a soak in the jacuzzi. But there were a bunch of Deadheads
> filling it up, sitting there drinking Sam Adams. Clearly they had
> never been to bed, despite the fact it was 8 AM.
> I really like the Oakdale Theater. It's one of the few venues with
> adequate amenities for the number of people they admit to the show.
> No lines for bathrooms, either guys or girls, no more than 1-2 min.
> wait for a drink. Full bar, good stiff pours, comfy seats.
> Everything is nice about Oakdale, except for the fact it's in the
> middle of no place. I love venues with hotels within walking
> distance. No chance of that at Oakdale.
> "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Well, I'm done with this tour. But don't worry,
> > Phish in June and String Cheese in July are coming right up.
> > Peace,
> > Neil X.
> Let me tell ya a little story, Neil X...
> Pull up a chair.
> See, There was this kid I grew up with --
> he was younger than me.
> Sorta looked up to me -- you know.
> We did our first Dead tours together -- worked our way
> around the east coast...Syracuse...Hampton...Philly....
> The music was good, we made the most of it.
> During spring tour1984 -- we ran veggie burritos into
> Red Rocks Amphitheater -- made a fortune --
> As much as anyone, I tolerated him -- and sorta trusted him.
> Later on he had an idea -- to sell cassettes of audience
> recordings, shwag weed, and grilled cheese sammiches from
> a van out of a rest stop on route 6A
> - a stop over for Dead Heads on the way to Buffalo.
> That kid's name was the Nantucket Nitwit--
> This was a great kid -- a kid of vision and pathos.
> And there isn't even a plaque -- or a signpost -- or a statue
> of him in Pawtucket!
> Someone suggested he try social media.
> No one knows who gave the order -- when I heard it,
> I wasn't angry;
> I knew Hitch -- I knew he was head-strong, talking loud,
> saying stupid things.
> So when he turned up on Facebook -- I let it go.
> And I said to myself, this is the business we've chosen --
> I didn't ask who "Friended" him--
> because it had nothing to do with business!
I do appreciate the back story on Hitch. Not surprising. Actually,
my mental image is considerably more lurid than this tame
description. That's actually the surprising part of the tale.
Facebook, it's so mundane. I kinda imagined better.
On Apr 9, 6:25 pm, "dr.narcolepsy" <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:47:39 PM UTC-4, Neil X. wrote:
> > I think I understand what you're talking about, but what I wrote above
> Yes, you did understand exactly what I was talking about. Sorry I didn't understand what you were talking about. And here I thought I actually knew what I was talking about, for once.
> But I'm still glad you posted your reviews.
I really like the idea of compiling the opening P&F/PLQ jams. It
would be an interesting experience, to hear those, somehow spliced
seamlessly together: a latter day Infrared Roses.
On occasion those opening jams seemed forced/unnatural, but on other
occasions they were quite compelling and really set the mood for the
upcoming several hours of creative improvisation to follow. Really
interesting idea.
>On Apr 9, 6:25 pm, "dr.narcolepsy" <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 8, 2012 7:47:39 PM UTC-4, Neil X. wrote:
>> > I think I understand what you're talking about, but what I wrote above
>> Yes, you did understand exactly what I was talking about. Sorry I didn't understand what you were talking about. And here I thought I actually knew what I was talking about, for once.
>> But I'm still glad you posted your reviews.
>I really like the idea of compiling the opening P&F/PLQ jams. It
>would be an interesting experience, to hear those, somehow spliced
>seamlessly together: a latter day Infrared Roses.
>On occasion those opening jams seemed forced/unnatural, but on other
>occasions they were quite compelling and really set the mood for the
>upcoming several hours of creative improvisation to follow. Really
>interesting idea.
>Peace,
>Neil X.
On the subject of show opening jams, it's a bit surprising that as far
as a quick bit of research reveals, there was only one time in its
history that the Dead ever opened a show, or even a set, with a pure
jam. That was the space jam that opened the 10/31/85 show at the
Carolina Coliseum. You'd think that it would have been a little more
common than that.
