Most underrated band or artist of all time
Bob Lamprecht
My short intro. Been a Deadhead since high school circa '72. Musician
myself but not for a living, gotta eat and feed the kids so they become
bigger kids so I have a "real" job.
Anyway my underrated band is The Band.
Bob L
Joel Peterson
Bill
"Bob Lamprecht" <bo...@uocc.com> wrote
>
> Anyway my underrated band is The Band.
None of these qualify are "of all time" but some underrated performers/bands
are/were:
The biggest underrated performer out there today that I know of has to be
Monte Montgomery who is a killer guitarist live but can't fill up a
nightclub in the SF bay area
Electric Circus (the recently disbanded Mother Hips got all the press in the
SF bay area but of Chico bands, Electric Circus blew them away when it came
to live performances and had better songs too - if only their business sense
matched their musicianship)
(the late) Al Hirt (really beautiful fat notes with really nice melodic
lines and not a bad voice)
Freddy Hubbard (take him over Coltrane anyday)
Elgin Park - guitarist for Greyboy Allstars who probably plays the most
interesting killer guitar that I know of right now
Junior Brown
George Lammam - extremely talented violinist in this area who came one
person away from playing on the Middle Eastern orchestra for Page and
Plant's first tour in '95 (though this may not be appropriate since I've
become aware that some folks knowledgeable about that kind of music (such as
the local public radio world music dj) do know of him)
Merl Saunders - if not for Jerry, he'd be unknown for the most part and that
wouldn't be right (wishin the best for Merl - was glad to see him at the
Haight St Fair but was saddened at what the stroke did to him).
BZLRBI
steve laredo
I 'd nominate Adrian Belew. He's one of the most original & creative
electric guitarists in the history of rock & roll. All of his work--solo,
crimson. talking heads, etc., etc--is technically brilliant, and backed with
his soul & personality.
I love the guy.
peace,
SL
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Toad The Dead Vegan
I always thought they were way overrated.
My underrated pick is Graham Parker and the Rumour. At the time most of
my compadres thought they were sort of a junior varsity Elvis Costello
and the Attractions, but I love sneering and the guy sneers like crazy
on every song.
TDV
> Bob L
Junter 52
gotten the recognition they deserve. None really have.None sad huh? But it
keeps the clueless away from us. 8-)
Chris
anyone else ?
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JYOB
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brew ziggins
> i was gonna say King Crimson but im not sure they're underrated
> anyone else ?
I'd say that the '69-'74 editions are somewhere near
'properly appreciated'. The '80s quartet, arguably the
greatest live act in the history of music, is, by
definition, underrated.
The current quartet, though, is nearly criminally
underrated. The new CD, 'The Power to Believe' may be the
finest studio recording any edition of Crimson ever laid
down - strong material, confident performances, balls to
the wall production. It's certainly in the top three or
four, which is quite an achievement for a band whose roots
go back 34 years. They quietly scuttled across America this
spring, and are now stealthily laying waste to Europe.
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they keep me sleepless at night...
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lbh2 at cornell dot edu
BZLRBI
>My underrated pick is Graham Parker and the Rumour.
Heat Treatment, Howlin' Wind and Squeezing Out Sparks are great albums. As is
"Acid Bubblegum" which is ca. early 90s.
Matthew Dimond
"Toad The Dead Vegan" <Dav...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Also try "Burning Question". I love this album.
I also think "X" is an underrated band.
Toad The Dead Vegan
I also like The Up Escalator and Another Gray Area.
TDV
Toad The Dead Vegan
> Also try "Burning Question". I love this album.
Is that the one with Platinum Blonde?
> I also think "X" is an underrated band.
Oh yeah! Seen 'em at least 10 times and always stellar shows. Great
first few albums too. Punk with a beat and actual musical ability. And
of course lots of sneering........
TDV
Frndthdevl
David Bromberg
steve laredo
"brew ziggins" <ellbeea...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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>
> I'd say that the '69-'74 editions are somewhere near
> 'properly appreciated'. The '80s quartet, arguably the
> greatest live act in the history of music, is, by
> definition, underrated.
>
That 80's crimson band absolutely blew my mind when i saw them at the
orpheum in boston. Fripp & Belew together were like nothing I've ever heard,
before or since.
Still...not sure about the "greatest live act" tag. While they were just
amazingly brilliant, Fripp was basically playing compositions and the style
of the music & his guitar in particular pretty much ruled out true,
open-ended improvisiation. As far as I'm concerned, that's the secret
ingredient in all truly great live music.
Still...what a scarily talented band. Elephant talk, anybody?
SL
dave
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The Band underrated? Boy, I must be out of it. I'll third them then.
I'll go out on a limb and say Spartacus - any band with B. Meisner in it is
underrated :)
Joe
>> I also think "X" is an underrated band.
> Oh yeah! Seen 'em at least 10 times and always stellar shows. Great
> first few albums too. Punk with a beat and actual musical ability. And
> of course lots of sneering........
Ohmygawd. Here's a first...I agree with Toad.
I love X. Also, saw them in various configurations about 10 times, the
last one being just John Doe and Exene. I'll go see 'em anytime, whether
it's them solo, or as a full band. I don't really think they were
over-rated, merely misunderstood. That "punk" label probably did 'em more
harm than good. They played, in my opinion, beautiful music, with an edge.
Now, if you wanna talk about under-rated, let's talk about a band that's
my current favorite, the one I can't get enough of, the band that does for
me what only the Grateful Dead has done before. A band that plays some of
the hottest psychedelic country-rock music ever played. This band has
alumni from the New Riders of the Purple Sage, Kingfish, and the Wildwood
Boys. One member played on 3 Grateful Dead albums, and was in Jerry's
Acoustic Band, circa 1989.
We have in this band: Barry Sless on lead guitar, Mookie Siegal on
keyboard, Bill Layton on bass, Charlie Crane on drums, and the man himself
on guitar and vocals, Mister David Nelson.
Let's give a round of applause, ladies and gentleman, for the greatest
under-rated band of all time...The David Nelson Band.
The only band in the world that can play in front of 10 people, and still
rip the roof off the house. The only band in the world that charges as
little as $7, and brings you so much joy. Yes, sirree, the David Nelson
Band is the best current band on the planet.
A few months ago, 4 of us rmgd'ers met up to see DNB, and when the doors
opened, we were the only people in the place. When I saw them at the
Avalon, 2-3 months ago, there were 47 paid admissions. I've seen them at
Broadway Studios in San Francisco, a beautiful 1930s era dance hall, and
there were 15 people there.
To those who know, no explanation is necessary; to those who don't know,
you're missing out big time. DNB is the Grateful Dead of the 21st Century.
Anyone else going to see them next week in Dunsmuir and Eureka,
California? Nah; I didn't think so ;-)
Your loss.
Do yourself a favor...if you buy only one album this year, make it David
Nelson's "Visions Under The Moon" available from the www.nelsonband.com or
from the Grateful Dead Almanac. It is so hot, your hair will catch on
fire!
And, not only that...every once in a while, David Nelson actually sings
his one smash hot, Panama Red, backwards. If that ain't versatility....
Joe
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Mr Bad Example
wrote:
A few that I think are underrated:
King Crimson - 80s - present, studio and live, totally amazing. I'm
not sure that I can name any band, that are Crimson contemporaries,
that continue to produce at as high a level as these guys.
any version of The Magic Band. (June L.A. shows have been postponed,
but will be rescheduled, for Sept I think)
Frank Zappa - seems to me that he was largely known to the masses as
"that guy who does those dirty songs". I think that, during his
lifetime, he was rather underappreciated as a composer, guitarist and
social critic. I also think that outside of musician circles and his
fan-base that his bands were underrated. His bands were always
top-notch. Frank was also amazingly prolific.
A guy who hasn't achieved much fame, but is an amazing guitarist, is
Allan Holdsworth. I remember one show in Austin that was attended by
every gunslinger in town, including Eric Johnson and SRV, where
Holdsworth and I.O.U. really blew the roof off the place. Eric was
just shaking his head in amazement and Stevie was jumpin around goin
nuts. Maybe not the best composer, but a brilliant technician.
Tom Waits - perhaps not for his musical chops or his voice, but
certainly for his songwriting. Great storyteller.
John Prine, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Joe Ely, Butch Hancock, Guy Clark -
see above.
Warren Zevon - I think Warren is an amazing songwriter.....and I'm
really gonna miss him.
Frndthdevl
>From: Joe
>A few months ago, 4 of us rmgd'ers met up to see DNB, and when the doors
>opened, we were the only people in the place. When I saw them at the
>Avalon, 2-3 months ago, there were 47 paid admissions. I've seen them at
>Broadway Studios in San Francisco, a beautiful 1930s era dance hall, and
>there were 15 people there.
shit, they should just play Socal. Where the real support is.LOL At leat better
turnouts. ; )
Neil Krueger
augu...@NOaustin.SPAM.OKrr.com wrote on 6/15/03 2:47 AM:
> A few that I think are underrated:
>
> Frank Zappa
God, god, how can Zappa possibly be considered underrated? He's revered to
the point of near-deityhood by 90% of the musicians in the country.
Peace,
Neil X.
Joe
> shit, they should just play Socal. Where the real support is.LOL At leat better
> turnouts. ; )
The one time I saw David Nelson in Santa Monica (with Steve Lenier), I was
stunned to see people in the audience wearing suits and ties.
IOW, I'll take 10 Dead Heads wearing tie-dye any day, over 100 suits ;-)
Southern California is like another country/culture to me. It's a weird,
twisted place.
Frndthdevl
>The one time I saw David Nelson in Santa Monica (with Steve Lenier), I was
>stunned to see people in the audience wearing suits and ties.
What? Deadheads with jobs? Imagine that.
>I'll take 10 Dead Heads wearing tie-dye any day, over 100 suits ;-)
Eco..did you see any suits at Victor's?
which was the finest show of the recent DNB tour btw.
>
>Southern California is like another country/culture to me. It's a weird,
>twisted place.
Since when has weird and twisted been bad adjectives for deadheads? It's called
diversity.
You just don't get it Joe, California is the greatest state in the union
because it has both Nocal and Socal. It is the sum of its parts and people. Not
individually isolated communities. Shit, in the last 10 years or so, Socal has
become much more liberal while your beloved Bay Area (which is definitely one
of the jewels of Cali) is headed the other direction. Even Willie Brown has
realized that liberal policies towards the homeless is not a good thing.
And Insane Diego County does have the BEST weather in the United States.
YES!!!!, only 17 days till High Sierra MF. However there are a few terrible
quandaries. There is a new announced "Southern Songwriters Set' with JJ
grey,Papa mali and Anders Osborne,conflicting with the Flying Other Brothers.
Hmmm..Joe, or others,have you seen the Flying Other Brothers(with barry Sless
among others) And for you in the Bay Area, anybody seen the Jethro Jeremiah
band yet? And the only conflict late night I have is kimock and robert Wlaters
20th Congress the same late night. Such problems.
Peace
jeff
lm...@webtv.net
Mr Bad Example
wrote:
I agree. Precisely why I said in my post:
" I also think that outside of musician circles and his
fan-base that his bands were underrated. "
I don't think that the general public really understood just how good
FZ or his bands were. Seeing as how his music didn't get played much
on the radio and his product wasn't being distributed by a major
label, FZ didn't really get alot of exposure to the masses. While I
think that is a shame, I really admire Frank's artistic integrity and
the stance that he took in regard to the major labels.
I think that FZ is revered by a good segment of the musician
community, but I would add a further quantifier to your statement. I
would say that FZ is revered by 90% of the musicians who are over 30
years old. Any younger than that are probably more familiar with
Dweezil. After all, FZ's last tour was in about 1988, I believe....
Neil Krueger
augu...@NOaustin.SPAM.OKrr.com wrote on 6/16/03 12:22 AM:
Well, he's been dead for a decade, so the lack of interest by those under 30
is pretty understandable, no? No matter how good he was, "He's dead, Jim."
If anything, he's a better candidate for the most overhyped thread.....
Peace,
Neil X.
Joe
> Since when has weird and twisted been bad adjectives for deadheads? It's called
> diversity.
No. It's called "paving paradise and putting up a parking lot."
Garry Bryan
Garry
JC Martin
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> Frndthdevl <frndt...@aol.comdown> wrote:
>
> > Since when has weird and twisted been bad adjectives for deadheads? It's
called
> > diversity.
>
> No. It's called "paving paradise and putting up a parking lot."
Written by a woman who has spent her life living in Los Angeles. Go figure.
###
-JC
Timothy Lynch
} And Insane Diego County does have the BEST weather in the United States.
Hawaii and I had a good laugh at this notion. ;-)
Tim
tly...@socrates.berkeley.edu
JC Martin
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> frndt...@aol.comdown (Frndthdevl) wrote:
>
> } And Insane Diego County does have the BEST weather in the United States.
>
> Hawaii and I had a good laugh at this notion. ;-)
Not everyone likes tropical weather. I prefer it dry year round myself.
-JC
Tom Haber
hardly consider The Band as underrated.
My nominee: JJ Cale.
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Jperdue4
GREAT call!!...I recommend to ANYONE, the albums.."Okie" and "Naturally"..hes
got a few other greats as well but these two go together like American Beauty
and Workinmans Dead...
JonP
"That's just what i need...
a good woman to kick
my butt now and then"
Brad Greer
> Still...not sure about the "greatest live act" tag. While they were just
> amazingly brilliant, Fripp was basically playing compositions and the style
> of the music & his guitar in particular pretty much ruled out true,
> open-ended improvisiation. As far as I'm concerned, that's the secret
> ingredient in all truly great live music.
>
improvisational music can be considered truly great live music. No
doubt, great live improvisation is a magnificent thing to see and
hear, but plenty of great music is performed live with no
improvisation at all. In my younger days I played in a variety of
different musical combinations, from small combos (both rock and jazz)
to full orchestras. Obviously, the orchestral stuff was strictly
without improvisation, but I can tell you there are times when a given
orchestra would just nail it, and you could hear that it was a better
performance than some others.
What matters more than improvisation to me is passion and especially a
collective passion of the entire playing ensemble. When everyone in
an orchestra is "on" it is an unbelievably powerful thing to
experience.
DanaHawk
"Bob Lamprecht" <bo...@uocc.com> wrote in message
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> Hello rmgd.
> My short intro. Been a Deadhead since high school circa '72. Musician
> myself but not for a living, gotta eat and feed the kids so they become
> bigger kids so I have a "real" job.
> Anyway my underrated band is The Band.
>
> Bob L
>
>
I kind of the same vein as the Band, but from across the pond, I've got to
nominate Fairport Convention for most underrated. I'm talking about the
60's and 70's stuff, as I'm not that familiar with the more recent
incarnations. Like the Band, they covered obscure Dylan tunes, and did a
fine job of it. Like the Dead, they were adept at several types of popular
music; traditional British folk, Sandy Denny ballads, or Chuck Berry
rockers. They could also be some-what Dead-like in their jams. The
combination of limited touring time in the States during their heyday and
the lack of circulating live shows with good sound contributes to their
being somewhat more under the radar than they deserve.
And you can't mention Fairport without singling out Richard Thompson, who
continues to amaze. This guitarist extraordinaire/singer/songwriter defines
underrated. I've seen him twice this year in Lawrence, KS, once solo
acoustic and the second time electric with a band. It was a 6 hour drive
each way, and the January show was during a blizzard, but it was worth it.
IMO, Henry Kaiser is underrated as well.
Dana
"It's too bad, it's too bad, it's too bad it's not too good"
......Randy Crouch
Brad Greer
> David Bromberg
Certainly in the top ten all-time underratted. Glad he's finally
touring with some regularity again.
TimDonohoe
Well not the most underrated of all time, but I've been listening to a lot of
Rod Stewart cds lately and that guy can play and write songs as well as anyone.
Too bad he had those few bad years.
Julian Fowler
>
>Well not the most underrated of all time, but I've been listening to a lot of
>Rod Stewart cds lately and that guy can play and write songs as well as anyone.
/can/could/
>Too bad he had those few bad years.
Interesting concept: 1974-2003 (and counting) = "a few bad years" :-)
I'd put Rod the Mod into the "almost complete waste of considerable
talent" category, rather than under- or over-rated.
Julian
