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Subject: Re: Weir/Wasserman at the New Orleans Jazz Fest
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:13:04 GMT

As er...@morgan.com (Eric Vandercar) wrote:

| Allen, I think it's time to step into your time machine
Whoooops. That was last year's schedule, not updated yet.
Sorrrry, folks.

Thanks for spotting this, Eric.

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From: zm0...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu ( Jonathan Grim)
Subject: ATTN: Southern Traders, esp. B'ham AL...
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 16:55:36 GMT

I am looking for some local traders. Anyone out there in B'ham, AL? That's
where I am, and I'm looking for in person trades rather than trade by
mails... Atlanta or other southern cities are cool as well...

Thanks,

Jon

Jon Grim
University of Alabama-Birmingham
<zm0...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu>

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From: deadhead <dead...@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: Camping in Atlanta Area
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:56:00 GMT

| Can anybody recommend a campground in the Atlanta area for the
| March shows this spring? I'm more interested in a nice place to camp
| than proximity to the venue. Thanx.
|
| Happy happy tour tour :-)

Hey Now,

You might want to try Stone Mountain. Most everyone goes there.
it's $5 per night. The only problem is that it gets realy crowded, Real
quick. A few years back we tried to get into another place
and they wouldn't take Deadhead's, SM is only a 20 minutes from the Venue
and has a really great lake...

Love and Light
chris

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From: deadhead <dead...@tiac.net>
Subject: Queer DeadHeads Unite!!!!
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:01:09 GMT

Hey Now,

I have been following the other thread about "Queer DeadHeads". It seems painfully
obvious to me that there are many of us out there. I feel that there is a need to
have some type of group here on the net for us. Now, maybe not a newsgroup,
but maybe some type of newsletter that we could E-Mail out so we all can
keep in contact with each other. Please drop me a line(it will be kept private),and
put in your $.02 on what you think.

Love and Light
chris

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From: "Brooks, Rebecca" <RBr...@OS.Varian.COM>
Subject: Funny Wrong Song Titles
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:35:07 GMT

My roommate came across someone selling Dead tapes in front of the Warfield
last week. He didn't ask the price, but since the seller did not "look
like" a deadhead (whatever that means), he suspected that the tapes had been
stolen. The seller insisted that the tapes were his and that he was a
deadhead. So, my roommate asked what his favorite Dead song was. The
seller stammered, "uh...ummm.....oh, yeah, that Survive thing, you know..."
I suppose meaning Touch of Gray. My roommate and I had a good laugh over
that. I said, "Can you imagine the setlists on his J-cards?" , and we
started making up more wrong song titles:

I Will Survive
Roll Away the Dew
If I Had My Way
Teenage Wasteland

Can you think of any more good ones?
Becka

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Dead-Flames Digest #744, Volume #8 Wed, 18 Jan 95 21:12:02 EST

Contents:
Re: No Nassau dates for sp' tour?? (deadhead)
Greatful Dead MTB Poster (Arthur Sederquist)
Re: Deadbeat Traders, Part 2 (Moises00)
Branford and the dead (MIKE WILLOUR)
Dylan/Dead Studio Tapes (MIKE WILLOUR)
none (Stefani Amy Michelson)
Re: CRD REQ: "I Know You Rider" (Grateful Dead) (Al Sigman)
Re: Tix price/ dates for Atlanta ASAP, please (Thomas Augustus Kimberly)
The Muppets as representations (very little ODC) (Jeffrey P Wachs)
Re: DEAFHEADS (Peter Fraser)
Grateful Dead MTB Poster (Arthur Sederquist)
Re: Any Queer Deadheads out there? (Andrew Hertzberg)
June 4 1978 Santa Barbara (Mike Satenberg)
Re: $3 Bag - hot Chgo Band (Karl A. Hintz)
Re: What Happened to Dan Healy? (Bassmania)
Re: Hand Me Another Line (xian)
Re: new headshop on the SF Peninsula (Dario Wolfish)
UNOFFICIAL: Valentine's Day Concert by The Valentines (Steve Silberman)
Re: What's Jerry Drive???? (Rico)
Re: MIAMI MIAMI MIAMI (Todd Ellenberg)
Re: Camping in Atlanta Area (Dirk Star Deegan)
Re: Camping in Atlanta Area (Franklin Warlick)
Re: MSG tree? (Rene Colmenares)
Jerry - Interior Decorator? (Damien Palermo)
Denver Hotel saga (Randy Schechter)
Re: What's up with Eugene 95?! (los gatos)
Re: Weir/Wasserman at the New Orleans Jazz Fest (Allen J. Baum)
ATTN: Southern Traders, esp. B'ham AL... ( Jonathan Grim)
Re: Camping in Atlanta Area (deadhead)
Queer DeadHeads Unite!!!! (deadhead)
Funny Wrong Song Titles ("Brooks, Rebecca")

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From: deadhead <dead...@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: No Nassau dates for sp' tour??
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:51:49 GMT

|
|
| Hey,
|
| Is it just me.. or are the dead just skipping over the NY area on the spring
| tour?
|
| They usually hit Ny area with a few dates at Nassau Coliseum..
|
| ( even though Nassau arena sux.. i still want to see the dead!! )
|
|
| what's up??? please send direct.... Neal
|
| ,-, |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| =======
| ___|| | "Lately it occurs to me, | -----
| //_||| | what a looooong strange trip its been." | ----
| ,-----'| ~||| | | --
| |o-----|__|||--`======___________________________________======___= ~~~~~~~~
| `-(*)--===~~~~~~(*)(*)| (*)(*)| --------
| -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| | COWBOY NEAL CASSADY | "THE BUS CAME BY & I GOT ON |
| | OWNER OF P.F.T.I. & | THAT'S WHEN IT ALL BEGAN, |
| | COSMIC ENTERPRISES INC. | THERE WAS COWBOY NEAL AT THE WHEEL |
| | I00SI@CUNYVM (BITNET) OR | OF THE BUS TO NEVER EVER LAND." |
| | I0...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU | -------------> THE OTHER ONE, (GD) |
| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| Acknowledge-To: <I00SI@CUNYVM>

Hey Now,

I'm sorry you can't see the Dead in your backyard, Philly isn't that far away.
I for one am happy the Dead aren't going back to Nausau.. Now there won't be any shows I'll
have to skip:)

Love and Light
chris

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From: art...@zeus.towson.edu (Arthur Sederquist)
Subject: Greatful Dead MTB Poster
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:58:01 GMT

Limited Edition Grateful Dead Fisher Bicycle Posters For Sale for $12.95

Illustrated. Set before a "California Glow", the limited edition (and
soon to be collectors item) Gary Fisher Hoo Koo E Koo decorated with
"Dead Bone Art" is framed by "liquid rose bush" and the liquid Grateful
Dead name. At the bottom are "Dancing Uncle Sams", "Face" and "Eyes".

This poster is the creation of Prairie Prince. He also designed the art
work for the bicycle.

Gary Fisher, the Father of Mountain Bikes, goes back to 1966 with the
Dead where he met them at I.D.E.S. Hall. Gary pays homage to the
Grateful Dead with the first thing that drew them together... the 1995
Limited Edition Grateful Dead Hoo Koo E Koo.

Full size poster measures 3'-6" x 2'-4". Great Color and art work.

To get yours, call toll free, 1-800-BIKEMOBILE [1-800-245-3662]. Or reply
by e-mail.

PROMPT DELIVERY!
Satisfaction Guaranteed

--
Art Sederquist
art...@zeus.towson.edu

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From: mois...@aol.com (Moises00)
Subject: Re: Deadbeat Traders, Part 2
Date: 18 Jan 1995 14:45:14 -0500
Reply-To: mois...@aol.com (Moises00)

i JUST STARTED TRADING THIS YEAR AND I ALREADY LOST A SIX TPAE PCAKAGE
THIS YEAR.
JUST THOUGHT SOMEONE MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES
SUFFERING
LATER
ZEV

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From: MIKE.W...@f12.n236.z1.fidonet.org (MIKE WILLOUR)
Subject: Branford and the dead
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 12:29:00 -0500

VR> From: John Horzepa (via RadioMail) <jhor...@radiomail.net>
VR> Organization: Berkeley dead-flames to USENET Gateway
VR>
VR> I was listening to Howard Stern this morning on my way into work, and
VR> one of his guests was Branford Marsalis. Howard was kidding Branford
VR> about leaving the Tonight Show, and asked him why he was doing it.
VR> Branford said that the main reason was to be able to tour with his
VR> new band. So, I would seriously discount the rumors that Branford
VR> will be joining the boyz for the spring tour, at least on a full time
VR> basis.

Well, this might be a great twin bill in a few cities, if they can work
it out.

* OFFLINE 1.56 * "I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow."
..................

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From: MIKE.W...@f12.n236.z1.fidonet.org (MIKE WILLOUR)
Subject: Dylan/Dead Studio Tapes
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 12:43:00 -0500

DW> From: da...@larry.Berkeley.EDU (Dario Wolfish)
DW> Organization: University of California, Berkeley

I really appreciated the posting of studio sessions. Do you have any
documentation on the 1987 rehearsals with Dylan?

DW> 3/4/87 Studio w/Dylan Rehearsals

The reason that I ask is that I've heard this attributed to March and
April 1987, i.e. months 3 & 4, rather than 3/4/87. Also does *anybody
have information regarding any collaboration with Dylan in the 1970s?

* OFFLINE 1.56 * "I met a white man who walked a black dog."
............................................................................

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From: Stefani Amy Michelson <sama...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: none
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:19:49 GMT

unsubscribe

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From: sig...@faatcrl.faa.gov (Al Sigman)
Crossposted-To: rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature
Subject: Re: CRD REQ: "I Know You Rider" (Grateful Dead)
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:59:37 GMT

richard...@quickmail.ucsf.edu (Richard Rickman) writes:
: In article <planders.3...@mail.utexas.edu>,
: plan...@mail.utexas.edu (Preston Landers) wrote:
:
: > Could someone post the chords for "I Know You Rider?" They are not at
: > Nevada.
: >
: > Preston
:
: Sure Preston, here ya go.
:
: D C G D
: I know you rider gonna miss me when I'm gone
: D C G D
: I know you rider gonna miss me when I'm gone
: F C F C C# D
: Gonna miss your baby from rollin' in your arms
:
: <Repeat these changes for all verses>

I believe the C# in the last line should be Em.

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From: gt8...@prism.gatech.edu (Thomas Augustus Kimberly)
Subject: Re: Tix price/ dates for Atlanta ASAP, please
Date: 18 Jan 1995 15:21:30 -0500

In article <1995Jan18.1...@news.vanderbilt.edu>,
Ryan McCauley <mcca...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
|In article <zm00025.1...@news.dpo.uab.edu>, zm0...@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu ( Jonathan Grim) says:
|>
|>I want to mail order today and need the dates and tix price for atlanta.
|>Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks much...
|>
|Jon,
|
| The shows for the Omni are March 26,27,29,30 (Sun,Mon,Wed,Th), and are
|$30 a ticket. Hope this helps.
|
|ryan

Is this definate or a rumor? When should mail-order be sent for these?
What is the mail-order address and/or the Dead hot-line number?
(Or more appropriately, where can I find the FAQ?, I found pt.2 at
Berkeley but cannot find anything that goes into specifics about mail
order or the hot-line.)

thanx
-tak

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From: jwa...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey P Wachs)
Subject: The Muppets as representations (very little ODC)
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:45:34 GMT

Marysa Irvine (mir...@chat.carleton.ca) wrote:

: 4. The Muppets. Anyone ever notice how the banjo player in the band
: looks just like Jerry? Any votes on whether Jim Henson was a head?

MARYSA!!!
Right on!
I figured this one out about three years ago while watching THE GREAT
MUPPET CAPER...

I don't know if Jim Henson was into teh Dead, but he was definitely of a
hippie mentality (his cmpany is run very much in a family style, like
some other groups we may know... heh heh) and the musicians are all
cariactures of musicians.

For example, Floyd, the Bass player, is pink (get it, Pink Floyd?), and
is dressed like he belongs on the Sargeant Pepper's cover. His somewhat
stoned sounding voice only adds to the nice combo of the Floyd/Beatles
amalgam.

Next is Janice. No doubt she is a Muppet janice joplin, only without the
excesses.

Animal is of course Keith Moon. Who else had such ridiculous behavior
and such destructive tendencies.

Dr. Teeth himself looks suspiciously akin to John Mayall, the british
blues pianist.

Just my $.02. I am a devoted Muppet lover, and am hoping to work for Jim Henson Productions this
summer.

bye bye

--
"Let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme,
suggesting rhythm."
-R. Hunter

Jeffrey Wachs \ jwa...@mail.sas.upenn.edu
Box 183 \ www: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jwachs/
3910 Irving Street \ (215) 417-8295
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6007 \

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From: Peter Fraser <peter_...@macmail.lbl.gov>
Subject: Re: DEAFHEADS
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:23:18 GMT

In article <coley.3.4...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mike Coley,
col...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
|Also,
|I've learned that there is someone signing the lyrics at shows. Has
anybody
|seen this?

yeah, we saw it at the 12/9/94 show in oakland. a heavy-set woman
signing for a gallery of about 10-15 up in the seats at stage right.

coolest thing i ever saw. brought tears to my eyes.

-- Peter of Lawrence Berkeley
peter_...@macmail.lbl.gov

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From: art...@zeus.towson.edu (Arthur Sederquist)
Subject: Grateful Dead MTB Poster
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:06:45 GMT

Limited Edition Grateful Dead Fisher Bicycle Posters For Sale for $12.95

This poster is the creation of Prairie Prince. He also designed the art
work for the bicycle.

Full size poster measures 3'-6" x 2'-4". Great Color and art work.

To get yours, call toll free, 1-800-BIKEMOBILE [1-800-245-3662]. Or reply
by e-mail.

PROMPT DELIVERY!
Satisfaction Guaranteed

--
Art Sederquist
art...@zeus.towson.edu

------------------------------

From: MDD...@prodigy.com (Andrew Hertzberg)
Subject: Re: Any Queer Deadheads out there?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:14:47 GMT

I fit the bill, but have never heard of a formal group with a
newsletter. What's that about? How do I join?

Any other gay heads out there?

I'm hoping to go to the Philly shows if I ever figure out when
mail order happens.

Peace,
Andy

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From: Mike Satenberg <mi...@borland.com>
Subject: June 4 1978 Santa Barbara
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:54:06 GMT

Hi all,

I'm looking for a high quality copy of June 4, 1978.
This show is near and dear to a friend of mine and
I'd like to help him out. I've got plenty to trade
including the BCT show.

Thanks in advance.
MikeS
mi...@borland.com
msate...@wpo.borland.com

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From: squi...@ix.netcom.com (Karl A. Hintz)
Subject: Re: $3 Bag - hot Chgo Band
Date: 18 Jan 1995 22:02:13 GMT

In <D2MC0...@rci.ripco.com> lnrp...@ripco.com (Dave) writes:

when/ where they playin soon?

Thanx

Karl

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From: bass...@aol.com (Bassmania)
Subject: Re: What Happened to Dan Healy?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 15:48:54 -0500
Reply-To: bass...@aol.com (Bassmania)

This has been discussed ad nauseum but here's the gist:
Dan was booted for drug abuse, obstinate and inflexible behavior with
respect to sound decisions and generally being a butthead. Phil's tune
pretty much addresses this issue directly. Here is the song:

IF THE SHOE FITS
by Phil Lesh and Andrew Charles

Will your high hopes get you there
Goal so far and yet so near
You can't ignore the writing on the wall
Every time you rise you fall
End nowhere in sight at all
Why should you pick it up and try again

Chorus:
Give it up, 'cause you can't win
Let it go while you still can
Gave it all you had, now you're feelin' bad
So you're gone, ready to roam
You come on so strong with that same sad song
Wherever you go
Run along, take your ball and go home

Promised yet another chance
Forbidden just a single glance
So much rides on what you say and do
Discarded truths and famous myths
Tales that life deceives you with
Certain things you always thought you knew

Chorus

Helpful hands that pull you down
Smaller minds turn you around
Friends in need are never really true
Why should you put trust in this
Bridge over the dark abyss
You never learned you can't make all the rules

Chorus

Rob

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From: xi...@netcom.com (xian)
Subject: Re: Hand Me Another Line
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 21:36:32 GMT

In article <D2L1q...@rci.ripco.com>, mik...@ripco.com (Mike Stillman) says:
[discussion of pascal's wager snipped]
|
|I was thinking of Pascal's "the heart has its reasons, that reason does not
|know," which Robert Hunter modified to form a couple verses of Eyes of the
|World. But your answer gets full credit, if anyone is counting.

I ain't counting but I *am* enjoying the "wrong" answers in this game as
much as I am the right ones. They all show a great deal of cleverness and
insight.

By the way, no one ever even took a stab at my "hand me a line," so here
it is again, in paraphrase:

This song alludes to the plaintive boy of folk blues and jugband music
(performed by Hot Tuna and Doc Watson to name a few), who can't deny
his name.

--xian
--
Christian Crumlish <http://enterzone.berkeley.edu/homies/xian.html>
big ideas publishing painting writing details mang
Enterzone episode 1: <http://enterzone.berkeley.edu/enterzone.html>

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From: da...@larry.Berkeley.EDU (Dario Wolfish)
Subject: Re: new headshop on the SF Peninsula
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:31:17 GMT

Brooks, Rebecca (RBr...@OS.Varian.COM) wrote:

: For those of you in Silicon Valley who are tired of going all the way to SF
: or San Jose for smoking accessories, there is a new headshop in Redwood City
: callled "Wicked". It is on the west side of El Camino Real, near Broadway.
: In front they sell jewelry, t-shirts and trinkets, in back there are
: skateboards, and in a tiny side room they sell smoking accessories.
: I'm not affiliated with them, just a happy customer.
: Everyone else, thanks for the bandwidth.

There's also a great head shop in Livermore. The pipes and other shit
are much cheaper than other head shops I've seen in Berkeley and SF.

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From: Steve Silberman <dig...@well.sf.ca.us>
Subject: UNOFFICIAL: Valentine's Day Concert by The Valentines
Date: 18 Jan 1995 22:04:09 GMT

***SPECIAL VALENTINE'S DAY CONCERT ***

The VALENTINES, a band featuring Bob Weir and Henry Kaiser on guitars,
Vince Welnick on keyboards, Bobby Vega on bass, and Prairie Prince on drums,
will play Valentine's Day, February 14th, at the Fillmore, opening for the
Starship.

IMPORTANT: This concert has NOT yet been officially announced, but it WILL
HAPPEN. Tickets should go on sale through BASS and the Fillmore box office
soon - probably THIS WEEKEND.
(I called the Fillmore today, and the box office person was still pleading
no knowledge of the gig. If ten million NetHeads call the box office, she
will probably get mighty annoyed, so DO NOT CALL THE FILLMORE YET - wait a
couple of days.)

This will be a VERY TASTY event. There will be a full LIGHT SHOW, trippy
decor, and Henry Kaiser told me that the theme of the evening will be
"psychedelic dance-party time." Kaiser also told me to be prepared for some
SUPER-AMAZING ULTRA-UNEXPECTED BUSTOUTS at this gig (songs, NOT people.
We're talking old songs. Good ol' Grateful Dead-type songs. :-))

(What a way to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the great 2/13 & 2/14/70
run!)

See you on Valentine's Day!

(I do NOT have ANY more info about this gig, other than what I've posted, so
please DO NOT EMAIL ME with questions. Just keep reading this newsgroup,
OK? :-))

***

And another scoop: Henry Kaiser and Tom Constanten (T.C.) are playing a
BENEFIT at the Great American Music Hall in SF **this Monday, the 23rd** - a
premiere of their new jazz band, the Siamese Stepbrothers. Expect a cover
of Miles Davis' Agharta, and other cool stuff. Another great Bay Area band,
James T. Kirk, is opening.

digaman sez CHECK IT OUT!!

Peace,

Steve Silberman

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From: er...@gallant.apple.com (Rico)
Subject: Re: What's Jerry Drive????
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 19:31:25 GMT

In article <3f1jcc$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> rbre...@aol.com
(RBrennan) writes:
S'pposed to be a black BMW 835.

Weir said the fat man's got a 750il. That's the 12-cylinder
job. Bobby called it something like a "large rocket."

Hope this helps.

Rico

Cupertino, CA

25 minute Shining Star, 1/14. About 12 minutes too long.

--
(4,195,835 * 256) / (3,145,727 / 256) Correct: 87,413.3 Pentium: 87407.9
(4,195,835 * 2) / 3,145,727 Correct: 2.667641 Pentium:2.667478
(4,195,835 / 3,145,727) * 3,145,727 Correct: 4,195,835 Pentium:4,195,579

------------------------------

From: elle...@servax.fiu.edu (Todd Ellenberg)
Subject: Re: MIAMI MIAMI MIAMI
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:35:45 GMT

In article <3fjqqs$2...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, mois...@aol.com (Moises00)
wrote:

No way. Since I moved to Miami in 1982 they've only come to Florida every
two to three years except for shows in 1988 (just one) and 1989
(highlighted by an outrageous, intergalactic Dark Star).

Hit the road, Zev.

------------------------------

From: dde...@wam.umd.edu (Dirk Star Deegan)
Subject: Re: Camping in Atlanta Area
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:19:21 GMT

: Can anybody recommend a campground in the Atlanta area for the
: March shows this spring? I'm more interested in a nice place to camp
: than proximity to the venue. Thanx.

Stone mountain is the place to be. It's about a thrity minute ride to the
Omni, but not too difficult and a couple thousand people stay there. Despiite
cops driving around, the scene is real cool if you are low key and the wrist
band system works like paying a cover at a bar. I don't think they sell beer
in the general store though :-(.
It is also very beautiful. Stone mountain refers to a granite hill opposite
the campgournd on the other side of a lake. You should hear the drums echoing.

"Without love in the dream, it'll never come true......Yeah"

Dirk Deegan
1705 East West Highway #216
Silver Spring, MD 20910
(301)495-2717
dde...@wam.umd.edu

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From: gs0...@panther.Gsu.EDU (Franklin Warlick)
Subject: Re: Camping in Atlanta Area

Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:05:08 GMT

There are usually a large number of heads camping at Stone Mountain. It is
about 10-15 miles east if the venue. It is also the largest rock face
sculpture in the world. Camping is nice, and facilities are clean. Best
of all we arent hassled there.
Franklin
--
=============================================================================
You are never given a wish without also ____ _
being given the power to make it true. | __\ \_o____/_|
You may have to work for it, however <[___\_\_-----<
Richard Bach | o' gs0...@panther.gsu.edu

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From: rm...@netcom.com (Rene Colmenares)
Subject: Re: MSG tree?
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 1995 20:13:18 GMT

Aiko writes:

|What happened to the 10/13/94 tree?

Give the man a little time to put everything together!
--
Later,
Rene

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From: pal...@ltx-tr.com (Damien Palermo)
Subject: Jerry - Interior Decorator?
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:35:04 GMT

Here's an article from today's People in the News. Reprinted without
permission from Mercury News Wire Services:

"Jerry Garcia has designed a one-bedroom suite for L.A.'s 140-room
Beverly Prescott Hotel. Room 807 boasts jacquard-covered lampshades
with fish designs, desk chairs covered in the Grateful Dead musician's
exclusive "Lady With Argyle Socks" print, plus a signed, framed display
of his necktie."

Sounds like a step up from the Mars...

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From: wd5...@sgi45.wwb.noaa.gov (Randy Schechter)
Subject: Denver Hotel saga
Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:04:21 GMT

Well I've settled my claim with the Ramada in Denver (for those of you who
don't know or remember, I protested my hotel bill at the Ramada I stayed at
for the Denver shows late Nov early Dec because they treated us like dog poop
and kept us waiting outside the hotel after the show while they carefully
checked each returning guest). After some letters, many phone calls,
and some lying on the part of the Denver hotel manager I agreed to the terms
whereby we would not be charged for the first night we stayed there. This did
not make me totally happy since I had hoped they would waive the whole bill,
but after talking to the assistant to the president of the hotel it was very
apparent that this was the best I was going to do without a lot more time
and effort on my part, and even at that I'm not sure I would have gotten
what I wanted. My argument was that most of the local hotels were booked for
the shows so it would have been difficult to go elsewhere after the first
night, but this fell on deaf ears. I'm not really satisified, but ultimately
this compromise ('cause thats what it is) is going to save me much time.
If I had had some legal advice, I probably would've gone to the mat
on this one, but even in this country, just because you're right, doesn't mean
you'll win!

Randy

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From: r...@umich.edu (los gatos)
Subject: Re: What's up with Eugene 95?!
Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:24:33 GMT

In article <3evf6g$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> dqui...@aol.com writes:
| Well, Connie...
| Being an Oregonian who lives pretty close to Eugene, and gets the Eugene
| Register-Guard every morning, I think I would know a little more about
| what is going on in the area than you. The drain on social services is not
| a joke. Some people who tour LIVE on the various social services provided
| by the communities that host shows. If it wasn't for the Dead, the drain
| on these services would be less severe.
.......
Aw now, the Eugene run is easily one of our favorites and we sure as heck
make sure of our stay being low impact. Living down the street from the
UM football stadium, I sure know the meaning of crowds. We get over 102K fans
every football Saturday in the Fall, not just for one weekend. Having seen the
Ducks' stadium, I am sure Eugene's post-game crowds are nothing to shrug off
either. Is it fair to say that the drain on social services you speak of
is temporal, like the football crowd, or does the population of Eugene increase
after every time tour stops by? I'm still trying to get a feel for the scope
of this drain. Fair enough, there will be users or water fountains and rest
room facilities, much like any other stadium event. Does the drain include
those thousands of folks or merely the few who run for soup kitchens and
shelters? It is odd reading the gripes in light of what we thought was a
very postive experience lsat year, well organized parking and camping about
the stadium, a crowd well into tour as opposed to the year prior, and so on,
including what was purported to be fewer fans having entanglements with the
law. Fess up, is this drain substantially credited to grateful dead shows
or just enough to push Eugene from hosting *any* performance of that
magnitude (save for football of course)?

peace and pizza -rs

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