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Sweetbac

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:57:57 PM11/8/09
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November 8th 2009
Davies Symphony Hall - San Francisco

Ornette Coleman alto saxophone, violin and trumpet
Al MacDowell electric bass
Anthony Falanga acoustic bass
Denardo Coleman drums

I'll be ALL the way down front, baby!
Nice.


gratefuljoe

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:05:10 PM11/8/09
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Cool, da Man is a Legend. Let us know how it went.

kpn...@yahoo.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:18:02 PM11/8/09
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I thoroughly enjoyed the show I saw thoroughly.

Kurt

bzl...@aaool.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:37:23 PM11/8/09
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Nice! Enjoy!

Hope it's better than the jazz legend show I saw the other night.
McCoy Tyner has seen better days. Or, he's learned the art of getting
a paycheck without doing much work.

frndthdevl

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:49:41 PM11/8/09
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nice twitter
enhanced tweets are much better imho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72SVN9sO4P4

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Sweetbac

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:40:05 AM11/9/09
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"DG" <nos...@nospam.nospammmm> scribbled in message
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> Don't you have "schwag" to sling in SF?

Things a tad slow in Boca, tiger?
ANYways...just got home from the gig.
Speechless.
Ornette and band brought the G'damn house DOWN!
Scored a 3rd row center seat today on Craigslist....
You kiddin' me!!!
There is only ONE Ornette Coleman...there was no one
before him...and no one to follow him.
50 years from now, he'll STILL be ahead of his time.
Ah...but what do you know of that...all you fools on this
chatgroup are concerned with the dude from DSO....and
Grateful Dead cover bands and your local football teams.
Thats all bubblegum shit.
I was in the prescense of a gen-u-wine heavyweight tonite.
I'll be in seclusion.


kpn...@yahoo.com

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:06:22 AM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 1:40 am, "Sweetbac" <sweetb...@scbglobal.net> wrote:
> "DG" <nos...@nospam.nospammmm> scribbled in messagenews:im4ff59i2mhpavami...@4ax.com...

I agree with Mr Kelly for what it is worth. There are a few people out
there who truly deserve the label "living legend". I call them top
shelf. Ornette is top shelf period. There are musicians and then there
are musicians.

Kurt

Joe

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:09:18 PM11/9/09
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Sweetbac <swee...@scbglobal.net> wrote:

> Ah...but what do you know of that...all you fools on this
> chatgroup are concerned with the dude from DSO....and
> Grateful Dead cover bands and your local football teams.
> Thats all bubblegum shit.

Although I'm not at all into jazz, I also saw a legend on Sunday night in
San Francisco. Exene was at Slim's, in a slimmed down acoustic band. It
wasn't anything like X or The Knitters or the Original Sinners, instead,
it was folky music. And it was most enjoyable.

And today, while reading about Exene online, I was saddened to see that
she has MS.

So, catch the Knitters or X or Exene's solo band, while you still have the
chance.

She didn't look ill, but I have a friend with MS and he did great for
years after his diagnosis. And then Bam...it was time for a wheelchair and
for being fed by others. Apparently, you can have MS for years before the
really bad things start happening, and when they do, there's no slowing it
down.

Joe

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Joe

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:56:56 PM11/9/09
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The Lord of Eltingville <tthomas@[remove_to_reply]ogre.net> wrote:

> It's different with everyone. My father's brother had it, as did his
> wife. I can't recall which got it first, but while she was mostly
> confined to a chair and had to use a walker when it was necessary to
> walk, my uncle got around fine with just a cane up until the night he
> died of a heart attack while trying to wrestle a old 10hp snowblower
> down the cellar stairs after clearing his driveway.

> My sister's having various tests being done as there's a chance she
> might have it.

I've only known one person with MS, and what I witnessed over a period of
years was a slow but steady decline, to where my friend reached the point
where he couldn't control a knife or fork, much less walk or even stand
up. I hope your sister undergoes nothing at all like what my friend did,
and I hope Exene is able to crank out the music for years to come.

It's all the more reason to see her while you still can.

And apparently, this latest mini-tour started last night in SF, so check
out www.exenecervenka.com for her tour schedule.

Joe

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Joe

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:16:31 PM11/9/09
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band beyond description <everybody's.d...@that.rag.com> wrote:

> in case you haven't already, for the historical view of Exene & Co's
> place in history, I recommend seeing the 1986 documentary "X: The
> Unheard Music."

> http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/xunheardmusic.php

Thanks for the heads-up; I haven't seen that movie about X.

Joe

Neil X

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:47:46 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 1:09 pm, Joe <j...@nospam.com> wrote:


Well, there's no guarantee that anything really bad will happen to
her. It may go down like you say, but she may be fine, with
occasional bouts of illness, for the rest of her life. My brother has
been living with MS for 25 years now. Hasn't slowed him down yet.

Peace,
Neil X.

Edwin Hurwitz

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:39:21 PM11/10/09
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In article <hd7etp$v5k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Sweetbac" <swee...@scbglobal.net> wrote:

I hope it was a great show! Did you catch the band he had with Chris
Walker and Al on basses? Amazing shit!

Edwin
--
If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your
enemies.
-Moshe Dayan

3jane.

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:43:17 PM11/10/09
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> I hope it was a great show! Did you catch the band he had with Chris
> Walker and Al on basses? Amazing shit!

I saw Ron Carter play with another bass player about 20 years ago, I
think the other guy may even have been Marcus williams.

Edwin Hurwitz

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:19:59 AM11/11/09
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In article <suhef5d75euf363mh...@4ax.com>,
bzl...@aaool.com wrote:

That's too bad. I saw him about 4 or 5 years ago and it was a stunning
show. Avery Sharpe killed it on the bass.

J.C. Martin

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:51:26 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 9:19 pm, Edwin Hurwitz <ed...@indra.com> wrote:
> In article <suhef5d75euf363mhkegk8egm4p5oti...@4ax.com>,

>
>
>
>  bzl...@aaool.com wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:57:57 -0800, "Sweetbac"
> > <sweetb...@scbglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > >November 8th 2009
> > >Davies Symphony Hall - San Francisco
>
> > >Ornette Coleman  alto saxophone, violin and trumpet
> > >Al MacDowell  electric bass
> > >Anthony Falanga acoustic bass
> > >Denardo Coleman drums
>
> > >I'll be ALL the way down front, baby!
> > >Nice.
>
> > Nice!  Enjoy!
>
> > Hope it's better than the jazz legend show I saw the other night.
> > McCoy Tyner has seen better days.  Or, he's learned the art of getting
> > a paycheck without doing much work.
>
> That's too bad. I saw him about 4 or 5 years ago and it was a stunning
> show. Avery Sharpe killed it on the bass.

Last time I saw him was with Bobby Hutcherson, Billy Higgins, and Joe
Lovano. And you want to talk about 'killin' it on the bass:' Charnett
M'Fin' Moffett. Sick! He was one of the few great modern bass
players I hadn't caught live. Stole the show.

-JC

Lfh

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:20:08 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 9:51 pm, "J.C. Martin" <avantgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Hope it's better than the jazz legend show I saw the other night.
> > > McCoy Tyner has seen better days. Or, he's learned the art of getting
> > > a paycheck without doing much work.
>
> > That's too bad. I saw him about 4 or 5 years ago and it was a stunning
> > show. Avery Sharpe killed it on the bass.
>
> Last time I saw him was with Bobby Hutcherson, Billy Higgins, and Joe
> Lovano. And you want to talk about 'killin' it on the bass:' Charnett
> M'Fin' Moffett. Sick! He was one of the few great modern bass
> players I hadn't caught live. Stole the show.

I saw McCoy about three or four years ago at Yoshi's in Oakland, a
trio with Stanley Clarke and Billy Cobham, after years and years of
missing him. Expectations were high, and damn, but they didn't
disappoint. Stanley did the most amazing upright solo I've ever seen
or heard. I had no idea *that* was possible. Freakishly impressive,
and I say that as someone who has a "meh" opinion of bass solos as a
general concept. It ain't easy displaying ungodly gymnastics and
lyrical grace in a single solo, but by golly he did just that.

McCoy's always been my favorite jazz pianist, period. Though, I've
left my jazzer years far behind me, I was once given to long stretches
of listening to nothing but. The only thing that has stayed on has
been the seminal JC quartet stuff. I just downloaded a bunch of Elvin
Jazz Machine stuff I haven't heard yet, but I look forward to it, as
the guy was a beast, and my memories of hearing some of this stuff
back in the 80's were that it was primo.

Fred

bzl...@aaool.com

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:43:13 AM11/11/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:20:08 -0800 (PST), Lfh <onetas...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I reckon I might have just caught him on a bad/lazy/drunk night. The
show was billed as McCoy with the Howard University Jazz Ensemble, but
it was more like HUJE with occasional soloist McCoy. He was onstage
for no more than 30 minutes and his hands hardly got any exercise. It
didn't help that the college kids just couldn't cut it.

Sweetbac

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:57:25 AM11/11/09
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<bzl...@aaool.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:20:08 -0800 (PST), Lfh <onetas...@yahoo.com>

> I reckon I might have just caught him on a bad/lazy/drunk night. The
> show was billed as McCoy with the Howard University Jazz Ensemble.

Oh good LAWD!
McCoy with a buncha college kids?
Whadidya expect?
You thought this legend was gonna bounce the podium and cut
freshman Booker T Wheatstraw on the tuba to shreds?
'Coy got more class than that, Bizz.
Whats next on the scedule?...Ike Quebec with the Grambling
State Jr High School marching band?
Shame on you!


J.C. Martin

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:04:49 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 7:57 am, "Sweetbac" <sweetb...@scbglobal.net> wrote:
> <bzl...@aaool.com> wrote in message
>
> news:o5clf5p1hgf0kg54l...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:20:08 -0800 (PST), Lfh <onetaste2...@yahoo.com>

> > I reckon I might have just caught him on a bad/lazy/drunk night.  The
> > show was billed as McCoy with the Howard University Jazz Ensemble.
>
> Oh good LAWD!
> McCoy with a buncha college kids?
> Whadidya expect?
> You thought this legend was gonna bounce the podium and cut
> freshman Booker T Wheatstraw on the tuba to shreds?
> 'Coy got more class than that, Bizz.
> Whats next on the scedule?...Ike Quebec with the Grambling
> State Jr High School marching band?
> Shame on you!

Dkell in da house!

Come on man, I'd pay huge money to see Ike Quebec playing from his
coffin, no matter the backing band.

-JC

Sweetbac

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:32:46 PM11/11/09
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Yo J
did you go to any of the SF jazzfest?
I only hit Ornette
Once again, this supposed "jazzfest" sucked
the big one. Who books that thing?
It's more a world music fest than a jazz fest.
I think only 1 or 2 gigs sold out in advance.
The opening night at Symphony Hall was some
kid playing a G'damn ukelele....oh...he was
the "Jimi Hendrix" of the ukelele.
I need a drink.


J.C. Martin

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:48:12 PM11/11/09
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No, I've not been able to catch much of anything lately. I badly
wanted to hit that Ornette show, but I couldn't make it work. What
tone, eh?

I've noticed that JazzFest has been declining somewhat as far as
bookings; I'm sure it has to do with the economy right now.

Still am going t have to have a drink with you one of these days.
Maybe in December?


-JC

Edwin Hurwitz

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Nov 11, 2009, 4:36:56 PM11/11/09
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In article
<08045790-f2c1-464c...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
"J.C. Martin" <avant...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've never seen him. I'd love to as I've always enjoyed his recorded
work.

Edwin Hurwitz

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Nov 11, 2009, 4:39:42 PM11/11/09
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In article
<b3440bdc-3d5a-4067...@v15g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Lfh <onetas...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Nov 10, 9:51 pm, "J.C. Martin" <avantgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hope it's better than the jazz legend show I saw the other night.
> > > > McCoy Tyner has seen better days. Or, he's learned the art of getting
> > > > a paycheck without doing much work.
> >
> > > That's too bad. I saw him about 4 or 5 years ago and it was a stunning
> > > show. Avery Sharpe killed it on the bass.
> >
> > Last time I saw him was with Bobby Hutcherson, Billy Higgins, and Joe
> > Lovano. And you want to talk about 'killin' it on the bass:' Charnett
> > M'Fin' Moffett. Sick! He was one of the few great modern bass
> > players I hadn't caught live. Stole the show.
>
> I saw McCoy about three or four years ago at Yoshi's in Oakland, a
> trio with Stanley Clarke and Billy Cobham, after years and years of
> missing him. Expectations were high, and damn, but they didn't
> disappoint. Stanley did the most amazing upright solo I've ever seen
> or heard. I had no idea *that* was possible. Freakishly impressive,
> and I say that as someone who has a "meh" opinion of bass solos as a
> general concept. It ain't easy displaying ungodly gymnastics and

I really love Stanley's upright playing. I've only seen him perform on
it once, but he's just great. His electric material is cool, but aside
from the great Alembic tone and the fact that his monstrous hands can do
amazing things with a short scale bass, I don't really dig it that much.
There is a cool video of him doing a duet with Gregory Hines. But his
upright playing is just amazing.

J.C. Martin

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:10:02 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 1:39 pm, Edwin Hurwitz <ed...@indra.com> wrote:
> In article
> <b3440bdc-3d5a-4067-93eb-d3ce8bf53...@v15g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

Yeah, I much prefer his upright playing. Used to love that song Silly
Putty on "Journey to Love" though. But fusion has never been my bag.

-JC

Lfh

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:18:19 PM11/11/09
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>


> Yeah, I much prefer his upright playing. Used to love that song Silly
> Putty on "Journey to Love" though. But fusion has never been my bag.

Heh. Hell, JC, you thought my love of prog back when was twisted. My
other love was fusion. Hell, I used to go over to Jersey all the time
to go see some Return to Forever clone. Can you imagine a fusion bar
band? Nowadays, however, I can't stomach the stuff.

Fred

Sweetbac

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:25:31 PM11/11/09
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"J.C. Martin" <avant...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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; I'm sure it has to do with the economy right now.

> Still am going t have to have a drink with you one of these days.
> Maybe in December?
> -JC

Sure thing, baby....wait...December?...
aint that the busy time up at River Rock Casino?
< Jay, I'm told, deals Keno up there>


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Sweetbac

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"band beyond description" <everybody's.d...@that.rag.com> wrote in message
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> Awesome! Jake Shimabukuro!!!!!????
> --
> Peace,
> Steve

Yeah...thats him...is this MF'er from Japan?
Must be....he has a "Hello Kitty" sticker on his "axe"
Whats WRONG with you people!


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Neil X

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:39:37 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 7:58 pm, band beyond description
<everybody's.d...@that.rag.com> wrote:
> On 2009-11-13 09:57:21 +0900, band beyond description
> <everybody's.d...@that.rag.com> said:
> > he's from Hawaii, mon...at least he's not from that annoying
> > quasi-reggae jah-waiian school of musicians...
>
> ah, gwan, go see Jake; about two microdots will do you.


Do as many people read your articles in Japan as read what you write
here on RMGD?

"My readership goes up to eleven."
--Nigel "Band Beyond Description" Tufnel

Peace,
Neil X.

Sweetbac

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:47:02 AM11/13/09
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"Neil X" <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Do as many people read your articles in Japan as read what you write
> here on RMGD?

> Peace,
> Neil X.

No...the simple answer is no.
Oh...except for that July 2006 cover story
where Steve San did that 12 page article on
"Best of the Love Hotels in Yokohama"
Seems Steve did a LOT of...um..."deep research"


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